thanks for including my work, among all these great photographers..... with such a classy presentation.

you da man!!!! thanks for your help..... I read your Bio, cool insights into the world and the life we have in it..., I like your creativity!

cheers!! and have a great evening, what's left of it!

~zoren

yes, It came in groups of separate objects...... I have done a couple more of the 3DS in Vue but they are a bit glitchy, some will work, some won't at all..... I have'nt tried to download into Poser yet. I'm getting a bit side tracked but lov'n it!. still need a very realistic 3d skull that works... hard to find?

I'm really sorry...! I didn't mean like a 3ds max obj, but just a straight 3d obj. file that can be used in Bryce, Vue, Poser etc.....I'm sorry if I gave the wrong indication.

thanks man, I mean it.....sorry for the confusion.... interestingly enough, I got a 3DS model from 3D Total ( a mech fish), into the Vue program? but could only download it in pieces.

thanks,   ~ zoren

hey Teyon, tried both of those sites....... thanks.

"daemon'  has a skeleton but same as poser no details (teeth etc.)
'mirimar' only for 3dsmax program.... ( couldn't see exactly what they had though.)

thanks again for trying to help me, I appreciate it.

3d total has great stuff but, alas no great skeleton........thanks, **CaptainJack1
**still checking greylight posso....

cheers   ~ zoren

thanks, **Teyon..... I use a Mac Os, it shouldn't make a difference if it is a simple 3ds obj. file.
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thanks  **CaptainJack1  I"ll check it out..........
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thanks for the reply, Poser skeletons have no details such as the teeth, and some bone shapes are not realistic enough( finger bones etc.) for what I need. I guess I'm looking for more realistic as opposed to stylistic.

thanks and cheers!! ~ zoren

thanks for reply, I appreciate it, but where do I find the runtime files in poser libraries? I can't seem to find them.

thanks for all of the information...I will look @ these options...

thanks for the info guys, I will avoid dynamic hair...perhaps one more question, is it possible to get poser 6 figures into the DAZ program?...

thanks for trying to help, I'm finding out that not many softwares have cought up to the G5....oh well, I may just have to wait 'til something opens up...or new ideas emerge.

hey Curtis, thanks for taking the interest to help me with this problem. You are probably on the right track, alas and unfortunately, Grouper works for the PC only and is not compatable for the MAC OS...hopefully, there must be another way, I will keep trying.

Guess I'm just posing the figures 'cause I haven't been using any of the magnet dialogue..is that the problem? I always get (unexpected error, invalid format) in bryce wether I use .obj file or .pz3 file.....with view it is intermit, mostly get (fatal error, then quits) mostly with .pz3 maybe on third or fourth try I can get an .obj file to import, but then like I say, it reverts to the default pose, except for the head.