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Quote - In poser ..IN poser you "cant" make a real prop.. you can get a free modeler and make them in that.. "WINGS" is a free modeler...
IN POSER is a no no realy ..so you might not find a tut for that..
Chris
Actually I would disagree, it is possible to make props and even scenes with a litle creativity using the primitives in poser. Granted, Poser is not designed as a modelling app and falls woefully short in this arena, but it is possible to make some basic props if your fairly clever about moving, resizing and morphing your primitives with magnets to get the desired results.
Granted, a full blown modelling app makes things a whole lot easier, but truth be told I never really did care for wings3d that much, the interface was always quite confusing too me personally. I know people who swear by it, and you can't beat the price, but I just never could quite get the hang of anything other than very simple mods to prexisting meshes in wings.
Thread: Thank You All from an old vet | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Thread: Thank You All from an old vet | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
I did a couple of quick renders just to give you an idea as to what the suit will look like when finished, this is actually the V4 version but there will be a V3 version as well, also with working front zipper and opening/closing morphs.
Thread: It had to Happen: ShareCG Revenue Sharing Cancelled. | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Quote -
Payment aside, I still consider ShareCG a reliable and easy to use host for my freebies. I won't pull my items unless I'm asked to by the owners of the site. I know some of my items are being used which is why I made them in the first place.Besides, there's still a PayPal donate button on all my stuff which generous people can still use if they like seeing my stuff and wish to motivate me to make more.
Same here, I still plan on using it as a site to host freebies, since in truth that was all that ever really interested me. If by some quirk of fate I managed to make a enough for for a soda out of the deal great, but I never really did expect to make much from there revenue sharing concept as it was because I saw all of the, well, lets be honest, crap that some of the less scrupulous folks were uploading getting tons of hits - a sure indication that their old way of doing things going to last long at all.
If your a modeller who's interest is in the revenue aspect and you spend the time to make a high quality model, it would have to be frustrating to upload your stuff to ShareCG and get tons of downloads, and then only end up with a couple of bucks a month for your trouble because some guy uploading total garbage and spamming hundreds of sites with it is generating as many if not more hits than you are.
Nope, there entire approach was to reliant on the honesty of other people, and sadly there are always those out there willing to abuse the system to make a few extra bucks, even at the expense of honest folks.
I send a couple of suggestions to ShareCG on how they could modify there revenue sharing system and make it viable, hopefully they might be able to implement a few of the changes I suggested and get it back up and running again.
But regardless Sharecg is still my choice for a freebie server, when I feel I'm ready I'll release the stuff I want to generate revenue as commercial packages, but until then they still make a great free hosting site.
Stepdad
Thread: Twi'lek modelling request | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Quote - Most Poser Twi'lek enthusiasts know, we have two choices for lekku, both from PhilC. I found a third option from Jarok, no longer available on the internet.
Anywho, been learning Cinema 4D but not having much luck with modelling new lekku and lekkuwrap.
The idea was this. Create a nicer set of lekku, then release multiple style lekku wraps over time. I know of at least 8 different lekku covering types, and I am sure there are more.
So since I can't do it myself, I am asking if there is anyone interested in modelling this. It would be a very used freebie, and could lead to other collaborations.
Let me know if anyone is interested.
Might be able to help out myself, only one small problem lol.... Don't have a clue as to what Lekku is, so I'd need some reference pictures.
Stepdad
Thread: Winter Clothing for Poser Characters | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Ok, well been looking for a new project to get started on once my current project is finished, and since winter clothing seems to be in short supply I think I'll give it a whirl, I'll keep you folks posted on what I come up with.
Stepdad
Thread: Thank You All from an old vet | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Underworld eh? Lol.. m;y daughter has a copy of that one, she loved that movie. Alrighty, let me get some captures going and get to work, I'll keep you posted on the progress.
Stepdad
Thread: Clothing Morph Utility Recommendations, Anyone? | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Quote - And, yes, you're obviously much more experienced with this sort of thing than I am. I'm just starting out, so making my morphs with anim8or, the program I made my armor set with, would just be too awkward for me, at the moment. I'd like something that would make my life much, much easier! From making the Simple Light Armor for Aiko and Hiro, I've learned that the process is already long enough. I don't think my patience can stand having to do things by hand in quite that way. (Although, come to think of it, making morphs for the clothing with MorphMaster is like a more efficient version of taking your models in a modelling program and morphing them by hand, no?) So, for now, yes. I'm looking for a nice, "1, 2, 3, let's go!" method for making my clothing morphs.
Hey, we all start somewhere. I got my start a few years back when my boss dumped a bunch of 3d software on my desk and said "One of our departments just bought a bunch of these apps and we need somebody on the helpdesk who can figure out how to use them so someone here can help them when they call in with questions".
I'm no brilliant artist or visionary, just the poor slob that got a ton of mysterious apps dumped on his desk and had to learn how to use them whether he wanted to or not. So I installed them, fired them up, read some documentation and started playing. I did what your doing now, hung out in message forums and asked questions.
A few years later and I'm solidly hooked, I've gone from simply posing and morphing to modeling and texturing my own stuff, and I enjoy it tremendously. Funny thing is our company employs about a dozen graphic artists and professional modellers and even so there are times when some of the guys will call me up and ask me to model something for them instead, because what they got back from graphic arts wasn't quite what they wanted. Talk about an ego boost.. lol..
Quote - To tell the honest truth, right now, I'm caught between MorphMaster and the Clothing MorphKit. MorphMaster is real nice, but I know it'll take me a few days to learn it. The MorphKit is nice and quick, and will allow me to learn how to use magnets on clothing, better. Sigh. I think I'll play with MorphMaster, more, before I make any real, final decisions.
Because of my own rather unique start I didn't get started using Poser until much later than most, I actually learned on higher end software first and selected Poser for home use after the fact. As a result I don't really do much with a lot of the morphing programs designed for poser, I find it much faster to just dump what I need on a jump drive, take it to work and fix what I need between calls or on my lunch break :)
Stepdad
Thread: Thank You All from an old vet | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Quote - thanks again to all... and yes, I will stay in touch with all of you...an honor.
Stepdad, thank you for your great offer. And, yes I am still using poser 4.
my favorite things to render deal with gothic themes, vamps, dark clothing... that type of thing.
Glad to see so many military guys and gals in here doing these things... makes the heart happy.Bless you all and I hope the new year brings you all you could hope for.
Pray for our brothers and sisters overseas
Seth
That should be interesting, never done any vampire or goth modeling - this sounds like it's going to be rather fun. If you have something specific on your wish list just let me know, if not I'll poke around and see what I can come up with for ideas. My only concern is texturing, it might be a bit more difficult, I don't have Poser 4 so I have no way to setup the texture files in Poser 4 format, but I guess if nothing else I can send along the jpg's and let you take it from there.
Also it would helpful to know which characters you have / use most so I can model for the correct characters. I have references for most all of them so it shouldn't be a problem.
Stepdad
Thread: Apparent Age, The Science of Facial Beauty, and "Babyfacedness" | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Quote - I'm guilty of recently making an argument about a 3D character here which was nude & 'appeared' to be underage. I personally didn't have a problem with it (it was artistic & clearly not real) but I made the issue because I thought someone might have been getting preferential treatment, but I was clearly wrong & feel stupid for it.
There's no doubt that alot of people find youthfullness more appealing when thinking of beauty. Me personally, yes I agree in some ways, but I really find beauty has no age. A favourite woman of mine is Marg Helgenberger, she's nearly 50, would people say she's not beautiful because she doesn't have that youthful look?
Agreed.. I think the worlds most beautiful women stay beautiful no matter how old they get, even without plastic surgery.
Stepdad
Thread: Apparent Age, The Science of Facial Beauty, and "Babyfacedness" | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Stepdad LOL :) Excellent! Let's be friends, instead. Sorry for interpreting you the way I did... I often have the problem, particularly when writing in English, that I can't convey emotion as precisely as I wish. I suppose I had better learn to use emoticons more often! Or I should learn English better, I suppose. That there is no objective standard for beauty, I agree. But there is considerably stronger consensus than most people think. Have a look at the statistical measures in the German researh I quoted above. People agree about who is beautiful and who is ugly - at least we mostly do! I happen to agree with you about Ms Roberts and the horse-thing giggle. Her eyes can be radiant, though! I also consider Sandra Bullock quite homely, for the same reason. I'll get back to you on the legal issues. Right now, I have to pay the bills :)
Lol.. no worries on the interpretation thing, I often have the same problem but sadly no excuse for it, English is my native language.
Stepdad
Thread: Apparent Age, The Science of Facial Beauty, and "Babyfacedness" | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Quote - Ummm. To quote the witch in 'Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves': "Something vexes thee?" :) It might be some subtlety of language that I don't fully master, since English is not my native language, but I can't see how you can construe my answer as "shooting at the messenger". I did not answer you with any vehemence, did I? If I said something terribly offensive without realizing it, I apologise!
No worries, nothing vexes me. I forget that sometimes it's difficult in any language to convey the tone of a response in written form. No, nothing you said offended. Even if it had I don't take discussions on message boards to heart, got to many other real problems to deal with :) I guess you inferred that I was upset from my response, and for that I do apologize, I was not upset nor offended. I'm afraid my tone wasn't evident from the way the response was written.
Quote - To meet some of your points: 1) I have not complained for a second that my images were removed. I understand. I respect the decision. I will not complain. In my reply to the moderator who removed my images, I wrote: "I fully respect your decision, and will refrain from posting more pictures of my Utopia character on Renderosity", and in my first post above "I fully support/respect their decision, and do not wish to discuss the moderation per se". Please, Stepdad, try to see that I wish to discuss the problem of "apparent age" from the perspective of the science of facial beauty - and particularly that "exceptional beauty" automatically seems to mean that we perceive a face as young.
Until somebody finally creates and passes a law stating that digital characters have no age for the purposes of child pornography statutes or there is a test case or two defining what is and isn't acceptable I'm afraid the only reasonable course of action that can be taken is what Renderosity is currently doing. Sadly it's much more about perception than it is about reality, there really aren't any hard fast guidelines to go by.
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- I have a blog, my own website, where I post my images. I also post them to various imageboards. If there are risks involved, I am prepared to take them myself. That's one more reason why I don't object to the moderation of my images. I'm quite fine with it! Let's look at the bigger picture. Let's not look at Renderosity, but at what would constitute "good laws" in any society. I'm from Sweden, and I shudder at the very mention of the nigh on medieval legal system of the U.S. ;) I suppose it would be interesting to bring up such issues as the possibility of "crimes without victims", but my main point was that there is a problem in that "peak CGI facial beauty" automatically means that the model will look 14 years old... How ought we deal with that. And by "we" I don't mean just people here at 'rosity. Can we disagree without becoming enemies? ;) That usually means a better discussion...
Good laws? Lol.. good luck, in any country. I have yet to see a good law on the subject of pornography, obscenity or anything else get passed anywhere. You basically have 3 options, ban it all, permit everything or try for some middle ground. But everybody's middle ground is different and it's nearly impossible to define by any objective standard. Without an objective standard there isn't any way to properly judge what is and isn't legal, it's all a crap shoot. What is offensive to me might not offend you at all, and vice versa. You just never know.
Beauty too is all in the eye of the beholder, one good example, a lot of people think Julia Roberts is a beautiful woman. I don't, in fact I think she is rather homely. No offense to Miss Roberts or any of her multitude of fans of course, but frankly I have never understood the attraction at all. But there are tons of people that disagree with me and by tickets to her movies and fawn all over her talking about how beautiful she is, and all the while everytime she laughs I just get a mental image of a Shetland Pony I used to own some years back. So really again there is no objective standard on beauty.
And as far as becoming enemies is concerned I'm afraid I'm entirely too busy to aquire any new enemies at the moment. Also if you have an interest in becoming my arch-nemesis you'll need to fill out all the required applications and talk to the HR department about it, but if I were you I'd consider carefully before applying. Not that I'm much to worry about overall, my only super power is the ability to irritate my children to no end. But the arch-nemesis job doesn't pay much, the hours suck and worst of all they don't offer any health benefits whatsoever :)
Stepdad
Thread: Apparent Age, The Science of Facial Beauty, and "Babyfacedness" | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Quote - Personally, I feel that "erring on the side of extreme caution" amounts to falling in line behind the moral majority and that it crosses that border into "moralism" and "moral panic". My three principles above, when used in conjunction as described in #3, would be cautious enough IMHO.
Then by all means feel free to setup your own website and post your Utopia character as naked as a jaybird, that is naturally your perogative.
But if I were the guy that owned Renderosity or one of the folks that work here I wouldn't like to be the one going in front of a judge facing as much as 20 years in prison on child pornography charges just because somebody saw one of those images here on Renderosity, complained to the authorities and the local prosecutor decided to do something about it.
I wouldn't want to be the one hiring a lawyer and paying him $500-$1000 an hour or more to explain to the Judge and jury that the character in question had X amount of hip morph and Y amount of morph applied to this geometry or that geometry so obviously my client should go free and not be thrown into prison for 20 years. I definately wouldn't want to be the one actually going to jail for your artistic freedom. If that makes me a member of the "moral majority" I guess I'll have to ask them to send me a membership card and a decoder ring.
That apparently is the one thing you might not have considered in all of this, if some senator, congressmen, prosecutor or parents group decides that your Utopia character posed in the nude is child pornography your not the one they are coming after with their torches and their pitchforks. It's the guys that own and operate Renderosity that they'll be gunning for, for hosting the images.
And while it isn't likely that such a thing would occur, it is more than possible. So perhaps you might want to consider that before becoming so indignant about them rejecting your image as being too questionable. If three or four moderators looked at it and it was enough to give one or two fhem pause, then don't you think that should be more than enough reason to remove it?
It has nothing to do with the "moral majority" or anyone being on a moralistic crusade of some sort. Renderosity is kind enough to host your images free of charge, and in return they reserve the right to refuse to host anything they find questionable. That's perfectly reasonable. At least one or more moderators found your image questionable. This is also quite reasonable, especially considering it's there neck on the line and not yours if someone's knickers get in a twist.
So really you have several options available to you. You could setup your own website and host your own images, allowing you to judge their age by any standard you wish. You could also do as I suggested previously and use a bit of creativity in posing your Utopia character with her clothes on and post them here. Both of these are reasonable courses of action.
However to expect the good folks here at Renderosity to put themselves at such risk hosting these images simply isn't reasonable, no matter how many mathematical formulas you can link in from some scientist in Germany.
Again, just my 2 cents worth, but then your the one that posted this and asked for opinions, so please try not shooting at the messenger :)
Stepdad
Thread: Thank You All from an old vet | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
Quote - I wanted to thank all of you who replied to my post and the gifts that many of you sent and offered. You made my christmas a real one for the first time in many years... so many beautiful hearts.
I cannot say thank you enough...
Yours, most sincerely
Seth Jeffer
Seth,
My apologies for having missed the original post, Christmas is a pretty busy time for me and I'm afraid that I just don't keep up with reading the message bases quite like I should.
I'm glad the community responded and replaced some of the items you were looking for, and I hope this was a very merry Christmas for you indeed.
However I would like to make certain you have a very happy new year as well, so I'd like to offer you something as well to make you New Year just a bit brighter.
I've dabbled quite a bit in digital modeling, and though I haven't released any packages commercially here at the community I will be doing so soon enough. I'm already working on my first commercial project which should be finished shortly, so I'd like for you to pick my second commercial project for me, and beta test it for me. You pick the subject, I'll model and texture it.
Are you still using Poser 4 by chance?
Stepdad
U.S. Army, retired
De Oppresso Liber
Thread: Apparent Age, The Science of Facial Beauty, and "Babyfacedness" | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL
How do you properly determine the "age" of a digital character? You can't. I can't, no one can really. There is no objective standard by which such a thing can be judged,
I think Justice Potter Stewart of the Supreme Court hit the nail on the head, in a concurring opinion he wrote in the case of Jacobellis v Ohio in 1964. The case involved obscenity, and the justice wrote:
"I shall not attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced with that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture invovled in this case is not that."
So really, like obscenity the "age" a digital character is entirely a perceptual thing, not something that can be mathematically determined by how round the hips are or how narrow the face is, etc...
But for a board like Renderosity I can certainly understand why the moderators would wish to err on the side of extreme caution. Renderosity is a business, after all, and the content stored here might not only negatively impact their business but could quite possibly at some point raise legal questions as well.
The law is quite unclear on these matters, and while I'm sure the are more intrepid souls out there who love to fight city hall I for one wouldn't want to risk putting my business in jeapordy and face possible criminal sanctions testing some rather murky legal waters as to how old a digital character is or isn't and when it should be considered child pornography.
So while I understand the point you wish to make considering your Utopia character, I think maybe your best bet from here on out would be to render her with all her naughty bits well covered if you want to post those renderings here at Renderosity.
But hey, I guess I'm kinda old school when it comes to stuff like this, I think it's a woman or digital female character that is clothed and posed suggestively but properly is much sexier than the vast majority of nudes I've ever seen. It's that hint of anticipation and wonder, that mystique that really does it.
Oh, and just for the record, I don't care how old Kate Moss is, I'd much prefer she just keep her clothes on in public. The thought of seeing her nude is a frightening thing, keeps flashing me back to those pictures I once saw of holocaust victims. Emaciation is not sexy, IMHO.
Just my two cents worth,
Stepdad
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Thread: Make own props | Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL