Mab > "and that it's going to be a really good program" Yeah but why sell something if it isn't? I mean those of us that bought it have paid for a closed beta. Where is that fair? 2 out of 5 "release canidates" so far have had such issues that they have either released it fixed or a second beta the same day. Now people are having trouble with texture files etc. It would have helped if things had been delivered as promised. Any idea what it means that P5 is now less expensive than P4? Hmmm.... Tom

LOL Scott, Yeah I tried to nip this one quick. Doubt it'll help. Tom

It doesn't matter what you use, or how much of what you use. The end result is all that matters :) Although if you feel it is too much postwork for yourself, then just put it in the "Mixed Medium" gallery. It's there for such things :) Tom

Well the updates are on the website, not bundled with purchase. Kinda like P4. As for the default stock, you have the P4 people and P5 people, any others I wasn't looking for them. Content paradise.. heh.. Yeah it's up www.contentparadise.com You don't need P5 to shop at Renderosity MarketPlace Pt 2. Tom

Flowers and chocalate.

Woohoo.. at least some victory ;) Thanks ASmith for your honesty. And I'll be happy to message the mods of the forum. As for the bugs being mostly dead... you're sticking with P4 huh? ;) Tom

Yup, looks that way huh? I just put yours and Ironbear's posts together. ;) Tom

Agent Smith (Or Whoever it concerns ;) ), Actually it is directly related to poser, as that "merchant" Content Paradise is part of Poser 5. Built into the software. That 'store' which is built into the software has a terms of service, which are pratically a copy of 'rosity's. Those terms of service include no direct linking to adult websites. Their link for their new partner is adult... So to recap *It didn't have anything to do with the program Poser. Content Paradise is a search feature for different stores and ran on Renderosity software. In effect a front end for renderosity at this time. Regardles of that, it is built into Poser 5. I would say that has to do with the program just as much as the thread about the 'loft', or the heads up about freestuff culling. *I haven't found, so far, any relation it bears to Curious Labs. This is pretty simple, recap point 1. The Content Paradise is Curious Labs/Renderosity. At the least Curious Labs has directly posted a link to adult related material against their own terms of service. *It has nothing to do with Renderosity. Ignoring the partnership with Curious Labs for the moment, perhaps the original post didn't have much flavor of Renderosity. Neither do a multitude of threads about people's favorite shows or other off site merchants. Agent Smith, I can understand that you aren't fully a poser person. I also appreciate a response to this. However, it has more a right there than other off topic threads. As this one actually is about the program; Content Paradise is built into Poser. My thread was an attempt merely to point out the hypocrasy of CL and their violating their own terms of service. I will be happy to message the Poser Forum mods/admins concerning this. As I had not before, if that is the action you would prefer me take. However in the mean time I would like to see these non "poser" related threads moved from the forum; according to your definition. I have only looked back 24 hours. Though I'm sure if you (Meaning Admin/Mod) would like you can find many many more. List: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=957066 (Not about Rosity, or Poser) http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=956803 (Not about Rosity, or Poser) http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=956685 (Not about Rosity, or Poser.. Unless Rosity gets a sale off this one somehow) http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=956588 (Not about Rosity, or Poser. In fact it's an off site merchant!) http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=956555 (Not about Rosity, or Poser) http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=956519 (Not about Rosity, or Poser) http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=956441 (Not about Rosity, or directly Poser) http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=956423 (Ditto) http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=956355 (Same) http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=956336 (Same, unless freebies at other sites count towards poser and other merchants do not) http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=956100 (Same, unless freebies at other sites count towards poser and other merchants do not) http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=955977 http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=955938 http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=955777 (According to the same definition that saw my thread moved) Some of those were tough calls for me, since I don't have a lot of experience on culling off the Off Topic. However, many are obviously more Off Topic than mine. Since it wasn't according to AgentSmith's own definition of it. Normally I wouldn't be so fired up. It's just as I've probably said a hundred times already... My post was more 'on topic' about Poser and CL (some rosity) than many many others. Let alone some of the extreme examples I just posted. Why move mine and not theres? The subject.. perhaps, if that's the case I'd be happy to post it under a different subject. Just let me know :) Thank you, Tom

So now we're approaching 3 hours and no response. Yet it took them like 10 minutes to move my thread to OT in the first case. I swear it's like kids with selective hearing. Nice quote there IronBear. Tom

Wonder if it's hit a high 'moron' factor yet?

No clue, however I'm not getting any of the ebots lately as to wether a thread is replied to or not. Completely unrelated I know :) still counting the minutes Tom

Minor correction, you can always right click and choose "back". But oh come on, it's a freeking window that launches IE. I'm glad it took them years to figure this one out. Aren't we all?

WOOHOO, absolutely nothing to look at in P5. Were any of us really expecting them to put the new "free" add on content there that was mentioned forever ago? Hah.. Or in the words of those more famous snicker Still, interesting that they don't let you go back and force it in the directories of their choosing. Unless prices on products in there are at least 50% off here and elsewhere, guess where my business goes/stays. If anyone actually orders anything on that 'thing' let us know if it will let you redownload your stuff too. Tom

Thanks Anton. :) Tom

Okay, I'll give you that. Thanks for the correction :)