Well its hard to tell from the pic but what you are discribing sound exactly like what i am talking about. How would you select or group the inside of a shape or garment??

Well that answers a few of my questions I wase'nt sure how the renderer saw things, that explanes a lot. So I will have to go at it a different way. I was trying to find a way to do layering of textures to allow for grater flexibility with half the number of textures. so far can't be done, thats ok perhaps soon. I like limitations it helps me set my goals ( just beyond them)

OK it was worth asking, cuz if you can texture and object on one side, and both sides it seems to me that you should beable to controle the way the texture faces, well it was a nice thought.

I was hoping to find a way to do it with out adding geometry, If anybody can think of a way to do so?? or is this the only way to do it??

Ok based on that my best guess is to acheive the effect I am after I would need to place a cylinder inside a cylinder inside a cylinder??

What i am trying to find a way to do is to have the possibility of more that one texture on an object so that if I put one texture on with a transmap, I can see the other texture behind it though the transperent parts of the texture. It work in my mind but am not sure if it would work in reality

Well I am not looking a gift horse in the mouth, but I did hope for somthing more mike ish A female derivation while it might have is uses.( If any of you have seen my gallery, you know I don'y use female figs often.) we have vicky already and if this is a way to allow folks to invest in one of the major figures and expand it to creat a male and female version, then we should see female to male vicky soon enough?? If anyone is listing out there( hint hint) more mike stuff!! if not I guess my grandma always said if you can't find, it make it ( huge learning curve but if that is what it takes.) Knit one Pearl two, and stich stich stich, and lastly "Its alive its alive!!!! {Crackl crackle}!!!!

Blood song tha tis it exactly I check it out I didn't think it was moving things I as a rule don't do that I am too lazy thanks even if this dosn't solve it. At least I am not crazy and that it is only me. I have enough trouble with the voices in my head telling me that :) it would be worse if I was hearing it in the forums TOO ;)

Thank you lady S M, I noticed very soon after I started posting my non naked stuff it recieved little attention. the ones that wanted the most feed back on it does not stop me from posting but it would be nice to hear more. Perhaps we need to fnd ways to encorage them to share their other stuff too.

While I agree with you Vicky (naked and other wise) is overdone I like to do enticing or erotic pieces, however if you look at my gallery I like to do other stuff too. that might be the place to start look at others whole gallerys?? are they just naked Vicky or do they do other stuff?? Personally I like a range, now I will admit the naked stuff gets more attention, and some time we do our art for attention. anyne that ells you other wise is unusuall. perhaps if we paid attention and commented on the non naked work, it might encorage more non naked work?? what do you think. I started posting on Render to get feed back I live in a home that has few good art critics.

I almost forgot it is the same for win 98 or 200 prof.

It say fmale warrior 2 is there a male one out there??

Yes and no, he wears contact some times anmd glases others but that is a goodway to look at it.

Thank you but witch one??

Not bad but except for the buble prop in the freestuff area, I dont know how to get the texture of suds??