Quote - hehe, well my only suggestions are:

1. Go back to Windows XP :)
   2.  Go back to Poser 7 or Poser 6 :)

Not much help! But maybe someone else will have a better solution for you.

Thats a bit extreme I think... LOL   It has to have something to do with reading files etc. Maybe the problem with absolute vs relative address issues?  IDonn0    LOL

Ok this is interesting. If I catch it fast enough and resave the file it seems to work ok???? Huh

Don

Quote - Are you getting an error message?

Nope, the screen background goes kinda whit and poof :(

Quote - you need AO.

I have some AO on the materials. I think the red is a part of the shader nodes to accomplish the Vargas look, which is correct but I would love to know how to control it for a bit different look.

Don

Thanks,   Don

Quote - Just a note on lighting with the Vargas shader: The Vargas shader is particularly sensitive to lighting and should not be used with realism lights. It was designed to pick up lighting from a single infinite light and use that information to generate what hopefully looks like a drawing or painting.

Aha ok now I know why I was having troubles using your outdoor lights.

Thanks again Bill

Don

Ok Bill I now have the two mt5 files as instructed. How do I get either of those into the Template Skin on the VSS prop? Hope this makess sense.. LOL

Don

BTW: Thats looking really good Latexluv

Ok am gonna go and play and see if I can get this to work and thanks again. Will post an image when done.

Don

Hey Bill thanks for all the great info. How exactly would I incorporate the Vagas from matmatic to VSS?

Thanks, Don

Ok my latest attempt is here: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1741478

Some post but not on the skin. I set the skin template to .75 and increased the main light to 40%. Some of the AO shadows are a bit strong I think. The left foot heel and the toes. Should I change the AO for those body parts?

Don

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edit: BTW I took the opportunity to look at your gallery and was suprised to find it empty. Post some of your PURE work for us to be amazed by please.

I mostly post at the other R website. This one has a better forum and Bagginsbill and Dr. Geep,
so that's why I come here.  But with all their arbitrary rules I long ago gave up posting any renders
here.

Thats to bad. Tell me name you post under there and which there your referring to and I'd love to look at your work. By your term restrictive you may be referring to the "otica site"?  It's certainly more restrictive here, but we need both and one site can't very well accomodate that.

Look forward to your response and taking a peek at your work :)

Don

Quote:
"Oh I do follow Dr. Geep and Bagginsbill quite avidly.  I love what Bagginsbill did with
matmatic.  In fact I created a shader group for V2 for him to go along with the one he
created for V3, and he was very pleased and appreciative of my efforts. It's not like I'm
some sort of noob that just picked up Poser yesterday. 
Look, I have no problem with people who want to use postwork to pretty up their
pictures.  You and a few others here seem to have the idea I am trying to ban using
postwork.  All I am saying is it is a bit disingenous to pass your work off as a Poser
render when the reason it looks the way it does is because of postwork.  Someone
just coming into Poser starts wondering why his/her renders never come off looking
that good and then gets the idea they have to go out and buy other programs to
bring their work up to snuff.  How about instead we show people what can be
done with Poser and Poser alone?  "

If the galleries were just about what Poser can do alone they wouldn't be very sucessful. The point is we are not here to extoll the virtues of Poser or any other app. Were her to express ourselves artistically. There also happen to be some very creative technicians (for lack of a better word) that produce stunningly realistic images as well. Additionally if you would look at the gallery closely tou'll find a number of posts that state "postwork free" or similar verbage. We have a bit of everything here and thats what makes it great.

[quote
I guess my point was when I go to a website that has a Poser gallery, I want to see
what Poser is capable of doing.  If I wanted to see what someone was capable of
doing with Photoshop, I'd go to a Photoshop gallery.   
I guess it's sort of like a favorite baseball player breaking the home run record,
and then it's found out he was using steroids.  Postwork is sort of like steroids for Poser.
Yes, the picture may look prettier with postwork, but that doesn't show me what Poser
can do.

This is absurd. This is a site for artists first and foremost. If you want to see what Poser can do by itself then goto Smith Micro for that. Your going to tell me that that images produced with any other app don't use some post work and or compositing? Based on this, nearly all images would be in the mixed medium catagory. I have seen lots of technically correct images from other apps on these galleries but Poser adds the element of the human condition and does it well.

If we want the galleries expanded to be more accurate (which I don't thing we need) then maybe we add another level to them. Lets have the ELITEIST section and the rest of us will just be the ARTISTS.

edit: BTW I took the opportunity to look at your gallery and was suprised to find it empty. Post some of your PURE work for us to be amazed by please.