seachnasaigh posted at 12:32PM Thu, 31 January 2019 - #4270983

The torch is made for P9 (or Pro2012) and anything later, and it's pretty simple. You can find several other glowy props for P9 Firefly in my ShareCG album as well as in my R'osity freestuff.

Thank you!

But it is easier to do glowy stuff in P11's Superfly

TrekkieGrrrl posted at 12:29PM Thu, 31 January 2019 - #4270955

Also, for simple things like a lamp, you can get away with simply upping the Ambient on the bulb material. Like I did here:

It doesn't actually give off much light (if you need that, put a point light where the bulb is) but it makes it look good ;)

Yeah! Low tech dear! Love it.... what I have been doing to get around my brain damage interfering with learning the "Right" way of doing things. But it is so damn much more work step-n-fetching it all the time I was hoping for something more...efficient! But thanks. If I can't i the end wrap my head around all the other great suggestions above I will go back to your idea or my own old one!

thoennes posted at 6:12PM Thu, 17 January 2019 - #4288431

Netherworks posted at 8:59AM Tue, 01 November 2016 - #4288414

Is the WM version still available, post RDNA shutting down? If so (and we don't have one yet at Renderosity), I'd like to suggest a sticky with links to essential content, be they offsite or not, in the name of community.

Here? http://www.runtimedna.com/WMV4.html

Just did this with her, after being away from the whole CGI thing for quite a bit (since Poser11 was released). No post work at all. While I can't say that I'm entirely happy with the "state of things" in poser-ville I continue to be super happy with v4wm

One of the thngs I have NEVER been able to wrap my beanie around was getting clothes to fit properly in Poser. I have purchased so darn many conforming clothing items and never able to get them to fit properly wind up leaving my figures nekid! So, how do you get clothes to fit a WM figure so nicely as your girl here?

EClark1894 posted at 6:01PM Thu, 17 January 2019 - #4290369

rokket posted at 4:31PM Fri, 18 November 2016 - #4290336

I just picked her up again. I got silly and took her out of my runtime awhile back. Don't know what possessed me to do that. My excuse was all the stuff you have to do to her before you can use her. But Dawn is the same way. Excuse gone. V4 back.

Really? What do you have to do to Dawn? I just load her, run her through EzSkin and go from there.

Noy trying to bash her here, I know a lot of Dawn users will get upset at me but I have seen too many renders where Dawn was used where the figure looks....well....like the default Dawn and therefore all the same. I have though, of late been seeing a whole new set of images where she is used that are looking good and am reassessing my lack of support for her. But then it come back to availability and cost to change over. Also, doing erotic fantasy art Dawn, out of the box and even with added stuff from other sites, just not able to look as realistic as my V4 figures do in my renders. Never could figure out why a figure is created that would not be useable for ALL users tastes and needs. so, for my needs she is still lacking. Creating her with more mesh in certain body areas would allow for content providers to add morphs and textures and body accessories for her that would be more useable to some of us. I know there is at least one such morph creator doing a whole lot of body transforming morphs for her that really make her shine.

-Timberwolf- posted at 5:24PM Thu, 17 January 2019 - #4329080

The real cr*p happening in Poser forums is, they act like in a cult. Don't post your opinion, that does not go with the crowd and you are accused to be a troll as part of the evil DAZ conspiracy. That is just crazy. Actually I think, the decay of Poser came with those V4 only users. They brought Poser down. They don't care about how well their figure is, they don't see, that V4 bends like a piece of dry wood and is therefore only useful in portraits. The V4 users mantra is: "I bought so much stuff, I won't switch." Then why should SM invest in really improving Poser? Why would they release cool figures, when that crowd is still using V4 only? SM can lean back and sell the same stuff over and over again including some free modules every new version as a tease. For the majority of the V4 people Poser 7 mostley would be enough. @ Karina: your Sasha 16 is amazing and awsome - small problem still, she is about 10 years late. A product like this released in 2008, I might have become a V4 user too. last but not least, I just can't stand all those V4s in the galleries anymore. yawn Beside some small amount of real good examples, the majority is ... well... below "expected skill level". Use more than those unbalance pregiven one shin up poses. Stop those "one eye blink tongue out" expressions. No more fairies on a mushroom, please. Light set up are a cool thing that People urgently shoul think about. Seriousley, it's a PITA to watch the e.g. DeviantArt galleries using V4. Go drop V4, it won't hurt. There are two new kids on the block to play with. Bella and Project Evolution. You can even convert your V4 stuff to PE now. Now with my comment, twolf359 and Male_M3dia don't look as much like Trolls anymore, isn't it? so yeah, I'm glad I could help. Reality check friend except for maybe Poser 4 when Zygote and RDNA folks(if I am not mistaken) were creating some of the content where as most if not ALL the SM characters included in Poser natively sucked big time. Most if the figures and other content sold at SM have sucked just as badly. I don't think they have not improved the app because everyone uses V4 but they rally don't give a damn about the app itself and the figures available for it. If they did it would be a great app/figure combo like DAZ has created.

SM has pretty much given up on Poser and Poser users and seem to just be going through the motions of supporting client base with all or any of the products they sell. Their tech support sucks their customer service sucks and their content sucks. Poser might be ok as it stands but if you can't find good content for it t too will suck which is why so many long time users have migrated to D/S. Not plugging for D/S what Daz did to long time Poser users sucks too. I invested THOUSANDS of dollars there since I started in Poser4 when they were still Zygote. I felt abandoned and even quit giving them my money after years of having them hold my wallet captive as a Plat Club user. But, as an adult who understands business I see the brilliant moves thy have made and all to protect their money making base.

wolf359 posted at 5:04PM Thu, 17 January 2019 - #4335419

it would great if Smith Micro bought V4 outright from Daz and kept on improving her

V4 can only be "improved " by completely re-creating her with more modern technology that is tied to a native application that has matching core technolog to implement the advanced features of the figure,

Honestly, if a company is the making that kind of investment why not Make their own?? instead of continuously renovating some patched up, 12 year of rig from Daz??

Figure& animation Companies Like Reallusion have began to understand what the rest of the CG world Already knew.....

You Dont Need to keep paying homage to one"special" group of people in Draper Utah ,to have good looking young white girls in your Character program . Thus Reallusion Will be shortly releasing their own stand alone high quality Figure creation&morphing program with NVDIA IRay for use in the Powerful Iclone animation pipeline as well as for exporting to other pro Applications that import FBX(including poser11)

https://www.reallusion.com/character-creator/production.html?utm_source=rc_1805&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_term=cc_main_know_more

Wolf, If I remember properly Zygote and DAZ have been creating stuff for amateur users to work in an application for amateur users, at its onset anyway. As an amateur user I don't need for all the stuff you are talking about. Mil1/2, Mil3/4 figures for poser were, originally, I think, targeted to an amateur market. Over the years, some users I have noticed hardly even utilize the dials to get different characters let alone explore functionalities you are concerned with.

I use V4/Mil4 figures to get ideas out of my head. I don't do animation or export to higher functioning apps for rendering. Too complicated for my gray matter.I don't create "art" just pictures to get those images out of my head. poser does that as it has always done. Unfortunately for me I have not head the mental capacity to learn and use the more detailed complex functions of it to get the most out of the application to my eternal frustration. But knowing my limitations and not so much the app's I keep it simple.

To answer the question of this thread I use V4 because I am VERY HEAVILY invested in the model by way of morphs, textures accessories, etc. Her learning curve has been greatly flattened and knowing where everything is on her I can set up images quickly which is important for my limited attention span. To start over with a new figure (and I have tried them all to my ever frustrated disappointment) is always daunting for me and my simple needs. V2 and V4 still remain my favorites. I got Sasha 16 and had long conversations with Karina LOOOOOONG before he released her, though i use his beautiful Karina Vagina set a lot for v4, I have not tried Sasha out. Not sure why really I see a lot of good functionality in her. Would be nice if someone created a similar WM rig fix for M4 but that is another story.

If you need the various breeds and are in a hurry the DAZ cat bundle would be a good investment. I got t when first released many years ago and they are pretty good. Use them all the time and offer different textures and breed morphs and poses.Of course the HW cat is gorgeous and if doing closeup work optimum. But lacking in breed morphs and texture variations for reasons posed above.

more on-topic....never felt Posette was attractive enough for creating renders with even if she was incapable of extreme poses. I lept for joy when Zygote announced the release of their first Unimesh figure: VICKY 1! I had de-installed Poser because Posette was so damn ugly and re-installed it on the release of V1 and eventual inclusion of the whole Millenium 1 Unimesh set.
I remember when Poser first came out (at least referring to Poser4) it was not originally planned to be a single functioning 3d render app. Digital artists were setting up stuff in it and exporting to other apps like Bryce (at the time) or RayDream Studio (which eventually became Carrara) to create final renders and them brought back into a paint program in High res to finish the artwork. I had many popular publications from then (and might still have them) showing these processes.

Zygote changed the Poser-Verse for ever then. I sometimes wish I had never gotten into this whole 3d thing the way I did but times changed and i felt (albeit reluctantly) I had to change too.

HEY DAWG

PLEASE REREAD MY NOTE. You know me from the real world and should know not only me mindless nature as well as perhaps my lexicon by now. I wrote .obj or .3ds mapped and textured. Those STILL work in Poser......do they not? As i stated i don't expect them to create for all render engines but, I am stupid on many things and getting more so as time claims me, but from what little I recall .obj and .3ds are fairly tried and true output file sources from many of not ALL 3d Apps.....aren't they? Correct me if I missed something. Though I chose to NOT bash anyone on the subject tryinfg to keep my frustration generic, yes i was referring to Stonemason (one of many) who no longer creates for Poser. If the .obj or .3ds mapped and textured files are included someone in DAZ marketing Is NOT stating that on the product pages preferring to keep it close to the cuff. Hard to believe it isn't an anti poser ploy otherwise,,,,seems to me any. But what the frell do I know!? :P Also remember that THOSE PEOPLE (as you referred to them.....for the most part).....got put on the map by POSER (AS WAS DAZ!)....at least the old guys did (not referring to younger content creators here you're right there).

I can see a frustrated war on content creation if the problem was just FIGURE work. I don't need anymore figures. For what I do I am perfectly content working with....OH MY FREAKING CHRIST......V4 and M4! Sorry! ;)So, yeah, I am content with the figures I already have but what Ineed is good props and sets to put them in. Nature backgrounds like what was offered by the top artist at DAZ and here are falling by the wayside as these artists are moving over to create content for D/S. I understand though it grieves me why content creators want to work with new better working figures for a software that works better or renders their efforts better, whatever. But why is that argument so frustrating when addressing a realistic sand dune scene at the beach for instance, or a set of realistic hay stacks or hay bales that look like the real thing instead of a round cornered brick with terribly stretched flat hay texture wrapping? Some of the great new stuff I see offered free or even for sale could just as easily be created and sold as importable .obj files or textured .3ds files which work just fine In Poser as well as D/S. Instead they create it to JUST work in D/S! Why do I care? some of the newer artists are creating some great stuff (compared to the early days of Poser4 whose content I still use because I can't find anything closely resembling a set I need), that would look great in our renders, and, working in Poser I want them/need them for my images. I am NOT a great artist...Hell I don't even call myself an artist anymore. I do NOT know how to create my own content and wish I did but I also really wish I could find a portion of my dying brain I can still automate into wrapping itself around all the difficulty in doing that. Hell I even tried to learn D/S so I could at least export stuff for use in Poser (realistically understanding I could not learn the App itself enough to create my paltry images. What I wound up with was a huge freaking headache every time I tried firing up the app an increase in blood pressure, grinding of my old teeth and an expenditure in props and models I had purchased labeled as useable in Poser with DSON Importer with the good intent of using it but never figured out how to. None are figures but sets and props! A dead investment. DSON never worked for me! EVER! in all versions of Poser it was professed to work in. TECH support at DAZ had me on-line and on the phone talking me through the steps to get it to work but NEVER DID! That was the only way I could get my money back from DAZ for purchases that went beyond their 30 day grace period for refunds. It was nice but I really would have preferred the items WORKED. I still find items in my archives that were sold with the DSON Importer option and too late to return now but wish I could find someone to at the very least convert them for me. But, of course that is forbidden so I sit on them. If they had been available as an add-0n option with the standard formats like .obj or .3ds for use in D/S it would have been great. I would have purchased the whole package disposed of the D/S content and imported the .obj files into POSER all happy and nice.

Does anyone think of doing that? HELL NO! I can see not wanting to do all the extra work of creating FIGURE/CHARACTER content for two platforms or two applications but you already have the damn .obj.... texture it and put it in the box for sale or release. Is it really so difficult to do that?

Not a particularly troublesome fault in my opinion. what really sucks is that it does not have enough follow-up stuff like breeds nd textures. At least DAZ released the MilCats and MilDogs as complete sets ready for prime time. YES....A BIG FAT YES!......Hivewire animals blow anything out there out of the water and I guess that takes longer to create and therefore release to the end user....uhhh!....US. But when it is FINALLY in our grubby, sweaty, greedy little, impatient Posing hands....as always....it will be worth the wait...if I live long enough to still appreciate it. Hey! I'm a Senior Citizen and how much time can I possibly have to wait already! ;)

Yeah the Hivewire cat is gorgeous as are ALL their animals and I have some. But until I can get the breed assortments and extra textures i am going to hold off on getting it. Depends on your intended use. If you are adding cat(s) as part of a whole bigger scene the DAZ MilCats are a good buy.m I still use the and work great. If closeup detail is going to be important get the Hivewire cat and stuff whatever is available (which may not be much yet) but it will look great as a CU.

yeah Mark that is good but not everyone is into animation. Some of us dunderheads just want a good well supported figure(s) that we can get a sheitz-load of stuff for to create our images. I need decent body morphs I can use to make a plethora of different characters using the same dumb figure....spin those dials!.....spin those dials! I usually no longer buy characters created by others unless they include a new and different texture/prop set I can really use immediately in my stupid images. I can generally spin my own dials to get what I need for an idea! That is all. Lacking in a somewhat realistic figure creation capability those other figures died for me. Dawn needs a better hip/gen set up for my needs. It is too bad Chris and Hivewire decided what he did to minimize her potential but I guess they just din not want her to wind up on Renderotica scene. So I no use....and I post very little on Renderotica scene anyway. So their loss. Vicki 4 with all her faults with ll the 3rd party morphs and fixes has been keeping me in the visual grins for some time and hope she will continue doing so.

i thanks for response. I have all the stuff I can actually use from the store here. Most of their stuff is contemporary foods stuff...at east the cooked foods. I am looking water fowl and small game for instance as it would be dressed and cooked on a spit over an open fire. The fruit and veggies and got some baskets around that work as well as ceramic bowls got some weapons though not great but serviceable but need field working stuff like sheaves of grain and the burden strapped baskets are real important. None around at all...that I can find anyway.

ALL great and good and I agree with what you say. BUT, content creators who know how to create mesh who don't use Poser or D/S also are un-careing about any of this. This discussion affects those of us the most, who DON'T know squat about creating mesh figures, who can NOT Grasp the more intricate use of those advanced functions of Poser you mentioned which as I understand but do not use, has come a long way. SO dunder-head users like me who NEED content creators for the APP I do use (albeit barely it seems) are smacked down when good old content creators abandon the app we use and move on creating a chasm for us as to where we can get newer and better stuff for use in Poser.

I see it here that more and more content creators are going the way of D/S content creation. Even Sixus told me he will never go back to creating content for Poser because he loves doing it for D/S. So much better and easier he says I like Sixus' stuff but I rarely got it. Even his free stuff never looked like it was made by the same Poser God's Hand for the same Poser universe where more realistic human and animal characters resided. I never understood it.

Lack of community support like the lack of community support for say Antonia kills all attempts at new figures. Poser does have and has always had on-board figures. None were too good compared to what was available from DAZ at each release so again, rarely or never supported they fell into disuse and obscurity. And yeah it has a lot to do with lack of good marketing but lets face it this community is a nose to butt hole herd mentality type of universe. I read the forums of so and so unable to wait for this and/or that "great New WIP" to be released. But when you look for their galleries before and after and there is no artwork there.

Also, as in my case it comes down to investment driving use. I am heavily invested in V4 and because of that investment I have been REALLY reluctant to migrate to Antonia (when she was the new thing out here) and Dawn which as I follow her growth at Hivewire by committed loyal users, looks better and better. But will I invest? Probably not. For the little work I do manage to create I need more flexibility than was worked into the mesh or that is available for her by the community content creators. So for as long as my investment continues to work for me I can look away from newest and greatest and save my hard earned chump change.

ssgbryan posted at 3:55PM Sun, 18 March 2018 - #4310506

Coleman posted at 11:55PM Sat, 22 July 2017 - #4310495

My bad folks... I didn't mean revive Poser 4 Posette. I mean instead of throwing a LITTLE bit of money into the next Poser figure... and spend the rest on Poser software addons... I'm saying spend A L L the money on a new character that completely re-revolutionizes Poser as a 3D PERSON app which it was made for in the first place.

DAZ watched all that had gone wrong with Poser 5 and started making DAZ Studio based on Poser and then adapting from its mistakes.

Poser can adapt from DAZ mistakes with its people and make a kickass Poser-native character. DAZ's mistake with it's people is it releases a new 'primary' 3d base every 2 years now. It's stuck in a wash, rinse, repeat cycle.

The original Posette lasted for a long time. Support lasted a long time. This is what I mean. Make a new character in the next Poser that drives Poser itself for years.

What is your plan for getting the vendors on board - that is more important than how well the figure bends.

What is your plan for getting the vendors to learn ANY feature that has been added to Poser since version 7.

Most vendors have made it pretty clear that they are NOT going to support any Non-DAZ figure, nor are they going to learn any post-Poser 7 feature.

OTOH, it was vendor intransigence that brought a number of new features to Poser.

Since I have Poser Pro, I can add new features to legacy figures - I don't need vendors as much as they need me.

Since I have the fitting room - I can move conforming outfits from 1 figure to another in 60 or so seconds - I don't need vendors as much as they need me.

Since I have the Cloth room - I can move dynamic clothing from 1 figure to another in 60 seconds - I don't need vendors as much as they need me.

I have the Hair Control System - so I can move hair from 1 figure to another - I don't need vendors as much as they need me.

I have Texture Transformer - so I can move skins from 1 figure to another - I don't need vendors as much as they need me.

The only thing I need a vendor for is shoes. For that, I do need vendors (or I can get serious about PhilC's Shoe Last product).

And here is the thing - converting any of these things is really, really easy.

Too many people here conflate Poser Vendor support with Poser support.