1. A few people asking for Poser support in a forum post does not equal Poser users making up the total buyers actually buying product.  It comes down to the effort to make poser files vs the return a PA gets. Obviously the return is no longer there. As I said business is business. We have no idea how many people actually want Poser/Carrara support, because Daz just yanks down any posts asking for it. I know I saw some people asking for it in the thread before Daz realised that there might be legitimate amount of people and started yanking the posts down. 

I also got a few people who didn't post PM me because they were lurking and saw my request and agreed.

We could have a million people wanting it and Daz would still say there wasn't enough support.

Perhaps a stupid question but, is it so difficult to make a Poser version ?

The work involved for building and a set of materials, yes. Keep in mind you're doing the work twice, and maybe getting less than 1/5 the return.

It really shouldn't be a big deal to at LEAST fix the OBJs so they load up in the right place WITH the textures loaded on. If making a proper Poser version is so hard, this shouldn't be a big inconvenience. 

Sorry to hear this news.

I hope her friends and family feel better soon.

No, not everyone was whining but some were. And on the subject of telling people to "F@ck off", this is a business, so keep your emotions in check. The fact that Poser users weren't spending money, resulted in ending support. No one is trying to be evil with you, so don't take it personal. 

It's kind of funny that people are saying Poser users aren't spending money when there were a number of posts asking for support in that thread and I got a few PMs from people who voiced their support (after the posts started coming down). I'm a Carrara user, but sometimes, DS files wouldn't show up in the Carrara Browser, so I started using Poser files and they show up, no problem. I know many other Carrara users who do the same.

I was grateful for the OBJs and bought Streets of London from Stonemason because they were offered. The problem is they load up in the middle of the screen untextured. There are a million props and textures that would all have to be added manually AND they would have to be manually organised and textured in the scene. So basically, it was worthless.

We need someone "derailing" threads (which really wasn't my intention) so Daz knows were alive and there are problems. Those users that wrote in DO spend money

PS There is no TOS service violation for asking someone for a product or modification to a product.

MonQuartier works fine in C7Pro

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/mon-quartier/104431/

Vieux Quartier works fine in C7Pro

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/vieux-quartier/86398/

Stonemason announced his dropping support for Poser a while back, so those posts (and there were a lot of them) were derailing his thread with requests, demands, and general whining about wanting poser support despite what was said and ask he address it yet again, which was a TOS violation and were removed. So it's probably not a good idea to go into his commercial threads asking for Poser support in the future, because that decision is final. I know it's a bitter pill to swallow after all the years of him making sets with poser support, but it has been something he's wanted to do for a while. So if you want to use his sets you can either use the obj import or the duf.

I don't consider people asking for Poser support or whatever "whining." I used to own a boutique and if a customer came in asking for something we no longer carried, I didn't accuse them of whining and throw them out of the store.

As I said earlier, I don't go over there that often anymore (for a number of good reasons) and I don't read every post and most certainly didn't see any posts where Stonemason said "Fu@k off" to Poser users. 

So please forgive me that I don't camp out over in the forums and read every single post that everyone makes.

Don't worry, I won't go over to his threads and ask for a bloody thing.

Nor will I go over to his shop and spend a penny of my "TOS violating money."

Shop Building Set 2 works in C7Pro

SF Base works in C7Pro

Power Speedway works in C7Pro

Wreckville works in C7Pro

Red Light District 2080 works in C7Pro

Thanks Steve and Doc

I'm going to look into Residential soon.

First up is Powerage's Powertown...

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/powertown/101749/

This set when loaded into Carrara immediately shuts down the software without warning or notice. I have never seen anything quite like it.

Well, I played with it for a little while.

If you want to use Powertown, do the following...

1. You cannot try to open up the complete scene, but you CAN open each item, one by one.

2. DO NOT try to open the street layout, THIS is what seems to crash Carrara.

3. Save each building as a Carrara scene file. Each building will appear in the place they are supposed to be.

4. Open the Street layout in DS or Poser.

5. Export to Collada or as an OBJ.

6. Try to import this file into Carrara.

7. The size will be smaller than it should adjust scale to 100%

8. The streets and props won't have any textures, they will be all grey.

9. You can swap out the props (street signs, traffic lights, etc,) with any of the following...[if you want textured props]

www.renderosity.commodbcsschoolblock-streets97358

www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/traffic-lights/86035/ 

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/movie-props-street-lamps/97469/

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/trafficlight-01/52427/     this one is only $3.50

https://www.daz3d.com/streets

This should get you up and running with Powerage's very cool city!

I believe it that C8.5 can load the .duf files (I don' t have it), therefore the users of Carrara are not forgotten.
What is not normal, it is to remove these posts, I don't understand the reason.
The potential buyers must be informed all the same of this change and thus upgrade their soft if they want to continue with these products.
When Carrara won't work with the Poser files, that will be the end for a lot of users.
Business is buisiness !

Dudu Duf format only works in C8.5 or newer.

Anyone still running C8 (or earlier) cannot use DUF files.

The nice thing was many vendors offered Poser files that worked like a champ in earlier versions of Carrara and Poser 9 (and earlier)

Carrara has fallen into such decrepitude that even some newer Poser contents might not work in it. Here are 2 examples of Poser contents that make Carrara crash right out:

Okmarius and PowerTown.

Uh oh, Thanks for the heads up Doc.

I already own Powertown, but I never loaded it up, since I have never had trouble with Powerage products.

Are you running C8.5 or C8 (or earlier)?

What a sad bunch of sniveling whiners you all are!

Believe it or not, DAZ doesn't owe you full backwards compatibility of all new products forever. You bitch because there's no new V4 killer on the horizon, then you bitch some more if a possible contender appears because it means you'll have to buy better stuff to go with a better figure. DAZ is apparently trying to raise the quality of 3D figures and of 3D figure artwork as a whole. Going by the quality of most promo images in their store these days, I would say they are succeeding. Poser's development has scarcely budged in decades, but you bitch that it's DAZ's fault that many of the best vendors appear to be jumping ship in their direction, and somehow this makes them the evil enemy because they are leaving you behind stuck in, what, 2005 with V4?

I think V7 looks amazing in those promo renders, she has the prettiest face I've ever seen on a stock figure and she seems to morph into quite believable expressions. I wish her a long and happy life, but if V8 improves on her one day, that's ok too. **************************************

THIS!   A thousand times THIS!

You want to stay in the past? 

Then stop whining that you're left behind by others who are not that easily pleased.

Well done, DAZ!  You ARE the men of vision!

"Hooray for the men of vision!

Who are never satisfied.

Who believe that the way to a better world,

Is to give it a better try!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7bixhF5Dfo

These kind of attitudes stifle conversation. Calling people whiners because they aren't happy about some "Great new direction" doesn't progress a conversation anywhere. There wouldn't BE any complaining if Genesis worked natively in Poser, Carrara, and wherever else V4 worked.

Have you ever wondered why so many people STILL buy stuff for V4 and the Gen4 characters?

It's because Genesis didn't and still doesn't work flawlessly in Poser or Carrara and earlier versions of DS.

Do I personally mind buying new items (wardrobe, hair, etc) for the new character? No.

I do mind not being able to buy it and have it work in my software.

Does Daz "owe" anyone backward compatibility? Maybe, maybe not.

Backwards compatibility is a smart move, owed or not. It makes a product available to many more people.

So, do I appreciate the "Men of Vision" and their effort to make a better figure, yes.

I DO very much like the promo images of V7 (and I like V6) too.

It would be nice if they had actually fixed the problems we had with Genesis 1&2 BEFORE releasing a Genesis 3.

Hmm.

Nobody has any opinion of V7?

Usually the release of a new Daz Vicky has the boards everywhere on fire.

I like her, from what I can see. Not a big improvement over V6, but I still like her.

Can't wait to see what the Asian character will look like.