My current favorite is "dumb as a box of rocks".

[[ My solution? Kill the kids....;-) ...well....at least ground them for a month or so........]] That takes one of those 3-pronged plugs, right? ;o)

One question about the latest patches from Microsoft - that "fix" this problem. How many new vulnerabilities do they install on your system?

You'd probably have much better luck creating "rocks" in Bryce and texturing them. It may take creating quite a few rocks until you get the shape you want out of the generator, but it works.

And before you can refurbish, doesn't it have to be "furbished" in the first place? And if you are not "disgruntled" - are you "gruntled"?

One of the real problems with Bryce, something that slows it way down, IMHO, is that even when your textures are jpg's, it converts them internally to .bmp format - and those files are HUGE - incredible memory hogs. You get a couple poser figures into Bryce, and if their body & head textures are big to begin with, the Bryce file size, and slowdown in processing, increase exponentially. I sure as hell hope DAZ fixes this and restructures it so Bryce can use jpg's without that darn internal conversion to .bmp.

P4 - and only as a 'prework' tool for Bryce 5. I never render any images in poser, except for 'progress' shots while developing a character. All my scene building and rendering happens in Bryce 5.

Bravo! Excellent news. Those of us who were facing the possible end of Bryce with dread thank DAZ profoundly.

Blondie9999, who sells some very good poser clothes via DAZ, has just uploaded to DAZ a late 1800's cavalry uniform with a number of different styles (different ranks), insignia, etc. for M3. I don't think it's actually on sale yet, as they are still doing the 'behind the scenes' stuff with it, but it should be available very soon. I've seen a preview - it's impressive.

I've done Saraswati (Goddess of Art), Ganesha and Shiva - the pics are in my gallery. I did them with regular poser figures, plus extra arms (made from poser figures with a tutorial I downloaded), and an Elephant head for Ganesha. Fortunately, I have a collection of prints of Hindu religious icons, and I use those as the inspiration when I'm doing my figures, so as to be sure to get all the 'attributes' correct.

[["Sir, why do you keep hitting yourself in the head with that hammer?" "Because it feels so good when I stop."]] In this case, it was "Because it feels so good when I can STOP others from expressing themselves." (thanks so much for your lovely attempt to trivialize the question, btw.) All that crap about it "being detrimental" is just that, crap. That "silence" mateo so smugly gloats about is the "silence of dissenting views being squelched" and nothing more. It's not like it was some neighborhood tavern with loud music that kept the neighbors up all nite after all. It really was more like a conversation inside a soundproof cabinet, inside a soundproof room. To hear it, you had to CHOSE to enter the soundproof room (the OT forum), then you had to CHOSE to enter the soundproof cabinet (the individual thread), and ONLY then could you tell what was being said. The gloaters went in there ranting, and when they could not get people to agree with them, they resorted to personal attacks, and when people responded in kind, they ran to the mods crying "foul". Well, the personal-attack specialists are still here, still gloating about having silenced any who dare to disagree with them. Meanwhile, the old OT regulars are quite happy and getting along marvelously with each other (even those with quite opposing views) in their new home. NO problems at all.

I've always been amazed by the virulent anti-OT voices who found it so VERY offensive that people who wanted to could get together and talk about just about anything. They've NEVER answered the question - If they hated OT so damned much, WHY the hell did they keep going there? Was it just so they could have an opportunity to be offended by something? It certainly seems so. As it is now, the bulk of the old OT regulars are quite happy, and getting along very well with each other, yakking up a storm (without the vitriol) over at digitalcheryle.com. It seems that the REAL "troublemakers" are the constant-complainers who stayed here, gloating that they have driven off so many former members.

Glad to hear you're somewhat better. All I can say is 'hang in there and don't let the bastards (generic) win!' I hope you get better soon. Do join us over at Digitalcheryle.com, your voice will be welcome there too.

[[ Perhaps we could start discussing what motivates people who thought the old OT was full of "hatemongers" to keep popping into threads about OT, resurrecting the topic, and spewing forth judgments on people vs letting things go? Or is there a lack of logic in that, too?]] I STILL am waiting for them to explain, since they hated OT and all its denizens so very VERY profoundly (as indicated by their constant stream of vitriolic coments), why did they take the trouble to go there and read parts of the discussions? What purpose did that serve? What was the point?

[[It's really strange how a couple of members appear to be hell-bent on keeping that forum dead and mischaracterizing its participants, even though they didn't participte there very much. If you don't like a forum, don't go there.]] That's something I never have figured out. If they hated OT so virulently, why the hell did they keep going in there? Was just so they'd have an excuse to be offended by something? It would be so easy just to never click on that link and pretend it wasn't there. Maybe that was TOO easy. So far several of them have gone to great lengths since the closure to malign everything about OT and to comprehensively insult everybody who frequented it as being some sort of worthless trash who shouldn't be allowed anywhere. WHY?