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SeanMartin posted at 4:14PM Thu, 25 February 2016 - #4257367
Just my 0.02...
When the site went through a re-design, I hated the new look. I mean, really, really hated it — and said so in the forums, quite pointedly. So did a lot of other folks, and eventually Rosity got the message and cleaned up the front page where it's actually a helluva lot better looking. So yes, folks, they do listen.
The Prime issue? OK, let's just think about this for a moment. Right now, at this very moment, you have almost three thousand people on this site, a massive gallery that gets filled with new stuff at an alarming rate every minute, and an equally huge store operation. All of this requires some pretty expensive hardware that actually keeps going up in price if you want to stay on top of things... not to mention the no-doubt increased costs in net security to keep this place as virus free as possible. I'm sorry, how do you propose Rosity pay for all this? They're not going to charge a membership fee, so what are your proposals?
The virus issue... someone up in the thread wrote "We are on the internet a lot and should know how to protect ourselves" — well, see, the operative word is "should". A lot of people dont. Now imagine the uproar if someone puts in a link that goes to a site that has malware on it. You think folks arent going to blame Rosity for that? Dream on, folks. Of course they are: "You should have told us! You should have known!" That's happened before, so can you really blame them for wanting to err on the side of caution?
Maybe I"m missing a few things here, but I seriously feel the outrage here is somewhat misguided.
The site design visually is ok for me...took getting used to the bigger thumbs, but everybody's going bigger, so whatever, I got used to it. However, it's extremely slooow to load. I have the updated version of Firefox for my browser. Every other site I go to loads quickly. Renderosity is the only one that takes forever to load. I do not like waiting minutes upon minutes just to look over what's new or for a product page to load. Sometimes, I just don't have the patience and I close Rendo altogether. That equates to lost sales for them. Whatever is making the site run so slowly, they need to fix.
The internet has been around for a long time. My kids know about viruses and how to stay protected. It's up to the individual to protect themselves from viruses. Of course the site should protect itself from malware and hacks...but to get rid of outside links entirely is a bit too much.
And Prime is a disaster. Instead of leaving the legacy products at $3.50, almost everything jumped up in price. Some vendors pulled their products from Prime completely with no warning. I had a few DM Prime products in my wishlist to get whenever. Yeah, I now won't be getting them anytime soon...not at full price, not when they were created for Prime. There are rarely any good coupons anymore for Prime. The money it costs to keep a Prime membership is no longer worth having it. Not to mention Rendo throwing the vendors under the bus when confronted about the sudden product price increases when it was Rendo who caused the uproar. Yeah, they may be hurting for money, but shredding Prime, and AFTER many people already upgraded too, was one of the worst ideas this store has had.
I feel these concerns that are being voiced are justified. Obviously people aren't spending the money here, as Rendo is in panic mode. But instead of working WITH the community to figure out a better path for everyone, they are working against us at every turn.
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LadyElf posted at 1:58PM Mon, 22 February 2016 - #4256725
IceEmpress posted at 5:39PM Sun, 21 February 2016 - #4256592
I don't think it's _ just_ the off site linking that has us in an uproar. As I mentioned in a previous thread, it's the total compilation of the mess over the last year or so. This was just the icing on the cake. The straw that broke the camel's back.
--Prime neutering being the worst decision I have ever seen Rendo make. They refuse to listen to the resounding complaints from BOTH customers AND vendors about it, and actually had the audacity to blame the vendors for raising their prime prices due to no longer getting 100% royalties from Prime product sales. --Implementation of Markdown language, a super-crappy programming language, for forums
Agree totally... 100%.
~Wolfie~
Add my agree totally...100%.
The Prime 'neutering' (good word for it) was for me the real kicker. I've been around way, way long time and I've seen some doozie mistakes, but this one IS by far the worst. Not only the worst idea, but the way it was handled was atrocious. As has been said already, it needs to be totally restored to the way it was. I know of a lot of vendors that started losing hundreds of dollars a month because of this. Some have moved on, some have had to raise their prices to make up for it to the point that it's just another normally priced item and of no benefit to those that have paid subscriptions. Lack of month long coupons, the benefit of a product a month being delayed and even blaming that on the vendors because "we can't find anyone that wants to contribute a free product". Of course you can't, Rendo should be hiring the vendors and paying them for the product, especially now since they are receiving a cut of the profits.
So, Hope, it's not really about you, or about Jen, or about Kristi all of you who have to take the hits for the decisions because you are on the front lines. It's about the policies and the procedures that have been done that are of no benefit to the membership, and in fact in the case of Prime were actually deceitful.
The 'so you won't get a virus' doesn't fly either. We are on the internet a LOT not just here and should already be protecting ourselves. Put security measures in by all means, but don't think that we don't already have our own as well. The security measures WE worry about are the protection of our files, our identities and our credit/debit cards and paypal accounts.
The banning and silencing of a well respected vendor, after she voiced her opinion ( as was told would be welcomed) because of 'personal attacks' that only staff seemed to see certainly was the other straw that broke the camel's back.
I just don't understand this place anymore. I've been here (yes I'll say it again until you listen and show some respect for it) since before there was a store, when it was an artistic community only. It's like seeing someone bulldoze the house you grew up in and not giving a damn about the aftermath it causes.
And I agree to all above. Prime being "neutered" was what did it for me as well. I checked my account...last time I earned Render Rewards was last June...BEFORE the new Prime rolled out. Since then, I have really curbed my spending because there just aren't any good deals anymore. The coupons are poor, the products (save for a few top vendors, one whom you banned for no reason other than speaking her mind) have gotten shoddy, and the rules are turning draconian. This is not a beloved community any more. No amount of "well, we're only doing this for your own good" and cheer-leading without really listening to and working with what the community wants will bring back the old Renderosity that so many of us loved. The exodus will continue.
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Wow. Just have to say that if the Prime catastrophe and lately allotment of Gen3 content over any other figure didn't already push me away from purchasing from Renderosity, then this (banning a vendor for speaking her mind, and not one personal attack have I seen, and I have seen Shawn's posts) definitely would. Renderosity has been going downhill for a while. I used to buy so much here, getting the Render Rewards many times over the course of a year. Now, I only visit the site to upload to my gallery. And then I'll browse the store for a few minutes...only to find mostly G3 content that I cannot use (being a Poser-only user) and a lot of poor quality "other stuff".
Since the changes, Prime is a joke. I used to put back $12-$16 a month just to get a few Prime items off my wishlist. Back when all Prime products were $3.99. Now, I don't bother. I don't consider anything above $5 a "Prime" product, so don't bother spending the money, unless it's a quality product by a well-known vendor whom I follow. I kept my membership to see if Prime was ever going to return to it's glory days. So far, it hasn't. If it doesn't change back to what it was before by the time my membership expires, I won't be renewing. It's now become a waste of my money.
On top of all the bad changes Renderosity just keeps implementing is this one...no offsite links for fear their precious community might get a virus (as if we're all noobs on the internet and have no idea that a link, ANY link, can potentially be harmful)...and of course, for fear of losing a few bucks to another company. Well, when you have people already not spending because of the content that's available (or not available, as the case may be), and a mass exodus because the head honchos cannot figure out why their site is sinking and just keep implementing bad idea after bad idea, losing a few bucks to competition should be the least of worries.
And THEN, to ban a respected vendor because she spoke up about what is certainly NOT working to keep this site afloat...shakes head. Where is the Renderosity I loved back in the day? Sadly, it's all but sunk into the depths. And if the managers/admins cannot see this ship has pretty much sunk and start listening to the community they pledged to, there's no saving it.
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