June 2018 Prime Members Newsletter with a coupon link that I don't have access to.

Yeah, this is very annoying during sales.

With DIM, there are special files that must be in the zip. I don't want to convert the zips to DIM installable zips. I just want to install them.

Ok, so looks like I'll start writing an app that does this. Let's get some requirements. Ability to specify more than one content folder is a must. So for each content folder, you'll create a zip store folder. You dump your zips in the respective folder and run the app and it'll put the files in the proper content folder.

Next, I need a list of folders to look for in the zip that will be copied to the content folder since each zip has a different nesting level (ex Content)

By default, these will be copied (user can configure this): runtime, data, people, presets, shader presets, environments

Ignore folders: documentation

Any unrecognized folders will prompt the user whether to copy to content folder or ignore.

Will need conflict resolution options when overwriting files.

A list of what's been installed and ability to uninstall (and restore any overwritten files). Log file.

I think that should be a good start. If you have ideas or features you want to see, let me know.

I'm a programmer who's actually done encryption. This sounds shady as all hell.

It was eventually resolved, but through great pains. I do appreciate the staff helping in resolving it eventually. But it's trouble that shouldn't have existed.

I get the feeling there's no one who works here. I sent two emails. Nothing.

Day 2 and still hasn't gone through. Says that if I don't pay it, my order will be deleted. I paid it yesterday right away.

my orders are very slow atm. Still waiting. And definitely not my first purchase.

Either way, no point in posting free stuff here with the restrictive policy.

You can read up on it in this thread. Basically, there's no offsite linking at all. They also had a requirement to be exclusive to Rendo. I can't find that clause anymore. Maybe I was mistaken. But still, people tend to offer free stuff to promote their own work. If you can't do that, then what's the point. For me, it was more about the principle of it. When they start boxing you in, it's time to leave. I personally feel great now that I've move to another site and I've actually started doing more free stuff.

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2897445

It does list DAZ 4.9 and you did lie about it. You're lying about it now. And I posted here to get someone else to reply because you are no help whatsoever.

And again, your policy does not trump contract law.

Please Kristi, do not reply here again. You are a complete waste of time and are not helpful in the least.

What's happened to this place? From the horrible customer support to the authoritarian censorship, it's really gotten out of hand.

@Razor42: As mentioned, none of your points make any logical sense.

DAZ is adding encryption after how many years? And they're doing this for no revenue and no benefit to the end user? This is what you want me to believe? It doesn't add up. And it's really painful to read through.

You've yet to indicate what metric DAZ would consider dropping DRM. You can't say what it is because there is no such metric. You try to mention some made up metrics, but none of those things matter to the decision of adding DRM in the first place if you're arguing against what I've said. DRM isn't going to stop piracy and even if it did, the argument that more people would buy their products is in support of MY argument as to why DAZ is doing this. You mention difference in sales. So you agree that DAZ created this as a source of revenue? If not, then you can't use it on both sides of your argument. You can't in one sentence deny that DAZ did it for a new source of revenue and then turn around and use source of revenue as a metric if DRM is impactful or not. This kind of double talk is not helping. And the irony is that the things you mention are actually in support of the very points I made.

About plan B, please specify when DAZ has ever gone back on a decision and implemented something different? There is no precedent. Without such a precedent, it is you who are speculating about DAZ's behaviour, not me.

And about DAZ sticking with DRM forever. Why would this need explanation? The end is when the company goes out of business. Could be soon, could be a 100 years from now. What is difficult to understand here?

And nothing you've said thus far applies to DRM. It is NOT part of a business plan. DAZ does not provide end products. They provide content creation tools and assets. The notion of adding DRM in such a scenario is completely different to the unrelated examples you've mentioned.

Again, I'll repeat that my two assertions above are incontestable. Only if you reject logic can you attempt to argue against it. This is how you end up with silly arguments that a company will do something for no revenue and no benefit to the end user. There is a PERCEIVED benefit to DAZ. And if you're suggesting it's not money, you're the one who needs to put your best foot forward and show conclusive proof. In business, saying that a company does something for their bottom line is NEVER speculation. It is the rule. Because if they're doing thing with no benefit to revenue, they will find themselves out of business in short order and my being wrong won't matter anyways because it means DAZ did something so stupid (and knowingly so) that it ran them out of business, something I've said I'm not willing to entertain. So in the future, please try to make more coherent arguments as what you've shown so far is not a productive use of anyone's time.

None of what you've said about #1 applies to DRM. And in #2, DRM isn't measured in sales. What possible data would they look at? So your entire argument is nothing more than handwaving.

RHaseltine posted at 8:26PM Tue, 09 February 2016 - #4254040

Vorlath posted at 9:39AM Tue, 09 February 2016 - #4253979

I said pretty much the same thing ssgbryan says up above. DAZ will ride this to the end. To me, it looks like they are hurting bad. The only reason they would add encryption is if they're looking for additional sources of revenue. Otherwise, there is no reason to do this. Anyhow, my post at DAZ forums got deleted right away for saying this. Some have said that DAZ will drop DRM if there is no cost-benifit. Incorrect. Other companies have used DRM and they've gone under. In fact, the more they lost revenue, the more they strengthened DRM. And as another user said, DAZ never has a plan B. They will stick to DRM to the end.

Speculation without foundation, however firmly stated, is not fact.

I wish it was speculation, but it isn't. I've said 2 things.

1. That a business has invested money into something they hope will become a source of income.
2. That said company will continue to use said "something" to the end.

Neither one is contestable. For the first point to be false, it would mean that business invested in something that provides them zero revenue and causes zero advantage to their users. That's just nonsense. The second point would normally be challenged on the premise that if said company were to lose money, they would re-evaluate their decision. The problem is that what they implemented is something they believe will generate revenue, or worst case, stop free access to their products. So exactly how will they come to the realization that this "something" is actually the culprit or harmful in any way?

So go ahead. Challenge the points I've made. It simply cannot be done in a fashion that makes any logical sense. Now, people making decisions that don't make sense is possible, but that's not something I want to entertain for the time being.