AGAIN IM SAYING THIS IN CAPS THIS ISNT ABOUT ME AND MY GALLERY IT WAS A GENERALIZATION... EVERYONE IS DIRECTING IT TOWARDS ME

again not saying me, im speaking in general.. I post here cause I love vue, and so does everyone else here.. I have found no better.. its a generalization, not a cry for my gallery to get comments.. My images are made for me and anyone else who cares to look.. Yes I dont do many outdoor scenes or plants and water scenes.. Cause I want to see what Vue can actually do versus what I know it can do.. Others here try the same.. Yet recognition goes to the simplist of images which tends to turn away the artists who will pave the way for everyones future images.. Imagine if the one person finally finds out how to do a hdri inside Vue, the community would go nuts, no imagine that artist also thinking his hard work is going unseen and decides just to keep it to themself.. Thats would be a shame. And thats the point im trying to make, we all as artists look at others work, it only takes 20 secs to comment, I myself should heed my own words and comment more myself. How many times did you see a image and think "thats amazing" and then move on to the next image.. Why not leave a comment good or bad.. Artists truely cant develop if they dont have responses to there work..

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its not an ultimate goal but it is a tool in the 3D toolbox.. This wasnt about making a scene, artwork, or even anything it was about trying to mess with vue to get some sort of edge on lighting.. With out having to spend 600-4000 dollars on software.. I dont see the big deal why everyone is in a hub bub over this.. If you were say an artist would you limit yourself to one brush, one medium, one style? No then why do it with this program.. Its all about options and doing things from the normal.. Some of todays great artists say Salvadore Dali for instance did some whacky stuff in his day, that Im sure people said was stupid or weird or just plain goofy.. But to others Dali was inspirational, astounding, etc etc.. If you dont want realism then carry on as you were.. If you do then try to change the way normal people think of vue.. Thats what im trying to do. Not create masterpieces for an art museum.. This is a challenge to me.. It stimulates my brain.. It helps me furtur understand the progam and its nuances. It helps me get a better idea of lighting. It helps me learn more about materials and the way they react with lighting. It makes me learn how light reflects off of non reflective objects. Etc Etc.. All things a great artist should know.. So in fact im learning more than just slapping some objects into a scene and pushing render. Even a newbie will eventually come out with a good one that way.. Yes it may sound arrogant but in time I will learn more than just using vue and never exploring its boundaries.. Ibanezcollector

Nick1 heres a good link for ya.. It explains it more in detail than I ever could.. http://www.visualart.ro/tutorials/hdri/hdri_e.htm

now if I lightly texture the ground, and mess with the materials to give it more of a pool ball feel versus the metallic feel it has now. I might be on to something.. The lighting which isnt my strong point needs reworked as well. But its a start..

ok scratch the whole photoshop idea.. Didnt work as I planned here the untouched picture with the light bursting thru the alpha plane..

Ok heres what I did.. I set up the picture then I deleted the ground and made a cube extremly thin and some what transparent. Since I couldnt get vue to shade half the so called ground I put 2 black boxes underneath the ground so it changed the color of the ground. Which produced the shade. I then added 3 lights and a alpha plane.. I then made the alpha plane somewhat transparent and made it so it reflects colored light. So basically when the light, which is really turned up hits the alpha plane it will project the image on to the spheres.. I then created two seperate pictures one with the alpha plane and one with out.. I then headed to photoshop to blend the two images.. Heres a screen shot of vue to show the lay out and the picture will follow in the next post.. I think if I mess with the materials and light more I may just found what I wanted..

I think I may have found a way to sorta fake the hdri in the picture with the 3 spheres im going to render it on final real quick(lol) and then post it for opinions.. I really had to try some sill stuff but I may have it.. Be back in a few after the renders done..

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See those look real.. Not kinda real cause you used some high quality textures. No disrespect meant to anyone. See thats photo realism in my eyes. Its all about the lighting. In real life lighting doesnt reflect or distribute like vue does. Thats its flaw. I again am not complaining cause I dont have the money to buy a 3700 dollar program. All I was saying is lets get a few of renderositys top vue image makers and set forth a mission to somehow create a way in vue to give others a tool to work with. I never wanted a contest, or thought of offering it.. I dont know where this keeps coming from. I just wanted to assemble a team of hard working, dedicated, vue creators to try and solve one of vues downfalls.

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ok maybe I have a different opinion on what looks real.. All of the above look awesome but you can clearly tell there computer animated. My idea of realism is you can not tell it was done on a computer. Lets look at the suitcase for a moment. Its a beautiful scene and looks fairly real but it still looks fake. I love the textures and the lighting is good but it lacks realism. Here is some shots of the type of realsim Im talking about..