I remember a role he played in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" as a demented android. It showed his versatility as a actor; he could do more than comedy. He could also play an excellent villain. He will be missed!

Thanks everybody! Found some drawings done of what he might look like without the beard. I'll work on that and then try the hair room for the beard.

That is why we need some photos before the beard. He was to have been something of a playboy before he converted to wahabism.

Bin Laden, Hitler, and that type are people that know exactly how everything should be and how everyone should act. The only thing they are uncertain of is what to do next. These are the people you have to watch out for. The average person is mostly content to try to live their own lives. They have a certain degree of uncertainty about most things. Thanks for the input!

It is kind of surprising that someone hasn't done Osama before this. I believe that the face is long and basically heart shaped. The nose is wide and flat, nostrils large, the bridge is narrow, the slope of the nose is downward. The lips are wide but the mouth itself is about medium. The nose is the prominent feature. The morphing fantasy beard from DAZ looks about the closest to the beard but it is too wide. Looks like the one that Charlton Heston wore in Moses. Might be some morphing controls. There are turbans out there but none that match the one he wears. I would prefer the white afghan outfit but he wears army fatigues a lot and these are easier to find. (Whew...my cat just deposited more bin laden in his litter box.)

The police sketch artists used to have a machine that allowed a witness to do a sketch by specifying the shape of the head, width of nose, etc. The head morphs that are available with the package just about lets you do any man if you can get the same person at different angles and you know how to use it(which I don't yet). It is an extraordinary level of control.

The beard definitely looks a horse's tail.

Looks like I spoke too soon. Little Dragon, that is neat! I had no idea that you could do that with walk designer. There is a good reference by Eadweard Muybridge on animal locomotion called Animals in Motion. It is published by Dover. It has a series of photographs of animals in different motions. It is especially good on horses. It covers them walking, galloping, jumping, pulling, trotting, etc. It also shows the corresponding poses of the riders (including sidesaddle). It also has photographs of other animals as well for walk cycles (etc), even birds in flight. If you ever have to do a motion cycle from scratch, it is a good book to have.

The only way to animate a horse is with a motion capture file. The Forge sells .bvh files for horses at www.the-forge.ie. Credo Interactive also sells .bvh files and poser horse models at www.charactermotion.com. This is their animania section. They have a more complete set and includes walking. However, I think most of the motion capture files have the horse going in a straight line rather than following a path.

The greek hair styles are available at www.daz3d.com for $19.95. The price includes two hairstyles for women. They also have a lot of Greek clothing for women.

www.daz3d.com sells a football pack for Michael for $24.95. This includes the equipment and 26 poses.

There is a new book due out soon on character creation in Poser. It is by B.L. Render and is "The Secrets of Figure Creation in Poser". It was about $32.00 at Amazon.

What would be great would be to say some of the great stars of yesteryear playing with living actors of today. Still, the great actors bring something to the role that a computer can't do, YET.

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In the free archive at DAZ, they have a swords and scabbards package for the downloading. You have to be a registered user.