Thank you for the considered responses.  I felt like this was a discussion happening outside of our community and that your views are important in leveling the dialog.  I think that Renderosity is a great place to grow as a vendor, providing a reasonable platform for exposure.  My experience elsewhere has been large, convoluted sales that involve thousands of items and are so complicated to navigate and so short in duration that I skip most of them.  It's just not worth the time to figure out the current gamified promotion.  I suspect that vendors may not find it an upgrade to be aggregated so deeply in these offers.  I've seen almost no mention of them since the jump.  I hope it works out, I like their work, but this is still my favorite place to shop.

Thanks again

I was coincidently just thinking about this the last few days, looking at various listings that support both DS and Poser.  Some vendors will tell you which software version created their different examples, many do not.  If there is a vendor style guide, could the ‘suggestion’ to do so be added?

Often only DS samples are offered, so you have no idea what the product looks like in Poser?  I get not every merchant uses Poser and the number of cross platform options are dwindling, but it is nice from a user standpoint.  I know it makes a difference in my buying decisions.

DeeceyArt posted at 8:41 AM Tue, 13 February 2024 - #4481570

Poser Pro 2012 and 2014 were only available through Smith Micro. When Poser was sold to Bondware/Renderosity, they only acquired the rights to Poser 11 and later.

Thank you for the reply!  I was asking more from a user to user level than a direct request to Bondware.  I was hoping someone one might know if they still install correctly?  Assuming it would work, I thought someone might have an extra copy and we could work something out.

I currently own 11 and 12, I was just wanting to play with it in conjunction with my other ecosystem, if possible.

adorety posted at 3:20 PM Sun, 4 February 2024 - #2986180

Curious about these vendors. Can't find them or products I bought from them to re-download.

You should still be able to download them from your account, from the original purchase?  I have stuff from vendors long gone that I can still access that way.

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 4:19 PM Sun, 5 November 2023 - #4477349

zaubermac posted at 12:06 PM Sun, 5 November 2023 - #4477337

Just curious, did they add a morph in LF2 to adjust her nose?  The top of her nose lines up under the bottom of her eyes?  In my personal opinion, this is an effect that limits her useful poses?  Generally, a person's nose lines up somewhere between the middle and top of their eyes?  In my experience, people of some Asian cultures have about the lowest I've seen, but they still tend to be about the middle of the eye?  Admittedly, the 100's of figure drawings I've done are a small sample of the world and I'm not trying to offend anyone, I'm just asking a question from the perspective of a more analog art background?  In my area, most people are of asian, hispanic, native or european descent, but the world's a big place; I'm sure there's more to it than I've seen!  It's possible that it was intentional, if someone knows the design process in that decision, I'd love to know?

The design process was basically "I gathered a whole bunch of reference pictures and stared at them and worked on the figure until it looked good to me, then showed it to a few people for critique and made a few adjustments".

Making a morph for what you say there should be very very easy. Are you savvy with Poser's morph tools? They're wonderful to use.

Thanks Ohki for your helpful response!  Like I said, it was an artistic question, not a criticism, and I appreciate helpful feedback.  I'll give the tool a try, haven't done much with it yet.  Poser 3 was one of the first 3d programs I used (along with Bryce) and I've been happy to see it moving forward again, so I picked it up.  Always happy to see alternatives to Daz size fits all and happy to see LF2 moving forward as well.  I'll lurk the forums if I get stuck on the morphs :D

Just curious, did they add a morph in LF2 to adjust her nose?  The top of her nose lines up under the bottom of her eyes?  In my personal opinion, this is an effect that limits her useful poses?  Generally, a person's nose lines up somewhere between the middle and top of their eyes?  In my experience, people of some Asian cultures have about the lowest I've seen, but they still tend to be about the middle of the eye?  Admittedly, the 100's of figure drawings I've done are a small sample of the world and I'm not trying to offend anyone, I'm just asking a question from the perspective of a more analog art background?  In my area, most people are of asian, hispanic, native or european descent, but the world's a big place; I'm sure there's more to it than I've seen!  It's possible that it was intentional, if someone knows the design process in that decision, I'd love to know?

Hey, great discussion on backup strategies!  I would add one more proactive piece to the mix.  I spent a number of years doing IT security and IT support for creatives and my advice has always been to use your production box as a tool.  Obviously you can't lock it away, everything is connected to something these days, but use the internet as needed, where needed.  For random surfing a throw-away chrome book or ipad shaped object is great.  You can't break it by surfing and will keep your important programs and data free to do what you paid so much for them to do.  When my computer was my living, I backed up weekly, to two different drives, alternating.  That way I had a backup.  Over the years, I've had to rebuild from a virus only once, but I've had 3 system drive failures.  Backups are your friend :D

Glad 13 is working, it's on my list of things to get!