The plan was not donating money but to buy a piece of Bryce6 or any upgrade to 5 in advance. As a "true artist" I can tell you that to me Bryce is not a landscape generator but a tool I use to create the image I want to make and the only limit I found sofar would be me. Bryce is not a toy..its a serious application that can produce serious results when put in the right hands.

Bryce to me is the only camera that will allow me to shoot inside my head! It has allowed me to express the images that bounce around in there in a simple and cost effective manner like no other program could. I want, no, I NEED it to continue to grow and I am willing to do whatever I can to help with that. If that is a contribution/subscription, fine, testing/feedback, fine! Way to go AS, definitely in agreement!

Aye, I have a lot of faith in the Program itself, it's ridiculously powerful for it's price! The interface and the different labs offer a really intuitive and deep level of creativity, unlike most of the higher apps I've used which stress program knowledge instead of program exploration to develop techniques. I'm sure there are plenty of smaller, Meta-Creations sized companies out there that would be able to secure our Program. But I think we'd all love to see it back in it's creator's hands, at Pandromeda or otherwise. Far as I know, Doc Mojo is one of the only programmers who gives a shit enough to stop in and say what's on his mind, much less the only one to comment on any of MY images! (Thank you Sir!) So let's not get too depressed about it, either Bryce 6 comes out, or it doesn't. In the meantime, we'll all just keep learning and expanding our creativity in 5/4/3d(It Moves!), and if nothing else between now and Bryce 6, perhaps someone will write a plug for LW or Maia that lets us convert our scenes over...? Or a (probably illegal to even mention it, but...) third-party .br5 renderer that actually moves! We are, we make stuff, that is all...

As I have stated,Doc if you need help just call....

"I seriously doubt Renderosity, 3DWorld and Computer Arts have anywhere near 100k per month in printings, heck, probably far less. (versus millions)." Check this on 3DWorld's webside: "from all 32,416,822 corners of our expertly rendered polygonal planet!" I always thought that was the number of subscribers. Am I just really stupid for thinking so? Or am I right saying that we can reach millions of people?

Nah, they don't have that many subscribers, or that many printings every month. If they did, they would eventually own the world, by grossing oh, probably around 300 million dollars every month. Millions can be reached, it would have to be done through many channels.

I wonder what the number stands for then...

I bet it's just made up? dunno.

could be.

Have you seem my texture in my recent post? I think you'll like it.

seem = seen

I think What they mean is that the earth is 32 million Polygons around hence the "Expertly Rendered"

I like the idea and would be very happy to spare US$100 to help Pandromeda buy Bryce from Corel. Fernando

I think What they mean is that the earth is 32 million Polygons around hence the "Expertly Rendered"

Yeah, but it's still no better than the moon without its texture map. :p

Honestly though, I'll be willing to send an Andrew Jackson towards the Bryce fund. If just for an honerable mention somewhere hidden in the long list of contributors towards the creation of Bryce 6. :)

If you want to know the subscriber count of magazines, look in the back issues. Under US law, to send the magazines by the US postal service, at least 1 time per year they print a small table showing how many total issues were printed, how many were sent to paid subscribers, etc. Careful search of the last year's worth of magazines will show a table, probably 2-3 inches wide and 8 inches tall, or as large as 1 printed page with the numbers in it.

So where do we send the money?

This is all just a plan, I think everyone is kinda waiting for DocMojo to get back from his convention, and reply to all this. See what his thoughts are. He should be back on the 10th or 11th. AS

Too long of a wait AgentSmith I think we should start the FUND now and let DOC approve it from Afar....I think we can get a fund started here and we can get a website started with stats that will show how much is in the fund and also show who has donated money...I say lets start....

Just do an IPO or better yet, keep it a private stock. Mo can buy the shares back when he's got it going.

Hey, for the love of Bryce go for it! ;oD

OK all who is in??????Lets roam far a field and start the motion going lets get everybody involved????

As stated previously, I'm in and I'm pledging $250 CDN.

OK...Hey AgentSmith is there anyway that we can get a link to a page that will be developed for The Purchase of Bryce put in the Bryce Banner at the top of this Page?And also Is there any way we can get a percentage of our Earnings/Sales Taken out and donated to the "Bryce Quest"...

Perhaps it would be wise if we start a poll to query how many people here would join in. This poll could also include some contribution levels in US$, like $10 to $25, $26 to $50, etc.

Don't you just love this forum........Hugs all 8) Catlin

Fascinating... Would be good to see Bryce kept up.

Sounds very good to me...This weekend I am going to be surfing the web and seeing if we can get the word out...

Well right here I think Doc and Eric have a few thousand!

Count me in also, if someone could setup a web page and a linking banner I'd put it on my sites. I could put 100$ down as a contribution as well.

I found out over the weekend that one of my friends knows some of the developement staff at Corel. He will be happy to find out info for us is I can supply him with qestions. So let me know what questions you want answered and I'll set the ball rolling. Cheers Catlin PS. be nice

Cat, the big question is; Is Corel halting for good all Bryce development. Then; Is Corel going to sell Bryce. From what I read here Conan said Bryce was on "hold", I am thinking this is the same as a pro team owner saying we have the utmost confidence in our head coach. It is called the "kiss of death" :] Thanks Cat for going after the answers :)

I think your link jesterhawk is a little misleading. Cat

Sorry about that. It wasn't supposed to be. I misread the thing on the bottom here. I thought caption meant caption to your message and URL was for if you had a homepage. Sorry about the mixup :( I have deleted the message and will repost without the link. Jesterhawk

Hello, I would chip in some money to help. The problem is that I don't have much money. But you can have my $50. Just let me know where to send it. Also, I would love to see when it gets bought and worked on (and it will) a better export routine to allow for those of us who have friends who use other programs to share objects we create. Anyway, SAVE BRYCE, I love the program. Let me know what I can do at jesterhawk@yahoo.com. Thanks Jesterhawk

Hope you all can get Bryce from Corel would hate to see it die. Any help you need count me in. Also if you do aquire it and need some beta testers count me in too :O)

Oh yes! What a sweet and promising vision : Bryce with its original fathers! Let me know if I can help... Thanks, Chris-

Anybody have any news yet? I really hope Doc gets Bryce, I can't think of anything better for Bryce's future. Let me know if I can help in any way. I normally don't watch the Renderosity forums, is there more current threads that I should be watching here? Thanks!

Well, I don't know if he is going to do it or not, but E-On software (the makers of Vue D'Sprit) has a survey online and the questions seem to indicate that they are considering purchasing Bryce. Don't know for sure, but you should all check it out. http://www.e-onsoftware.com/survey/ Jesterhawk

From what I've gleaned from my friend it would appear that since times are tough for Corel there is a good chance they would sell Bryce to put something back in the coffers, and I think this would be more likely since at present they don't appear to have any future plans for Bryce. The patch for Bryce 5 was the last work to be done on the program and since many of the developers were laid off last summer I don't think any more work was completed for a Bryce 6. Also there didn't appear to be any developers brought in from outside the company to continue work on Bryce, this would have cost a fortune to do anyway and I don't think Corel have the finances for that at the moment. From everything my mate has told me it would appear that the developers of Bryce were/are as dedicated to the program as we are, but because times are very hard economically for Corel they had to let the developers go and as Bryce is not included in Corel's future plans, no more work is being done on it. Folk who have an interest in aquiring Bryce basically have a similar problem as Corel itself, the venture capital isn't there, and there's another point, many people would like to own Bryce the name but not Bryce the program and we should all be careful about who we choose to trust with the use of our money to develop Bryce for this reason. One thing I was warned about was that putting money into buying Bryce would have to be done as an investment program with all the contracts etc. that accompany such an action, then we would have the assured knowledge of what we would be getting in return otherwise we could end up throwing good money after bad and not get the program we want in return. This brings me back to a point I made earlier and that is that we would need someone trustworthy to organise this and it would be asking a lot of someone to do this. I hope this has answered some of peoples questions and if there is anything else anyone would like to know either write here or IM me. I'll also put this in a new thread to keep everyone informed. Cheers Cat

Hello Again, I got an email from an E-On Software Customer Service rep and he informed me that as long as plans don't change, they plan to incorporate a Bryce importer into Vue 5. That would at least allow us to keep all our cool old Bryce stuff alive if Bryce goes away. On a side note, it would be really cool if someone could write a piece of software that could convert a Bryce Scene file to say a Lightwave scene or 3D Studio Max or something. Just rambling on this one. Thanks Jesterhawk

I agree Jesterhawk, that would be cool. Did E-On say anything about whether their importer would import procedural textures? I doubt it but that would be insanely kewl. I'm still pulling for Doc Mojo, Vue looks really nice, but Bryce is my first 3D love ;-) The DTE is still one of my favorite places to play of all the apps I've tried (besides MojoWorld of course).

No, they didn't mention anything about textures, although I assumed that if you were going to import a whole scene then you would have to import the textures. However, that is my opinion. I agree. Bryce 3D is my first love as well. I would love to see it taken by someone (like Doc Mojo) who has a real love for it and will take it to the next level. Jesterhawk

Check out what Doc Mojo had to say about a Bryce/Mojo merge here guys. He said that the Bryce UI would go if he got it and I really don't want to think of a Bryce without the familliar interface. http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=1161488 Cat