ok here's another question... how do you make elven ears out of reg ears? I don't want to mess with the wrong dials or anything so before I go that far I want to ask you all here since you've been very helpful. Thanks in advance!!

What character? Most characters have built in elven/fairy ears, and the ones that hasn't often have the mmorphs available for free somewhere. In general, if a morph isnt' present, it's close to impossible to achieve the effect. Magnets are good for stuff like pointed eas though :o)

dont forget to make it a gay elf cuz all elves are gay!

O.o all elves are gay?

The mil characters have the injection morphs for elven ears, there are several choices...and if you combine those with some of the animal ear morphs you can get a pretty good set of ears that way.

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Well, if I was intending to hunt down ready-made morphs or learn to make my own, I'd start at Traveler's site. Look under "files" for bunches of morphs and under "tutorials" for instructions and a nifty targo-magnet. If you are going to do a first-class job of elf-making, you'll probably want to do more than just glue on some pointy-ears. I can suggest raising the cheekbones, making the eyes bigger or slantier, the chin more delicate or even juttier, a more slender body or longer fingers, something to indicate that your character isn't a human in "spock ears"! The other good place for anything elven is FaerieWylde http://www.faeriewylde.com/forum/index.php Look under "fairie gifts" for pointed-ear morphs, and I think you can find antennae as well. (You didn't say what sort of "elf"... treatment ranges from winged pixies to Tolkienesque High Elves.) Have fun! Carolly

Mattbaby must have fell out with an elf at some time :) All elves aren`t gay and in lord of the rings, the books and films, they are very good fighters.

Don't encourage him. I'm beginning to suspect that he just wants to rant, not make art. Ok alfar ok aesir The elves and the gods as they said in Old Norse... and the elves were superior to the gods. They were above the petty bickering which started so many saga tales, they seldom had business with the gods let alone mortal man, and they had names for everything. ;) Pointy ears is a much later add-on. We make gods in our image, but how do we describe a race superior to the gods? Carolly

We make gods in our image, but how do we describe a race superior to the gods?< we put pointy ears on them?~giggles~

Are you sure you're not confusing Allfar with Alfar ? Allfar = Allfather... Not knocking you, Carolly - I'd love to hear more about this, because all we got in school was Heimskringla, Older and Newer Edda and a selection of Snorre concerning ir and jotner - Elves werent mentioned much :-) ~S

magnets ! even simple ones...

In Gylfaginning, Snorri says that there are 12 gods... and then proceeds to list 13. ;^) If he couldn't get the lists and the ordering straight, we can only hope to make some little sense of it at this remote period. Anyway, find your copy of the Elder Edda... there are poems which are riddles asking what is the name of "x" and the response is: elves call it "thus" and gods call it the "other", it is shunned by dwarves who named it "whatever", and so on. Not all races had names for all of the objects in question (although IIRC they all had a name for mead), and the coverage and avoidances are interesting. There is also the Flyting of Loki, where the nasty troublemaker walks into the party where the gods and the elves are quietly enjoying a meal together. Loki calls Odin a liar and Freya a whore and remarks that Thor is so stupid that he doesn't know a glove from a hole in the ground... etc. He doesn't say a word against the elves. They'd blast him, and he is smart enough to know exactly how far he can push things. (Odin can't touch him since Loki is his foster brother; the elves face no such hindrance, and are indeed above the fray.) In the lists of races (think Treebeard wondering where to put hobbits) the alfar = elves are listed before the aesir = gods. By this poetic time, the vanir are usually lumped in with the aesir and before the giants. The vanir had lost a long war with the aesir and there was an exchange of hostages, intermarryings, and the usual. Now to add confusin... both of Loki's parents were giants. At least one of Thor's and Odin's parents were giants. The gods were always marrying giants. And for even more confusion... there are light elves and dark elves, and the dark elves are often confused with dwarves in the stories since they share similar dwellings and attributes. The elves didn't mingle, stayed out of trouble, and thus left few songs of their adventures. Of particular note: the poets were almost entirely Odin's followers... and if they say that the elves are above the gods, even to the detriment of their own chosen god, that was probably common belief. Carolly