maybe i have a bad eye but that really dont look much more differant than a 8 min render in bryce to me and i have only a celeron 366. but perhaps i'm mistaken jeff

Trust me. You can't get lighting like that in Bryce. Global illumination gives images that soft, realistic look. I've done similar renderings in Max with the skydome script. I have to say Lightwave kicks @$$ with GI. Great job Darth! :)

thanks for the encouragement redvant. I only wish I could get the rendertime down though. I'm still working on the "optimal" setting. Maybe it's just time to get that dual pentium 800 system! Not with a baby on the way unfortunately. If anyone can give me some insight as to how to improve render speed, please come forward. later, Don

my apoligies i stand corrected it just seemed to me about the same but just out of courisioty how much longer would it take to do a render with a scene added extra models and stuff like that 3 hours seems an awful long time for a simple render or could you perhaps adjust the render time in that prog.?

Ninhalo5 I'm actually trying different settings to get the best time. I have also found that some textures work better w/radiosity than others. I'm not sure why. I hope to get the quickest/best quality settings soon. I am also curious as to how much of a render cost adding more figures will be. Hopefully it won't be that much. I think it will though. later, Don

well good luck my friend cant wait to see a final outcome