How much violence is to violent for renders here at renderosity. This might be a question for a moderater I'm not sure. I have a render that I was going to post but I wanted to be sure first. I don't want to offend anyone. Thank you

Well, seeing as how some people in real life can be barbaric enough to cut heads off (in the name of politics/religion) then your proposed violent image will have to be pretty bad to come close to that. Whether we want to see it converted to 3D is another matter. Personally, I don't. Let Paypal decide!

Hi atilla, that's a really difficult question to answer without seeing the pic. Sorry, I know that isn't much help!

The TOS states the following:
"Unacceptable Images or Writing Themes:
No Rape [actual or implied]
No Torture [defined as: the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, wounding, crucifixion) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure]..."

So it also might depend on the context; an image showing a lone wounded man might be viewed differently than the act of wounding in progress. If you want to PM any of the moderators or coordinators (names up at the top of the forum) for more guidance, please do, we will be happy to help.

Karen
Poser Coordinator

Edited for clarity and typos :)

Message edited on: 11/18/2004 15:32

So, it would be OK to depict a bound human with his/her head chopped off (and a 'religious' book nearby) so long as we didn't see the barbaric virtual terrorists doing it? Renderosity should really be getting to grips with violent images. We can't show 3D people making love but it might be OK to show someone wounded from an act of violence?

No, Becco, that is not what I said. I said "an image showing a lone wounded man might be viewed differently than the act of wounding in progress." No two images are the same, but we must consider the context of the image. I would not consider an image such as either you describe as being acceptable - but as I said to the original poster, it is very difficult to give an answer without a specific example to say "yes" or "no" to.

here is a rule of thumb: If you have to ask the answer is no.

good way to find out- just post it- worse case scenero- it gets deleted- no real harm done to you. then go and post it at rendervisions.com :)

I'v seen some very very graphic violent scenes here in the galleries, This is only my opinion, and the mods may not agree-- but I'm going by what seems to have been allowed to stay up. Those pictures which are realistically violent but do not have that "twist" of deriving pleasure from the violence--humor, you understand, and satire are quite different--have validity beyond the subject matter. Violence that comes from a heart wrung situation and is true to the setting and not prurient seems to be allowed and is very very effective and not disgusting. The pictures I'm thinking of-- can't provide links at this time-- are two. One was by Traveler and depicted a woman in cyber extreme. We all knew because he explained it in the commentary that this was a way to work out interior pain. There was no titillation, only, well compassion and rightous horror for anyone hurting so badly. These are, in my opinon, good impulses to create in a viewer. Anothe picture used the wonderful but very graphic texture Bludgeon. It showed a warrior Vickie, wounded almost to death, reaching out for help. Amazing render, gave one the feeling of the toll fantasy violence took on the creatures we blithely throw into battle. Real battle scenes, realistically portrayed without purience. Thats where I would draw the line-- but I'm not a mod. And don't have the high speed DSL to be one. Torture can tend to titillate and create a sense of violence as sexually arousing-- not appropriate for Renderosity galleries. There are other places to post those works. Some battle or violent one on one scenes can give the same ambiguous effect. I'm trying not to be too opaque here. If it gives you a chubby, you gone too far. Emily

Thank you all for you help. I've decided not to post it at this time, for it depicts death and someone who hates the job that they have. Thanks Karen for your quick response. Thank you Atilla39

The more the completely natural sex drive is suppressed, the more people are ready for violence and intolerance. Makes 'em good soldiers. Nowadays, "make War, not Love" is the norm to live by. Finally all good clean-cut kids in all good families in the new theocracy follow Jesus' words. rendervisions.com heh? I'll go and take a look...

Nowadays, "make War, not Love" is the norm to live by. Nowadays, huh? I take it you haven't read a great deal of history. ;-) bonni

I have a VERY bloody hand drawn Fantasy battlefield pic in my Gallery, that I did quite a long time ago. so I think you are safe if it isn't torture or sadism related.

It has a severed head in it. (Hey I grew up on Conan the Batrbarian comics! -_-)

I certainly wouldn't post something with that subject nowadays though. given what some sick mofos in ass backwards parts of the world do. -_-

My personal opinion on violence in art/film/etc... is as follows. Gore doesn't bother me at all, but cruelty does. A totally ridiculous ultraviolent horror film like Friday the 13th or Nightmare on elm street is fun for me, while something like the Hitcher, or 7 I can't stand, I just yell at the screen and make my wife mad. :D.

Normal people in the civillized world should be able to differentiate fantasy from real Violence and debaucherie.

(Goes back to playing Grand theft auto San Andreas)

Message edited on: 11/19/2004 08:50