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Subject: Vue5i and Poser6??


zerebrom ( ) posted Mon, 11 April 2005 at 6:05 AM · edited Wed, 18 December 2024 at 8:18 AM

Ok, I could do this in the Poser forum as well, but since I am mostly a Vue-er: If you look around there seem to be some problems concerning the way from Poser6 into Vue5i (or any other version of Vue). What is hard to find is any information about the second best (views matter, for me it IS best) solution to get Poser models into Vue, and this is via DAZStudio. Right, DAZSTudio. Why this? Because it is running a lot faster then Poser (talking of version 5), and posing is easier, too. For the file format, well there is "objBryce", and this - oh wonder - is perfectly read within Vue! No hazzle with hair, eyes, anything. Bumps are perfect - the great solution. Now: if - and that is my question - if Poser6 and DAZStudio would work like Poser5 And DAZStudio, then the wait for any update concerning the ex- or import would be over! So, if anybody has tested to open a Poser6 model in DAZStudio (or any DAZ figure that has been installed for Poser6), and then has brought that into Vue(any version) successfully: please, let me know!! Thanks a lot!! PS: ready to purchase both, Vue5i and Poser6 - depending on the useability.


blaufeld ( ) posted Mon, 11 April 2005 at 9:29 AM

Unfortunately, more and more stuff (particularly the morph channel coonected ones) is done that's NOT compatible with DAZStudio, that, IMHO, will meet a sad end if they don't squash the orrible bugs SOON...


dlk30341 ( ) posted Mon, 11 April 2005 at 10:04 AM · edited Mon, 11 April 2005 at 10:05 AM

Just give it some time...E-On is working on it. There have been people reporting success importing from Poser6...others reporting textures missing etc. All you have to do is point Vue to poser.exe(within version 6). Myself, I will continue to use Poser5 till E-ON has it ready(they had to get the SDK from CL, which they didn't get till P6 was released). Besides...also waiting for CL to fix the mem bug before I even load up P6 on my machine. I have NO patience for crashes...so I'm willing to wait on all acounts :) Poser 4 & 5 import 99% flawlessly & quickly. The only problem is that Vue won't import P5 procedurals. CL won't(I can understand this) release the FULL SDK.

Message edited on: 04/11/2005 10:05


XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 12:10 AM

I have NO patience for crashes...so I'm willing to wait on all acounts :)

No patience......so you are willing to wait.

Hmmmm.

;-)

Me, too.

Only in my case, I am waiting because I don't have any other choice.

:O

Yes......Poser is the way to go if you want compatibility with Vue. Poser & Vue are a natural combination. Like ham & eggs.

Whenever P6 gets its act together -- I am thinking that there will be little need to look elsewhere. P6/Vue Infinite.

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zerebrom ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 12:23 AM

Tank you for your different insights - seems to be a good advise to take it slow and easy! As long as Vue5i can read pz3's (from P5) and objBryce format, there is no real pressure to buy any hasty done software. Gone are the times where you not had been forced to look for a bugfix (not to be confused with an UPDATE) the moment you opened up the package! Good old times!


XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 12:32 AM

Gone are the times where you not had been forced to look for a bugfix (not to be confused with an UPDATE) the moment you opened up the package!
Good old times!

I have to confess that I don't remember those times......and I've been fooling around with computers since 1980 or so........

I recall when dropping a book on the floor next to a PC set on top of a nearby table could tear up a hard drive.

I had one 386 that worked fine so long as the CPU box was standing on its side. But if the CPU box was placed into the "correct" horizontal position, then the machine wouldn't boot up.

And talk about buggy software.....man, oh man......I could tell you some stories.

But it's late here. Time to sign off.

Goodnight. And the best to you with that prime piece of software called Vue Infinite.

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zerebrom ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 5:01 AM

@xenophonz, thank you! Well, my day just started (7 hours + your time), and best dreams are daydreams (you should try that), so: how about another trip backwards to the times of the C64 (16 colors, SIMULTANIOUSLY!!). Wonder what makes me feel THAT old!! :)


Marque ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 5:59 AM

Was that a seagate drive? They were known not to work if the box wasn't in the right position...lol I remember when I got a 40 meg drive for my XT but couldn't use the whole thing because I was running DOS 3.3 heh Thought I was $hittin in tall cotton because my husbee let me buy a cga monitor from my neighbor. lol Marque


XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 11:10 AM

Actually, my first exposure ever to a "real" computer was in 1971.....or thereabouts.

My father took me to his workplace after hours for several days in a row. At the time, he was in the process of programming a Honeywell -- a machine that would be considered to be a minicomputer these days. Although that old Honeywell didn't have the power of today's cheap pocket calculators.........

The programming procedure consisted of punching out reels of paper tape -- little paper dots littered the floor everywhere. The plastic bag which was meant to catch the dots didn't always work.

As the 2" wide paper tape was created, an occasional grinding sound -- similar to that made by a wood lathe in operation -- would go off. This sound was followed by tiny paper dots spewing around, as the tape advanced along an inch or two -- techno-looking dots punched out on the surface of the tape.

To program 15K or so worth of code took many hours. You could spend the time reading a novel.

Once the tape was completed, then it could be fed back into the Honeywell's reader in order to activate a given program. This activity was accompanied by a row of flashing lights. Looking much like a control panel from a 1960's scifi TV show -- Lost in Space or classic Star Trek.

Man.....did I have stars in my eyes. I had truly arrived when my father allowed me to punch buttons on the Honeywell, causing the panel lights to flash in different patterns. Just like in the control room of the Seaview on Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.

Well, it's a few years later now.

And my eyes still light up whenever my PC's screen flashes, and the little LED's on my router box blink.

See what happens when one grows up? How much more mature one becomes with the years?

Who could ask for more?

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zerebrom ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 12:16 PM

I've just been told - another forum, same issue - that there would be nothing like "good old times". Quite frankly: "bs"!! As long as one does still remember where she/he came from...! It is not about comparing the glories of those days past with the rushes of our days, it's just a part of the experience. Glad that I - and a couple of other folks - got them!!


dlk30341 ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 5:03 PM · edited Tue, 12 April 2005 at 5:05 PM

1st computer so to speak was a Commodore 64. When I went to college it was still those damn punch cards with green/black monitors...Boy was I thrilled, when it went to the the rust color on black LOL. Then it was main frames...with HUGE fans all over so they wouldn't crash. Etc...Etc...Etc...My 1st programming language was COBOL and BASIC...by the time I graduated it was obsolete...by that time C++ was the in thing.....~sigh~...My word, how fast things change and for the better I might add :)

Message edited on: 04/12/2005 17:05


jwhitham ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 5:33 PM

I go back to the early 1970s; teletypes, dumb terminals and acoustic couplers myself.

I have to say that my worst computer experience ever was early '90s. I had some 'make or break' artwork to do - with CorelDraw 2 on a 386 DX running Windows 3.1 - by 11.30am next day, and didn't get started until 9.00pm. At this point my 40Mb Western Digital HD broke. I managed to get a friend who owned a computer parts store to go back to work and sell me a new HD, and by 10pm I was ready to re-install DOS 5 and Windows 3.1, but they were upgrades from previous versions so...

First I had to install DOS 3.3, which was on 3 x 5.25" disks and would only install from A: that meant swapping the floppy drives, then swapping back again to install DOS 4.2 (ISTR 3 x 3.5" disks) then DOS 5, Windows 3 (11 x 3.5") and finally Windows 3.1 (15? x 3.5") followed by CorelDraw 2 (another 12 x 3.5"). Unfortunately I'd forgotten the DOS 5.1 that followed the Stacker vs MS court case and so couldn't read any of the compressed floppies that I kept my work on, and 5.1 had to be installed before Windows so it was back to square one. Finally got it all running again about 9.30am.

Oh yes, those were the days!


XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 6:04 PM

Years ago, there was a DOS PC game called "Baby".

The game consisted of diapered cartoon babies falling out of the window of a burning building. The object was to move some cartoon firemen with a rescue trampoline around, and save as many of the falling babies as you could.

The little program ran fine on an XT.

I tried to use it on a 386. The babies were coming so fast that the human eye couldn't follow them. All of the babies hit the pavement, I'm afraid.

On a Pentium IV? Well.....the old 8-bit program probably couldn't be made to run anyway. So the babies should be safe from now on.

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jwhitham ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 6:34 PM

I tried some of those XT games on a 386 too. Tip: turn off the 'turbo' button and you can see some flickers of what's going on before the 'Game Over' screen appears.


dlk30341 ( ) posted Tue, 12 April 2005 at 7:55 PM

ROFLMAO! At Xeno..... My fav. game was Mega Race & Creature Shock...it ran OK for while...once I hit 2.4 GHZ the cars were racing all by themselves & the other wouldn't even run :(. Oh well...Sega/Xbox much better :) They look so much better on TV....Anyone know if Wolfenstein is available on Xbox...haven't been out in a while...to busy rendering LOL. Sort of lost interest in video games.


ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Wed, 13 April 2005 at 12:07 AM

The days of typing in Star Trek games on a DECWriter terminal hooked up to an HP-2000F mini.

www.youtube.com/user/ShawnDriscollCG


XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Wed, 13 April 2005 at 12:58 AM

They used to get mad at us for playing Star Trek on the old IBM 370. Wasted computational time/resources.

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zerebrom ( ) posted Wed, 13 April 2005 at 2:19 AM

... funny how a thread changes - if you find a better issue along the way! I am really enjoying this. Never thought that there would be that many "seniors" around!! Gon on, please :): any Amiga-folks around by any chance?? Had been my second machine (after tuning the C64 up a bit - involved adding hardware to your floppy in a way that you had to keep it open, no way to close the box anymore), and felt just like heaven!!


agiel ( ) posted Thu, 14 April 2005 at 9:37 AM

Not trying to show my age either, but my first exposure to computer graphics was trying to display mathematical surfaces on a ZX81 and its amazing 1K of RAM (16K with an extension :) ). I didn't follow the Comodore / Amiga road though... mine went through Amstrad CPC and Atari ST (the good old days of Ghost'n Goblins and Commando :)). Funny... I had to go through college and a computer center full of Sun workstations before I got my first PC (to run Linux at home). Speaking of being 'part of the experience'... there is nothing like scripting a scene for POVray in a text editor to give you a new appreciation of software like Vue :)


zerebrom ( ) posted Thu, 14 April 2005 at 10:10 AM

:):) Amiga versus Atari >> had been kind of a mild civil war at some times! And, yes: there is a reason for Moray! The most I did with POVray had been an unregular shaped cube - well if I think of it: POV did this, not me:). So, if you look at the innovation dycles of today - wonder where we are in two years from now! Implants, I guess. Getting updates by looking at some code.


XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Thu, 14 April 2005 at 11:06 AM

Sort of lost interest in video games.

Same here. Most all of my "free" computer time is now being taken up by Poser/Vue.

Civilization IV might change that state of affairs.....or at least get me to consider playing a game once in a while.

I used to be almost as addicted to Civilization as I now am to Poser/Vue. Almost.

These days, my primary gaming experience consists of a quick game of Freecell during a render.

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