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Subject: Long rendering times...


Acadia ( ) posted Fri, 15 July 2005 at 5:09 PM · edited Tue, 14 January 2025 at 7:45 AM

I purchased a character package for V3 awhile back and just got around to using it. The package includes: inj morphs, texture, makeup options, tattoo options, nail options and one outfit with top, undies and shoes. I injected the morphs, added the texture, one tattoo, eye makeup, nail colour, the top, undies, shoes (default textures), added hair and hair texture, a complex global light, and then tried to render it without a background. Usually a single figure such as that will render in about 1/2 hour or less for me. This one took almost 2 hours. I changed the pose and added the Poser World sofa to the scene. After 3 hours I cancelled the render because it seemed stuck at "adding objects". After I pressed cancel, poser indicated that it was cancelling the render. What would cause a single character such as that to take such a long time rendering, even though it was the only figure in the scene, while other characters where I've done essentially the same thing to (inj morphs, texture, makeup, clothing, hair/hair textures, pose, light), takes so much less time? I changed the number in the swap thing for XP to 768. At I did a disk defrag yesterday or the day before and did Adware too. Does the amount of free space on the hard drive impact rendering time? I have a 40 gig hard drive and had 14.8 gigs of space left at that time. I've since burned off some files and deleted them from the computer and now have 19 gigs free space. I am trying to add some content (tubes) to my site, but at the rate of 3 hours per render, it's agonizing :( It's such a beautiful character too.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



MarkusVogt ( ) posted Fri, 15 July 2005 at 5:20 PM

Maybe the complex light setup could be a cause for the long time...rendering the shadow maps with a lot of lights could be very hard to compute... I dont know what youve selected in the rendering preferences. greetings markus


ynsaen ( ) posted Fri, 15 July 2005 at 5:30 PM

Get "STOMP" (do a search in the forum here for it) and run the meshes through it. Might help.

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


Mystic-Nights ( ) posted Fri, 15 July 2005 at 6:25 PM

Rendering times depend on the items you are using, such as resolution and polygons. What version of Poser are you using or is it Daz Studio. I think Poser 4 just uses CPU rendering. Looking at Posers website it looks like Poser 6 has has 2 render options the CPU (software) or OpenGL harware render. The OpenGL lets your video card do all the work and will render much faster. Daz Studio has both Software and OpenGL Hardware render options. Also rather than integrated graphics built into the motherboard it is better to have a seperate graphics card like nVidia or ATI Radeon.


Whimsical ( ) posted Fri, 15 July 2005 at 6:52 PM

Link to thread re STOMP: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=2228908 great little app..ran a couple of items thru it that Id given up on ever being able to use.. works a treat!


ynsaen ( ) posted Fri, 15 July 2005 at 7:36 PM

P6 only has Software rendering. The preview window uses OpenGL.

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


blonderella ( ) posted Fri, 15 July 2005 at 8:34 PM · edited Fri, 15 July 2005 at 8:37 PM

Acadia...a day or two ago I was trying to render a slightly complex and large (3000 x 2650) scene in Poser 5 Firefly: 3 little P3 Daz faeries, a unicorn, a fair few plants & grasses and a pond with surface reflection and a few water lillies and cat tails...after 58 hours plus "adding objects", I finally cancelled the frelling thing...I tried a few times before that, but didn't let it go that long before I cancelled for the same reason...I tried to render it in Daz Studio, and it took 8 hours 46 minutes...although I had the settings wrong for the reflection on the pond surface and that didn't render...soooo, I have no idea what was up Poser's butt...wish I did though, I'd love to render it in Poser, like I should be able to!

Message edited on: 07/15/2005 20:36

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Acadia ( ) posted Fri, 15 July 2005 at 8:41 PM

I use Poser 5, and the lighting I used is the same one that I usually use when I render tubes. I'll look at that "Stomp" thread. I downloaded Stomp, but have no clue how to work it. I read the "readme" and the "user guide" but there aren't any instructions that I can see, and I don't know what to do after importing the .obj file into the window area.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



Whimsical ( ) posted Fri, 15 July 2005 at 9:02 PM · edited Fri, 15 July 2005 at 9:11 PM

is a screen shot there of the settings.. is a lot of posts there tho and i missed it the first time i read thru it :-)

what i did.. start up the application..

  1. Import mesh.. File > import mesh
    the object file in my case was the obj for a hair i had been having problems with..

2)Then export mesh.. File > export mesh
It will ask you what name you want to save the mesh as.. i saved it as the same name but simply added the letter 1 to it so i could find easily but distinguish it from the original.. you will then get a box with export options

check the boxes for:
Export UV coordinates
Export Faces
Export group names
Export materials
Export Materials (*.mtl) file

and then on the right side pane.. make sure to check the radio button for the option Face Sorting - By Material!!!

and away you go :-)) cant include Spanki's screen shot for you coz am msg board illiterate and dont know how to insert images into posts :oS lol

Message edited on: 07/15/2005 21:11


Acadia ( ) posted Fri, 15 July 2005 at 9:56 PM

Thanks :) I had the object imported, but I thought it was like "The Tailor", where I had to do something to the file once it was imported, but I didn't know what, hehe. I've ran 4 .obj files through it and am off to try and render to see if it's any better. crosses fingers

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



Whimsical ( ) posted Fri, 15 July 2005 at 9:58 PM

Good luck.. hope it helps.. let us know how u go with it :-))


destro75 ( ) posted Fri, 15 July 2005 at 10:13 PM

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Acadia, and actually anyone else that cares to try it out... After your last render issue, I made some changes to a Python script I had been writing. What it does is tell you everything in your scene, and the options set for each. It gives details on lights and what sort of options are set for them. Also, figure parts in the scene. A bunch of other tidbits of info. Near the top of the script are instructions. You can change the value of some of the variables in the script to control your output. Basically, the script began as a way to render in a first pass with just shadows, then once with no shadows. I figured by doing this, I could save some time by just taking the 2 images and manually compositing in Photoshop. It doesn't particularly speed up the total render time, but it does seem to suck up less memory, I figure since it isn't painting so much with each render from the bucket. Speaking of which, though it does make it harder to cancel a render in progress, I have had quite a bit of success with a bucket size of 64. I know a lot of people are dropping to 32, but my system seems to prefer using the larger bucket. Anyway, if anyone wants to try out this script, I am welcome to feedback. You may notice that there are some notes about a "Pro" version. I am going to make it a better script, and I have done some research to make some big improvements. (Especially if my threading idea works out, but we will see.) Hope this helps! (P.S. You have to change the file extension from txt to py for it to work. The forum doesn't allow .py files to be posted.)


linkdink ( ) posted Sat, 16 July 2005 at 8:13 AM

destro, your script sounds very useful! thanks, I'll try it out.

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destro75 ( ) posted Sat, 16 July 2005 at 8:21 AM

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This version actually outputs to a file in the same directory as the images. It still shows the details in Poser, but now it also saves all of the info into the text file so you can view it later, and compare to others if you want. I really hope someone else finds this script useful. (Note: The initial options have changed slightly. The original only rendered the full view by default. This version only renders the Shadow Only, and the Color Only versions.)


destro75 ( ) posted Sat, 16 July 2005 at 8:27 AM

Argh, I just realized there is a small mistake in the documentation. To turn on any option, you should change it to 1. To turn off any option, set it to 0 (zero.) It says to change to 2 in the documentation. Sorry about that. Any updated scripts will show correctly.


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