The combination of user adjustable forum appearance and user adjustable reply formatting can obviously lead to a visual conflict (i.e. invisible or hard to read posts).

In about a third of the posts I have read since coming home from work, the member has chosen black text. Since I have chosen a dark forum background for eyestrain relief and image appreciation reasons, these posts are extremely difficult to read.

By the way, I was only being polite when I described this new toy as a "feature". It's a pointless gimmick, and a detriment to the Renderosity forums.

Bravo.

I personally think they should have settled on a single low-contrast default - and not allow change.

I know that sounds selfish, but you can't expect to have custom forums AND custom formatting and expect not to have problems - because it's just not going to happen.

I reckon they should throw together some FIXED forum colour-schemes and hold a poll for it.

Len.

Actually, most of my post above is virtually invisible to me (and all of Len's is). It's not that people are choosing black, it's the default.

That means nearly all posts will now be invisible to me unless I change back to the shitty corporate scheme.

Frack this.

You know what?

I reckon after they've ironed out the bugs, and got everything working in sync again - they will HAVE to lock R'osity to a single colour scheme (and the sooner they do it the better).

If they don't do this, no one is EVER going to be sure if their post is legible to others.

It's darn right stupidity to allow both custom background colour as well as custom text colour.  It should have been obvious, and they should have refused to implement it.

Not only that, I think it's really unprofessional looking.

A name as big as Renderosity ought to have it's 'own' colour-scheme - and stick to it.

For crying out loud, hold a poll, on say, 10 low-contrast colour-schemes and let the poll results decide the "Colours Of Renderosity"

Len. (Who has changed his text colour in order to help Peter)

Well, as I said in another post.. WHY on God's green earth choose black as font colour? It's the default. And by leaving it defauly, you ensure it's legible for all. Use colours to emphasize if you must, but don't change the colour of a whole post.

I think more than 50% of people here have a black or dark background. And we just can't read black-on-black posts.

If you prefer to read your text in another colour, please do so in the CSS.. that way you can have it your way, and the rest of us can read what you write :o)

And I still don't uinderstand why people change it to BLACK when black is the default...

A poll will always leave some people in the shitter. If blinding bright for some reason was the scheme to win.. what would the rest (and remembr it might be 49.9%) do?

Custom colours ensures that both prople who want to light up their room with the background, and people who prefer darker colours can both have it their way

QUOTE:

A poll will always leave some people in the shitter. If blinding bright for some reason was the scheme to win.. what would the rest (and remembr it might be 49.9%) do?

That's why I was careful to include the words "low-contrast" - it's the best compromise.

Also, at the risc of sounding arrogant to the readers here :

Renderosity WILL eventually lock their forum colour-sheme - just see if they don't 

Len.

Quote - Not only that, I think it's really unprofessional looking. A name as big as Renderosity ought to have it's 'own' colour-scheme - and stick to it.

?!?!?

Len, you pathetic, ongoing victim of corporatism, you! (Nectar, Nectar, I'll drive 10000 miles for my Nectar)

Look, I'm here for the content that appears on the site - information and art. I don't want what some arty-farty 'designer' thinks is best for me getting in the way of that. I don't want gimmicks and other distracting shite. I don't want a corporate identity blinding the frack out of me and giving me a fracking migraine (you can tell Battlestar Galactica was on tonight, can't you).

I can get that bollocks at DAZ/PoserPros.

The more this goes on the more I realise how important my personal colour scheme was to why I considered Renderosity home. It was an unobtrusive oasis where I could interact with others on my terms. Now it's like I've been forced to share a garish house with a bunch of chavs who keep coming into my room and tuning the radio to Chris Moyles.

I want to be able to choose how I see things. I do not want others, members or shopkeepers, forcing their shit on me.

What the fuck use is this to anyone?

OMFG

:b_funny:

 THAT WAS SO PRETTY - YOU BEAST!!!

Sorry, but no website will force me use a default color scheme that hurts my eyes just so they can have "corporate identity".

Right now I´m back to Firefox and have set it to OVERRIDE both their default color scheme as well as their microscopic font size.
And there is absolutely nothing they could do against it, so any "branding" they want to do can only be a "suggestion" anyway, which the user may or may not accept.

So while they can push their "corporate identity" on the newbies, the seasoned users will either override it anyway, or go to another board which offers him greater customizability.

stahlratte

LOW CONTRAST

"And by leaving it defauly, you ensure it's legible for all....

...And I still don't uinderstand why people change it to BLACK when black is the default."

TrekkieGrrrl, I'm leaving the font as default and my own posts are showing up unreadable to me in my preferred scheme (which I've been forced to stop using)!

BTW, I think your figures on forum appearance are way off. I don't think most people here (as in at Renderosity) have a clue that they are able to customise the forum appearance. How would they? The admin haven't told them. I'd bet most members are using the default and suffering it, perhaps thinking where to move to...

For get the itallics tags Peter - they don't work either anymore.

sings

"You fix one critic overehere and get a new one overthere,

the crowd is never happy so why should we even care?

Request one feature here, critisize it overthere,

now all the programmers, put ur hands in ur hair!

Happy happy joy joy, happy happy joy,

your work is never finished when you're building a new toy"

Ah well - gonna hit the sack now I think.

Before I do though, I just want to state the obvious here :

Custom backgrounds AND custom text colouring is just not going to work - one will have to go.

The only way to get round this problem (other than to disable custom backgrounds), is to design a set of preset colour-schemes that can be set from a drop-down menu.  BUT - you would also need to LIMIT the colours available for text (these colours should be limited to ones that can actually be SEEN on ALL available preset colour-schemes) - it really is THAT simple.

That way - you please those with over-sensitive retinas - as well as those that MUST be different in order to satisfy their mind.  And finally - it would still allow control over preventing Renderosity looking like some dipshit has raided the local ICI paint-mixer and threw it at the forums.

This is vile - period.

R'osity looks so very unprofessional like this - I'm sorry to see it.

Len ( BTW, I'm a great designer - and I'm real cheap)

PJF.. I'm using Firefox but I can't seem to find anywhere that lets me alter the appearance of the text/background.

I know how to do it in Opera, but.. where is it in Firefox?!

My first post  at community forum. 

I'm not  pleased.  Too much fluffy, not enough substance.  I vote clean the superfulous candy and toys out of the work room.  Let the avitar, font hungry, smiley tongue wagging, linked signatures  crowd visit any danged blog they want to and have at it with the wistles and bells.  Most  artist nuts are here way past their bed times and my eyes are bleeding already.  I've tired firefox fix posted and doesn't seem to want to stick for me. 

Trying to find and mark read post is a farce. 

I used to visit Bryce forum with a vengence to learn, learn, learn.  No one seems interested in 3d art anymore only trying to one upsmanship  with toys and complaints

Hey PJF, whats up? Been a long time.
Whats with this advisory shite folks? Do the new forums advise when someone swears? Oh my virgin ears..............how much more disneyfied can you get. This IS the internet isn't it? :)
I too hate the new theme. I know it's possible for multiple themes on PHP, PoserPro's have a couple you can choose from. Nice to see some things never change.

The only way to get round this problem (other than to disable custom backgrounds), is to design a set of preset colour-schemes that can be set from a drop-down menu.  BUT - you would also need to LIMIT the colours available for text (these colours should be limited to ones that can actually be SEEN on ALL available preset colour-schemes) - it really is THAT simple.

Ditto. I work alot of forum boards..and this is the option most use.

{Just noticed that whatever one copy/pastes, copies in that color..it doesn't default to black...thats pretty neat}

Yup - and this should have been obvious to any 'designer' that possesses common sense.

It's gonna be interesting to see how they tackle it.

Len.

Just testing another text colour idea.

BTW Len, I've now changed to a mid grey background to increase the chances of seeing both black and white text. This means your grey text has become nearly invisible. I'll have to recommend this colour scheme to draculaz. ;-)

Testing default text input via firefox.

Aha...
 
default (automatic colour) text input via Firefox shows up in my preferred font colour. default text input via Internet Explorer shows up black.

Also, I can have one line directly under...
...another after a carriage return.

And maybe... italics?

Oh yes.
Looks like the programmers are testing under Firefox and not the most common browser on the planet. Makes sense...

Lesson 1: test on both iexplorer and mozilla! lol

QUOTE:

BTW Len, I've now changed to a mid grey background to increase the chances of seeing both black and white text. This means your grey text has become nearly invisible. I'll have to recommend this colour scheme to draculaz. ;-)

LOL

Hey Peter - how did you get itallics?

Len.

 (Tell me or I'll crush your HobNobs)

Ah so THAT is why my text comes up in proper white. I had a suspicion that IE played a role in this. I'm glad to see it verified! Thanks!

Italics work fine in Firefox...

Nevermind - just re-read your post - lol

Quote - Hey Peter - how did you get itallics?

In order to get italics, you have to be able to spell them correctly. ;-)

Ooh, and rather splendidly, my mid-grey background doesn't show up in Firefox - so Len's posts are back to being invisible. This is fun.

BTW - I hope Internet-Explorer users aren't going to have to be left with these stupid paragraph thingies between every line - it's really doing my head in.

That, and the fact that my itallics are still pointing North as opposed to North-East.

And no, don't anyone tell me to use a different browser 'cos I won't - I use IE - and I'm sticking to it.

Len.

F U MISTA PERFEKT SPELER - WOTS RONG WIV MY SPELIN ?