Yes, I know, you all probally hate me by now considering the amount of help I keep asking for. I apologies and I do look at other sources for information, but it's kind of hard to find anything that I need.

Okay....problem number 1. I'm looking for the FRAD's Lexi Body, I have no idea where it is (example in http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2747364)

Problem 2: With V4. While I love V4, i find that if i edit her body in any way (e.g. make things bigger or smaller, in my case bigger), the clothing doesn't fit. is there any way to solve that? (example is here of a figure in which clothing doesn't fit http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1729106 warning, nudity)

Thanks in advanced,

~Hutton~

Attached Link: Lexi

Lexi is at the link :-)

It is 3:15 am here so I am letting someone else handle your clothing question LOL.

-Sarah

lol, thanks, that gave me a laugh. and yeah, I can understand why :p

~Hutton~

Hi Hutton!
It would be good to see an example of how the clothing you are using does not fit on the figure you are using. Naked doesn't show that!

In the absence of an example... and assuming you are talking about conforming clothing... the simple answer is this:

Conforming clothing for V4 will fit V4 in her basic shape. When you adjust her body shape, the clothes will adjust accurately if you only use the V4 morphs that the clothes vendor has built into the clothes product. As soon as you start to make adjustments to V4 using morphs that the clothes vendor has not accounted for, then the clothes will not follow the changes and they will no longer fit.

There are ways to make clothing adjust to V4 morphs that the clothes vendor does not build in, using magnets or programs like Wardrobe Wizard. I don't really get into that, so others can help you if you want to know more about that.

There is one other thing to be aware of, even if your morphing clothes fit well. V4 has so-called Joint Control Morphs (JCMs), which change the shape of certain parts of her body when you move her joints. For example, lift her arm from the shoulder, and her breast will lift slightly. This will also produce clothing 'poke-through' very often.

There are two easy ways to eliminate JCM poke-through. Firstly, by using the 'Magnetise clothing to V4' pose on the affected clothing part. (For your first, or only, V4 in the scene, use the first 'Magnetise' pose). If that does not completely eliminate it, then you can reduce the JCM effect by turning down V4's 'Base - Strength' dial to something less than zero. Confusingly, zero on this dial gives full JCM effects, and -1 cancels out the JCM effects completely.

Hope this helps a little!
Izi

I am afraid I need to ask for a translation here. I don't understand anything you just said. I tried fiddeling to see if I could figure it out but I couldn't

I'll upload a sample image soon

~Hutton~

Here it is

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5411/notworkingpk9.png

Attached Link: Dr Geep's Poser University

Hmmm...  it's not really a question of translation. If you do not understand some of the terms I used above (morphs? conforming?) I think you probably need a more basic introduction on using Poser and V4 and clothing. Then the guidance I gave should mean something to you.

A quick search in the Rendo tutorials failed to find a beginner tutorial on using conforming clothes (as opposed to creating or converting them), so I can understand your difficulty there.

No problem... a good place to start (and carry on) learning is Dr Geep's Poser University (see above link). 

If you have specific questions on things in those tutorials, you can always come back to this forum and ask (never apologise for asking!) and someone will try to answer them. But there is no substitute for following through tutorials and trying it out as you go along.

Good luck!
:O)
Izi

PS: in the meantime, we can look at your screenshot, and try to explain what you can do!

Screenshot is above. And it's not conforming and morphs that confused me lol, I understand them. I didnt understand about Joint Morph Controls, nor did I know anything about Wardrobe Wizard (which you mentioned)

No problem, I don't use WW myself, I just know it's out there and (sort of) what it does. JCMs are built into V4's geometry, and you will see what they do later. We need to stay simple at this stage.

I see from your screenshot that you are trying the V4 Basic Wear... a good place to start.

To get the clothing to change as you change V4's shape, this is what you need to do... I don't know what you actually did, so I'll go through it all from step 1.

1. Load V4 into an empty scene. Don't move her or pose her or change her shape yet.
2. Load the Bikini bottom, then click Figure -> Conform to... -> select Victoria4 -> click OK.
3. Load the Sports bra, then click Figure -> Conform to... -> select Victoria4 -> click OK.
4. Make sure that Victoria4's Body is selected, and on the Parameter dials, apply a Full Body Morph such as BodyBuilder (see attached screenshot). You should see the clothes change shape with her body. If it doesn't work first time, return the morph dial to zero, delete the offending clothing part and try loading it again.
5. Once that is okay, you can go ahead and shape her body, and pose her, and the clothes will (more or less) follow. With some poses, for example arms raised up, you will get some poke-through (in this case on the breasts). That's to do with those JCMs - and that will be the start of the next lesson!

Let me know how you get on...
Izi

Here is what happens if you raise V4's arms up. Her breasts start to poke through the bra. That's caused by the Joint Control Morphs (JCMs). In this case, a raised arm uses a JCM to pull up her breast in a natural way that follows the arm movement, but the clothes cannot follow those changes.

I'll post an explanation of how to fix this a little later.

The first method of fixing JCM poke-through (and usually the only thing you need to do) is to use the !Magnetise to V4 pose in your Poses library - see screenshot. Select the Bra, apply the !Magnetise to V4 pose, and voila! (Sorry, I don't do accents on my French words).

By the way, the multiple !Magnetise to V4 poses are required by Poser if you have more than one Victoria4 figure in your scene. There is a separate pose for each additional figure, named Victoria4 1 to Victoria4 9.

Izi

The second method of fixing JCM poke-through is to stop the JCMs doing what they are supposed to do.

On V4, there is a dial called Deformers -> Strength. On V4.2 it is called Base -> Strength. This is usually set to zero, but setting it to -1 completely cancels out the JCM effects (also known as Deformers).

The image shows V4 with her arms up as before, but this time I cancelled out the JCMs instead of magnetising the clothing, so her breasts did not move with her arms.

:O)
Izi

Quote - Here is what happens if you raise V4's arms up. Her breasts start to poke through the bra. That's caused by the Joint Control Morphs (JCMs).

I think that Victoria 4 actually uses joint control magnets instead of morphs.  The advantage of using magnets is that you can use the same magnets to deform conformed figure (i.e., clothes) as well Victoria 4.  That’s why you use magnetize poses to make the clothes be deformed by the same magnets that are on Victoria 4. 

Victoria 3 used Joint Controled Morphs which required her clothes to have matching JCMs to fit in some poses.

Thanks everyone, and particuarly you Izi, this is a great help

~Hutton~

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2747514

A slight but possibly significant correction to my procedure above for loading conforming clothes:-

When loading conforming clothes, make sure you select V4's body again before loading each item. See the second entry in the above thread for advice on this.

Thanks for the info, chris. JCMagnets, not JCMorphs. I get a bit confused by all these acronyms.