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Subject: Soap bubble material for Vue


ddaydreams ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 1:17 AM · edited Mon, 18 November 2024 at 10:16 PM

Hi

I need help finding a free soap bubble material for Vue 8 Complete.

I modeled a bubble wand and made a sky I like. I'm doing a scene with just a sky and a view of a close up bubblewand as if I'm blowing bubbles through it.

I tried messing with various glasses but nothing looks right yet for the bubble material.
Anyone got a link to a free soap bubble material for Vue?
Possibly with a bit of iridescence in it.?

Thanks
Frank

Frank Hawkins/Owner/DigitalDaydreams

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Frank Lee Hawkins Eastern Sierra Gallery Store

 

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ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 3:24 AM
Rutra ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 3:55 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1978818

Do you like my bubbles in this image I posted a few days ago?

This is done by attaching a "rainbow" like color map to the highlights channel. The color map is driven by an "angle of incidence" node. The sphere is made 85% transparent, 15% reflective.


ddaydreams ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 10:29 AM

Shawn
Yes that's just what I had in mind. Can you post a link to the mat or should I IM you with my email?

Rutra
What was the base material you started with?
I saw your image as soon as you posted it because you are on my favorite artist list. It's that image that got me thinking about doing the image I'm working on.

Thanks
Frank

Frank Hawkins/Owner/DigitalDaydreams

Frank_Hawkins_Design

Frank Lee Hawkins Eastern Sierra Gallery Store

 

My U.S.A eBay Graphics Software Store~~ My International eBay Graphics Software Store

 


Rutra ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 10:38 AM

Quote - "What was the base material you started with?"

Plain white. The material is really simple. Color is plain white, transparency is 85%, reflectivity is 15% and the highlights have what I described. Everything else is just the default.
Maybe I should have also increased the slider of color transmitted light so that the shadows are colorful too but I couldn't find any reference photo where I could see shadows of bubbles and so I wasn't sure if the shadows are colorful or not.

I'm glad that my image inspired you. :-)


ddaydreams ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 3:44 PM

Quote -

This is done by attaching a "rainbow" like color map to the highlights channel. The color map is driven by an "angle of incidence" node.

I don't know how to attach a Rainbow like color map to the highlights channel. I'm not sure if that can be done in the basic material editor or if I would need the FE.  But if I could figure out how to do that in the basic material editor, I could then probably handle adding an angle of incidence node in the FE.

Frank Hawkins/Owner/DigitalDaydreams

Frank_Hawkins_Design

Frank Lee Hawkins Eastern Sierra Gallery Store

 

My U.S.A eBay Graphics Software Store~~ My International eBay Graphics Software Store

 


Rutra ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 4:04 PM

file_443865.jpg

Quote - "*I don't know how to attach a Rainbow like color map to the highlights channel. I'm not sure if that can be done in the basic material editor or if I would need the FE.  But if I could figure out how to do that in the basic material editor, I could then probably handle adding an angle of incidence node in the FE.*"

Yes, it must be in the FE. See the image, I hope it becomes clear. You can use other color maps, of course, this is just one of the Vue default ones (it's in Terrain editor maps, it's called "engineer").


ArtPearl ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 4:17 PM

file_443868.jpg

Bubbles are so fascinating...but we arnt always attracted to the same features of bubbles. Artur's bubbles are so serene! I like them a bit jazzy - I like the swirly color patterns in particular. So here is my version of a bubble. I'll add the material and a screen shoot of the function editor in the next posts.

"I paint that which comes from the imagination or from dreams, or from an unconscious drive. I photograph the things that I do not wish to paint, the things which already have an existence."
Man Ray, modernist painter
http://artpearl.redbubble.com/


ArtPearl ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 4:19 PM

file_443869.txt

Attached is the mat, download it rename it to omit the '.txt', and apply to your bubble sphere.

"I paint that which comes from the imagination or from dreams, or from an unconscious drive. I photograph the things that I do not wish to paint, the things which already have an existence."
Man Ray, modernist painter
http://artpearl.redbubble.com/


ArtPearl ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 4:30 PM

file_443871.jpg

This is a screen capture of the fe if you want to adjust some aspects. The pattern of colors is controlled by a prelin noise node and a turbulence node to get the swirly characteristic. The colors in use are defined in the color map (and can be edited to your liking).  In my mat the mapping is world-standard which means every bubble will have a different distribution of colors/patterns. If you want all bubbles to have the same pattern you need to change it to object parametric (some adjustments to the details may be needed).

Like Artur I used transparency/reflection of 85/15, but my highlights are only approx 50%.

"I paint that which comes from the imagination or from dreams, or from an unconscious drive. I photograph the things that I do not wish to paint, the things which already have an existence."
Man Ray, modernist painter
http://artpearl.redbubble.com/


ddaydreams ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 4:51 PM

Thanks much for the help. I'll play around in the FE later today,gone until later.

I'm hoping that Shawn can chime in here to .
I wanted to see if he can post his mat file just to see the different approach to doing this in the FE.

I notice Rutra is an angle of incidence  node connected to Highlight.

And Artpearl is another node attached to the color map.

Looks like there's lots of ways to do this. Cool.
I like to dig into a file and tweak parameters and swap thing around to see whats going on.

Thanks for the screen shots

Frank Hawkins/Owner/DigitalDaydreams

Frank_Hawkins_Design

Frank Lee Hawkins Eastern Sierra Gallery Store

 

My U.S.A eBay Graphics Software Store~~ My International eBay Graphics Software Store

 


Rutra ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 4:53 PM

Quote - "*I notice Rutra is an angle of incidence  node connected to Highlight.

And Artpearl is another node attached to the color map.*"

It could be interesting to see both effects combined together... :-)


ArtPearl ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 5:23 PM · edited Sat, 28 November 2009 at 5:25 PM

Oh something else - I have enabled the colored shadows as well, I'm pretty sure bubbles do that.
I enabled dispersion in the transparency tab(see my previous post), and set 'color transmitted light' to 12% in the effects tab, and 'compute physically accurate caustics' in the render settings.

Another aspect of bubbles is that they lose their colors the thinner they get, just before they burst. Because of gravity the top of the bubble gets thinner  first, so it would be nice to try and emulate that- colors at the bottom but no colors disappearing from the top. I've started doing it but run out of patience - perhaps tomorrow.

And we havnt even touched on the subject of distorted bubbles, particularly when attached to the blowing gadget or just detached, and for very big bubbles.

Fun!

"I paint that which comes from the imagination or from dreams, or from an unconscious drive. I photograph the things that I do not wish to paint, the things which already have an existence."
Man Ray, modernist painter
http://artpearl.redbubble.com/


ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 7:22 PM

file_443880.jpg

I used this color map.

www.youtube.com/user/ShawnDriscollCG


ArtPearl ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 7:22 PM

Attached Link: Photos of Bubbles

file_443879.jpg

The material now has 3 layers: 1. transparent(bottom layer) 2. colored(middle layer ), altitude range -1 to 0.25(environment tab) 3. Black and white(top layer), altitude range 0.25 to 1.

(Probably could be done with mixed materials too)

For comparison see the link above (and the other photos there too- amazing!)

"I paint that which comes from the imagination or from dreams, or from an unconscious drive. I photograph the things that I do not wish to paint, the things which already have an existence."
Man Ray, modernist painter
http://artpearl.redbubble.com/


ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Sat, 28 November 2009 at 7:22 PM · edited Sat, 28 November 2009 at 7:29 PM

file_443881.jpg

And used this noise node.

Highlight Color was white.
Highlight global intensity was 100%
And Highlight global size was 100% Shiny

Global Transparency was 79%.

Global reflectivity was 16%.

www.youtube.com/user/ShawnDriscollCG


ddaydreams ( ) posted Sun, 29 November 2009 at 8:51 PM · edited Sun, 29 November 2009 at 8:53 PM

Attached Link: Iridescent Meandering

file_443917.jpg

Thank to all for the help. I have placed this image in my gallery with a link her to bigger image.

I had some time to learn a little about Vue.
Sometimes I get an image idea and I just can't get it out into world as I would like.
I just can't seem to reproduce what I had in mind.

But with Vue and much help from good people willing to help me though the process I was able to get as close a possible to what I had in mind. It's just a simple image but it took me 20 hours to work on to get it the way I want.

A few weeks back I learned how to do iridescent clouds then over the last week iridescent soap bubbles.

Again thanks for the help. I would still be working on it if not for the help.

Frank

Frank Hawkins/Owner/DigitalDaydreams

Frank_Hawkins_Design

Frank Lee Hawkins Eastern Sierra Gallery Store

 

My U.S.A eBay Graphics Software Store~~ My International eBay Graphics Software Store

 


ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Sun, 29 November 2009 at 9:03 PM
Rutra ( ) posted Mon, 30 November 2009 at 3:06 AM

Yes, very good! The clouds and bubbles go wonderfully together.


ArtPearl ( ) posted Mon, 30 November 2009 at 8:50 AM

Soft and harmonious- quite pleasant image. Very different from the other images in your gallery which have strong colors and contrasts and dramatic compositional motion.
So what did you end up using for the bubbles' material?
Thanks for posting the result - always nice to see where the suggestions led.

"I paint that which comes from the imagination or from dreams, or from an unconscious drive. I photograph the things that I do not wish to paint, the things which already have an existence."
Man Ray, modernist painter
http://artpearl.redbubble.com/


ddaydreams ( ) posted Mon, 30 November 2009 at 7:12 PM

Artpearl said

Quote -
So what did you end up using for the bubbles' material?

I used your material with the following mods.

I changed color map to the lighter version of the rainbow.

On the advanced turb node I changed amplitude and largest feature.

With noise node I used Water(calm setting)and messed with the scale.

I need to look at some more Geekatplay tuts to learn more of the FE.

Geekatplay.com will soon be posting a soap bubble tut also. I had ask them about a soap bubble mat  that they are selling in one of their packs and they said they would post a tut soon on how they made that. Pretty cool of them to.

Again thanks for help to all.

Frank Hawkins/Owner/DigitalDaydreams

Frank_Hawkins_Design

Frank Lee Hawkins Eastern Sierra Gallery Store

 

My U.S.A eBay Graphics Software Store~~ My International eBay Graphics Software Store

 


ddaydreams ( ) posted Thu, 10 December 2009 at 11:55 PM

Attached Link: Bubbles tutorial

Here's the free geekatplay.com bubbles tutorial video I mentioned.

Frank Hawkins/Owner/DigitalDaydreams

Frank_Hawkins_Design

Frank Lee Hawkins Eastern Sierra Gallery Store

 

My U.S.A eBay Graphics Software Store~~ My International eBay Graphics Software Store

 


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