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Subject: From Poser 4 --> Poser 2010 (info request)


ChuckEvans ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2011 at 10:08 AM · edited Wed, 07 August 2024 at 9:59 PM

Yes, there are some of us still out there...le sigh...

I've searched but can't quite find what I'm looking for so any helpful replies appreciated. :)

I have tons (TONS) of content bought during Poser 4 times, you know, with the texture maps that have to be converted from JPG (if you didn't have Pro).  And I upgraded to 6 some time back but there were problems with memory reading the old texture files--too big or something--so I left it to die.

If I get PoserPro 2010 (is that the correct name?), will I be able to use all that content with the old texture maps (instead of the newer, I think, procedural ones that have become a bit more prevalent) running on a Win 7 / 64 bit Home Premium system?

Sorry if my references are in error...I'm not much of a genius at these things...

Thanks in advance for the pros and cons of such a move and what one might expect. :)


LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2011 at 10:21 AM

Everything should still work, but the textures might not be what you'd expect. They'll have to be optimized for PoserPro 2010 ;o). Poser 4 had a very simple node setup: IIRC, only specular, reflection, bump and diffuse (it's been a long while...lol). The materials have been greatly expanded as has the lighting.

What are your system specs? Processor, RAM, etc?

Laurie



ChuckEvans ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2011 at 10:35 AM

Thanks, Laurie.  :)

I built my new machine, so it's a mixture. For reference, though, it has 16GB of 1600 speed RAM, solid state C drive (for system/programs) on my SATA 3 port, ATI Radeon 5800 series graphics card (can't remember if it's a 5870 or 5890), Intel i7 CPU 860 @ 2.80GHz, and 27 in. monitor driven at 2560 x 1440.  And as I said before, Win 7 / 64 bit OS Home Premium.

So, when you say the need to be optimized (with your follow-on explanation), I'm guessing it's not some sort of process one can run the textures through in the newer version... Maybe that's why I ran into threads with "how to get a Poser 4 perfect render out of 2010" theme...

I would try, I suppose, loading Poser 4 on my current OS and see what happens BUT I only see one thread talking of success getting it running (but with some display glitches) and that person gave up and bought 2010. I haven't loaded it because I hate the thought of "muddying up my system" with a program install that's ultimately not going to work and then I have all that extraneous stuff cluttering up my register and program files.

Thanks again for your help, Laurie. :)


LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2011 at 10:49 AM · edited Tue, 11 January 2011 at 10:49 AM

Well, your system certainly has plenty of muscle ;o).

As for the materials/textures, there is a script I think to at least set the correct gamma in the materials, which I'm not sure is needed for Pro since I only have Poser 8 vanilla. Pro has GC in the renderer whereas Poser 8 users need to correct it in the materials.

Laurie



ChuckEvans ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2011 at 10:51 AM

Thanks for the reply, Laurie.  (and enjoy the snow...we're sure "paralyzed" here in Atlanta from it...)


LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2011 at 10:55 AM · edited Tue, 11 January 2011 at 10:56 AM

Quote - Thanks for the reply, Laurie.  (and enjoy the snow...we're sure "paralyzed" here in Atlanta from it...)

Where I live, they're only calling for 3 to 5 inches. I have my fingers and toes crossed...lolol. As for getting Poser 4 to run on your Windows 7/64 bit OS...I doubt it. But good luck ;o).

Laurie



patorak3d ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2011 at 1:02 PM

Where I live, they're only calling for 3 to 5 inches.

Where getting the same.  i think the snow brought down our phone lines.  Called 2 hrs ago and kept gettin' a busy signal.

 

 


AnAardvark ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2011 at 2:21 PM

Quote - Well, your system certainly has plenty of muscle ;o).

As for the materials/textures, there is a script I think to at least set the correct gamma in the materials, which I'm not sure is needed for Pro since I only have Poser 8 vanilla. Pro has GC in the renderer whereas Poser 8 users need to correct it in the materials.

Laurie

You still need it for Poser Pro 2010 because, unless you tell it, it will anti-gamma correct all textures (including transparency, bump, and displacement). You actually only want the diffuse and specular anti-gamma corrected.


AnAardvark ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2011 at 2:22 PM

Quote - Everything should still work, but the textures might not be what you'd expect. They'll have to be optimized for PoserPro 2010 ;o). Poser 4 had a very simple node setup: IIRC, only specular, reflection, bump and diffuse (it's been a long while...lol). The materials have been greatly expanded as has the lighting.

Although P4 textures look really good in Poser Pro 2010 if you use IDL and gamma correction.


ChuckEvans ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2011 at 2:43 PM

Thanks, "vark" (grin). Is this from personal experience or "heresay" (as they say in court)?


hborre ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2011 at 4:01 PM

Well known documented fact.  Gamma correction was introduced in PoserPro, and continues to be a strong point in the Pro series of the application.  However, upgrading from P4 to the "Pros" will require special attention to how node maps are set up and how you light your scene.  In essense, you will need to unlearn many things picked up through P4 and relearn them when using PP 2010.


ChuckEvans ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2011 at 5:22 PM

Quote - Well known documented fact.  Gamma correction was introduced in PoserPro, and continues to be a strong point in the Pro series of the application.  However, upgrading from P4 to the "Pros" will require special attention to how node maps are set up and how you light your scene.  In essense, you will need to unlearn many things picked up through P4 and relearn them when using PP 2010.

Thanks for the reply.

Yeah, I think I read that somewhere else when I was doing my searches (though I think it was comparing P8 to Pro).


ratscloset ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2011 at 9:26 PM

You need Poser 6 or later to qualify for the Sidegrade Price to Poser Pro 2010. You would be better off Upgrading to Poser 8, then Sidegrading to Poser Pro 2010.

ratscloset
aka John


ChuckEvans ( ) posted Tue, 11 January 2011 at 10:00 PM

Quote - You need Poser 6 or later to qualify for the Sidegrade Price to Poser Pro 2010. You would be better off Upgrading to Poser 8, then Sidegrading to Poser Pro 2010.

Thanks for the reply, John. :)

If I understand correctly, you missed the remark where I mentioned I own P6 (but didn't "get along with it" very well). So, assuming I misunderstood your remark, are you saying I should NOT sidegrade to P2010?  It's $249.


corinthianscori ( ) posted Wed, 12 January 2011 at 1:21 PM

Smeh. I still use Poser 6 - buggy little thing. I don't see anything special about Poser Pro - it's for content creators, BTW. Just go for Poser 8. Unless you're doing massively intricate renders or releasing Poser content to the public you don't even NEED Poser Pro por nadda.

Meanwhile, a whopping 1 inch here in the D.C. area! DC/MD/VA is mostly swamp land so storms don't do so well around here.


ChuckEvans ( ) posted Wed, 12 January 2011 at 2:33 PM

Quote - Smeh. I still use Poser 6 - buggy little thing. I don't see anything special about Poser Pro - it's for content creators, BTW. Just go for Poser 8. Unless you're doing massively intricate renders or releasing Poser content to the public you don't even NEED Poser Pro por nadda.

Meanwhile, a whopping 1 inch here in the D.C. area! DC/MD/VA is mostly swamp land so storms don't do so well around here.

Thanks for the reply.

I thought about P8 but already worried enough that P2010 is out of date about a year. P8 has been out, what, year and a half? 

Also, though it's not clear just what it is, there should be some enhancements in content management (which I assume is helpful to me as an owner of a lot).

And I could be wrong but isn't this the first version that takes advantage of 64 bit OS? 


ratscloset ( ) posted Wed, 12 January 2011 at 3:08 PM

Quote - > Quote - You need Poser 6 or later to qualify for the Sidegrade Price to Poser Pro 2010. You would be better off Upgrading to Poser 8, then Sidegrading to Poser Pro 2010.

Thanks for the reply, John. :)

If I understand correctly, you missed the remark where I mentioned I own P6 (but didn't "get along with it" very well). So, assuming I misunderstood your remark, are you saying I should NOT sidegrade to P2010?  It's $249.

 

Misunderstood.. thought you tried and returned...

ratscloset
aka John


SteveJax ( ) posted Wed, 12 January 2011 at 3:36 PM

Poser Pro for GC & 64 bit support is not just for content creators.


ChuckEvans ( ) posted Wed, 12 January 2011 at 3:56 PM

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - You need Poser 6 or later to qualify for the Sidegrade Price to Poser Pro 2010. You would be better off Upgrading to Poser 8, then Sidegrading to Poser Pro 2010.

Thanks for the reply, John. :)

If I understand correctly, you missed the remark where I mentioned I own P6 (but didn't "get along with it" very well). So, assuming I misunderstood your remark, are you saying I should NOT sidegrade to P2010?  It's $249.

Misunderstood.. thought you tried and returned...

No harm/no foul.  :-)

I actually had to go back and look myself because I'm THAT daft sometimes. wink


ChuckEvans ( ) posted Wed, 12 January 2011 at 3:58 PM

Quote - Poser Pro for GC & 64 bit support is not just for content creators.

Ah, yes, had forgotten that "plus" as well when I was thinking about P8 and P2010.


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