I've been following a "nameless" vendor's product development for a character names Lali as he worked on solving V4's bending problem - very interesting process and with impressive results.

The morphs and associated prop have produced a very realistic and unique V4 based character that appears to bend extremely well. The process of morph injection and getting eveything to work looks quite complicated though.

It's adult oriented so no links, you'll have to Google "Lali" or "Lali's bits" for yourself. And better not to post pictures - just opinions on the character, prop and the development process.

Googling "Lali" turned up nothing for me about a V4 character morph, just a bunch of pictures of Hindu women...

Nevermind, I found it. A lot of work there. Don't think I would ever need something like that, but it's kind of nice to know it's out there.

I found it, "Erogenesis - Lali Bits v1" in Google brings it up in the first few links. This is the first I've heard of it. It seems the character is now for sale. At the big Adult Poser Gallery web sites' store. The picture of her bends look impressive. I also am currious of opinions on this character and such like ashley9803 is.

I bought Lali Bits as soon as it hit the store. It's

one super great creation and fun to use. I recommend

any one who wants to work on the adult side of

poser get this product. Very easy to use,looks good

to.

The bending seems to have little distortion, very natural - not that I've seen people actually bend like that - but I know base V4 could never do that.

The guy apparently spent many months working out how to get the morphs to work. Weather or not they work as good as the pictures suggest is another matter.

Edit - crosspost - good to know they're easy to use.

This appears to solve the problem that adult content producers were complaining about over at DAZ: that neither V4's nor V5's genitals end up in a realistic position when she's bent over.

I don't think there will ever be a character, not

yet anyway to be like a real woman when she

bends like that. Hard to match the Big Man upstairs.

I asked a few lady friends to show me that shot

and I thank no two female bottoms ever look the

same. This product is very close and fun to play with. 

Great product.

More realistic than Daz or Smithmicro never do, they dont know genital parts.

But not for renderosity gallery ;)

Well, you can use the upper half of her...

If someone is interested, in that other market named similar to Rende... rosity it's already there. 

:rolleyes:  

you can actually type the name of the site you know - RENDEROTICA DOT COM - you just can't link to it

Who would want to rend erotica?  Or is that erotica based on rending things?

scared

Ah! Her snozzberries look like real snozzberries :)

As well as Lali's obvious attrubutes, I'm equally attracted to her unique face and her body proportions very unlike you'll see in 99% of the gallery.

Sozzberries?........Don't care how...I want her now. Better save up my pennies.

Since some asked for opinions.

Erogenesis a talented CGI Artist.
Erogenesis has my respect for his skills n talent.
With out a doubt a killer V4 morph.

Since Erogenesis was extremely limited to the confounds of V4 ,
it's sad knowing well never see what Erogenesis could have really done without being restricted to V4.

I wish there was a way to make your own characters and have all the runtime cloths work with them.

Quote - you can actually type the name of the site you know - RENDEROTICA DOT COM - you just can't link to it

Actually I'm aware of this, but I like to play with words and say something without saying it really. :biggrin:

There's a nudity flag on this topic, but I see no nudity, nor any images at all for that matter; is this another Forum Glitch?

Perhaps it's because we laid bare the topic... :rolleyes: :lol: 

I flagged it from the start because of the subject matter and the likelihood that someone would want to post images....(of her snozzberries). Better safe than sorry.

I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything...

I bought it yesterday morning and have been playing around off and on.

It's actually a good bit more than just genital parts, and includes a comprehensive set of useful and fun morphs.
By turning off the whole system under Master Control, and rescaling the gen prop, I was even able to get it working with the Perfect morphs and also V4WM.
It adds a lot to the size of the cr2 when installed, bumping the size of my standard V4 to something like 163 meg with Morph++, Elite, S4, and some of the Aiko morphs installed.

The author's method of morph naming isn't for prudes, but I find it humorous. :)
Let me say I have nothing to do with the vender, just commenting on what I feel is a good product.
It is not a single click deal, one needs to be prepared to learn it.

Might nudge PoseidenTech's Misty aside for such things... Having looked at it and downloaded the, ummm, user manual it seems to be very well constructed. I don't think that I've ever made a pornographic render (a contentious term certainly) so the character's primary selling points would be of little use. I will say that the appearance and other morphs of the the character would definitely be worth the cost ($20) as she is very unique and definitely a collectable. Nice.

Lallie is damn impressive:) And for that price it is a steal. You can follow its develepment process here - erogenesis.blogspot. No nudity or anything, you are prompted with a notification before you enter.

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=97977

Quote - It's not my kind of thing, but it's very impressive. One thing I don't understand..... If someone spents so much time on creating all this as realistic as perhaps is possible for Poser, why not spent more time on the character itself to make that realistic as well? I did see the ads here for London yesterday and I must say she is very impressive as a character. Mix these two (if possible) and you'll end up with something very close to a real woman.

London or the whole Metropolitan collection are actually great textures and body morphs from what I understand.

PERFECT BODY injectors by Meipe just add poseable fixes to the crappy V4 mesh to make her pose more realistically clening up joints and adding extra body shaping morphs to fix toes, buttocks, arm pits, handes, legs etc which are indespinsible if you do glamor or pinup images.

Lali's Bits are primarily fixes concentrated around genitals, hip and buttocks for the most part.  Combining this set with those mentioned above and you woud indeed have a far better model than the out of the box V4.

but as was mentioned the size of the model would explode.

What I do then is add all this stuff to create a base model with all the morphs I could ever want to work with and save this more complete V4 to my preferred models folder and when i need all the special stuff I call it up, delete all the morph dials not needed for that particular project and get the rendering done. Of course this model is something erotica or fetish and pin-up artists alone would be interested in. but at least they have that option now of being able to use a more realistic V4.

The Metropolitan textures are wonderful and I really gotta get them. THanks for the mention.

You're welcome :biggrin:

"The author's method of morph naming isn't for prudes, but I find it humorous. :)"

Yeah, I was puzzling over what the difference was between the 'V' morphs and the 'P' morphs. I decided the latter must be external and the former internal. The combination of medical and vernacular terms is funny though. After just reading an article on the evolution of the 'C Word,' I figure he should have given a nod to Chaucer and thrown Quaint in there :-) * *

I learned thirty-five years ago that the only thing that annoys women more than the 'C Word' is card tricks.  So I don't do card tricks for them any more.

. . . hey, c'mon.  I was just being silly.

Quote - It's not my kind of thing, but it's very impressive. One thing I don't understand..... If someone spents so much time on creating all this as realistic as perhaps is possible for Poser, why not spent more time on the character itself to make that realistic as well? I did see the ads here for London yesterday and I must say she is very impressive as a character. Mix these two (if possible) and you'll end up with something very close to a real woman.

There's nothing in the world stopping anyone from doing that.

It is also what I have already done.

The Metropolitan London head is a bit too young looking for the rest of the body.  Maybe fine for alien use.

I tried typing it into a search-but had to keep my eyes shut while doing so is very difficult!

Quote - Who would want to rend erotica?  Or is that erotica based on rending things?

scared

Quote - The Metropolitan London head is a bit too young looking for the rest of the body.  Maybe fine for alien use.

Your Post made me think of Heavy Metal Magazine.
Heavy Metal Magazine one of the first if not the first adult graphic novels in the U.S.
There is or was a European version of Heavy Metal.
I think before the U.S.Heavy Metal.
Paolo Eleuteri Serpieri's Druuna. One of the most famous SciFi adult graphic novelist.
Lusi Royo One of the most famous Artist that can make balanced young laddies.
Royo's girls don't look like a young face on a mismatched body.
Don't know if Royo started the young face characters but since he's so famous.
Every one copy's what the famous one's do.

A lot of the best Artist have been associated with Heavy Metal.
A lot of what Artist learned is from Heavy Metal.
Heavy Metal's been around since before home PC's.

There's a lot of ratios to consider when making characters.
DAZ adult Characters always have a hug body and small head so they seem older.

I never looked at Heavy Metal very much though I did see the movie. IIRC, Serpieri's Druuna was more hardcore than HM. Years ago, someone had a freebie Druuna morph/outfit for Posette. From what I read, it sounds like the new Lara Croft Tombraider game may be a teensy bit Druunaesque - though in a non-sexual way of course - just darker and and grittier. I woudln't be surprised if someone will do some Poser homage that   may require the talents of the new figure. I think my Vickies are glad that decrepitude has taken me to cute toons and faeries - though they do look a bit bored at times …

There were artists doing female figures with young heads on mature bodies before there was any Heavy Metal magazine.  Heavy Metal was famous for using less clothing is all.

Back before the web ,AKA The stone age. For Artist there was comics like Marvel ,DC.
Then there was Heavy Metal.
If you wanted to make your own Art or comics about the only prayer in hell you had in the U.S. was Heavy Metal.

ShawnDriscoll :
I was not saying Heavy Metal made characters with young faces.
HM more like a host for Artist like Renderoisty host are CGI Art.
HM is one of the more famous SciFi comics.

Even thou Lusi Royo does make Art for HM .Royo's is not HM.
Lusi Royo's characters seem to be very well balanced
there body and faces seem to match better then most Artist.

RorrKonn,

I like how you make it sound like figure art didn't exist before Poser.

Besides Métal Hurlant (on which Heavy Metal was based), DC and Marvel there were a lot of comics released in the same time period which were much more popular with artists such as Jean-Claude Mézières, Willy Vandersteen, Morris, Hergé, Albert Uderzo, MIlo Manara, Guido Crepax, Hugo Pratt,Enki Bilal to name just a few. So hardly a stone age before the web

I did say "There is or wasa European version of Heavy Metal.
I think before the U.S.Heavy Metal."

I'm just talking about realistic style comics.not rated G.
Not talking about Archie or Jughead style comics.

Let me try this again.
Before the web.
In the U.S.A. If you lived in a small town.
about the only comics they had was Marvel ,DC ,Conan. Maybe a Heavy Metal ,maybe.
So if you wanted to learn about other Artist in the world.
That weren't rated G.
About all there was ,was Heavy Metal.
HM also had 3rd person comics in the back you could order.

Heavy Metal was the only portal I had to the out side world when I was a kid.

Quote - I did say "There is or wasa European version of Heavy Metal.
I think before the U.S.Heavy Metal."

I'm just talking about realistic style comics.not rated G.
Not talking about Archie or Jughead style comics.

Let me try this again.
Before the web.
In the U.S.A. If you lived in a small town.
about the only comics they had was Marvel ,DC ,Conan. Maybe a Heavy Metal ,maybe.
So if you wanted to learn about other Artist in the world.
That weren't rated G.
About all there was ,was Heavy Metal.
HM also had 3rd person comics in the back you could order.

Heavy Metal was the only portal I had to the out side world when I was a kid.
When I wasn't in Atlanta

I know nothing about small towns in the US.

I lived in a small town here in Holland and we had our own comics shop which had all types of comics. There were plenty of realistic non-G related comics and even publishers like Dargaud released lots of the more adult oriented comics. 

About the future of comics: I just got my copy of Anomaly. This looks like the future of comics. A printed book with a separate app for augmented reality to bring the figures to life and an interactive ebook/app which uses voice actors and brings additional details to the story.

But this getting a bit away from the original topic of this thread

"But this getting a bit away from the original topic of this thread"

Ah, the charm of thread drift.

I don't know what time frame we're talking about but there were also the 'underground' comics of the 60s-70s era maybe. Zap Comix or some such - The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers, Mr. Natural etc. While not comics, the National Lampoon had a few ongoing comic series. In the same vein, Playboy had Little Annie Fanny and Penthouse had Oh, Wicked Wanda.

My thread drifted LOL. I still have some of these comics I bought in Amsterdam in the 70's.

All are very un-PC, seditious, and some would be completely illegal to sell these days. Zippy the Pinhead, Hog of Steal, Captain Piss-Gums and his Pervert Pirates and Angelfood McSpade would send today's publishers and their lawyers running for the hills. The seventies were an an amazing period of libertarianism sandwiched between pre and post periods of enforced morality. We won't see anything like those years again. But I wuz there, and amazingly still remember it.

Egads, I only saw a couple of issues, but I remember the Captain. Since they were B&W, they never seemed comic-like to me, so not much interest - same for the Japanese manga.

The pendulum swings back and forth in the US, but I agree its doubtful that most of us will live to see it swing back there again. It may happen at some point with the right confluence of events who knows. I think/hope that people are beginning to see that the schtick of those who shall go unmentioned is as bad or worse than anything the 60s-70s spawned in most cases.  

Quote - The seventies were an an amazing period of libertarianism sandwiched between pre and post periods of enforced morality. We won't see anything like those years again. But I wuz there, and amazingly still remember it.

Indeed.  I was thinking about the 1976 movie 'Tunnel Vision" the other day, and happened to find it on You Tube.  A lot edgier than I recalled.  The Kentucky Fried Movie is another of that genre that wouldn't fly today....

What? no mention of Jean Giraud (aka.Moebius)... My favorites were always Moebius, Richard Corben, Milo Manara, Caz, and Enki Bilal. Throughout the 1980's Heavy Metal Magazine was the shit, probably because I was a teen/young adult. I think the quality of the magazine began to wane as the years went on. Definitely a seminal influence for me, though. Used to think that Serperei was pretty awesome but just had a look at some of his work and my opinion has mellowed with the years.

Underground Comix (Crumb, Williams, Wilson, Irons, etc.) are/were great, too. Funny that many of the marginalized by genre artists cited have gone on to be Heavy Hitters in the establishment/gallery Fine Art world.

Cheech Wizard! Talk to da hat. Surely a Cheech inspired universe would be healthier than GTA et al. Bodacious wood nymphys everywhere.

Hell, any kind of (well-made) video game inspired by the works of Vaugh Bode would be a godsend in my book :) Preferably an action/rpg - think Dragon's Dogma with a much lighter mood, and bongs, and gratuitous nudity.

LoL, I think we have a winner! Actually, I'm a bit surprised that no one has do a movie. Therre should be sa ready made market of boomer-stoners - premier it in Denver. I'd settle for a Poser Cheech. I think the rather bottom heavy Natu figure might serve as a basis for the nymphs.

Ohh! Good point. Not only am I keeping my eyes shut-now I too am frightened!

Quote - Who would want to rend erotica?  Or is that erotica based on rending things?

scared

Zippy the Pinhead! I remember seeing that in the local Santa Cruz "Good Times" paper when I was a student at UCSC. Funny stuff. I remember it being more surreal than "offensive."

Quote - My thread drifted LOL. I still have some of these comics I bought in Amsterdam in the 70's.

All are very un-PC, seditious, and some would be completely illegal to sell these days. Zippy the Pinhead, Hog of Steal, Captain Piss-Gums and his Pervert Pirates and Angelfood McSpade would send today's publishers and their lawyers running for the hills. The seventies were an an amazing period of libertarianism sandwiched between pre and post periods of enforced morality. We won't see anything like those years again. But I wuz there, and amazingly still remember it.