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Subject: Poser Pro 2014 and the DSON/Genesis


shannonsuzanne ( ) posted Sat, 08 June 2013 at 4:34 PM · edited Mon, 11 November 2024 at 7:40 AM

So, apparently I own the fancy DSON thing.  Never really had need for it.  Totally uninstalled my DAZ stuff the other day that was for Genesis etc etc to make room for Pro 2014 and found out that DAZ updated their account page where I can actually FIND what I own.  I stumbled upon the importer and all the goodies trying to find all my K4 stuff.  

 

I installed it like the tutorial said, the script in 2014 area and then the stuff in the runtime I use for Genesis.  It shows up just fine in my library, but when I go to import Genesis or any genesis item like a shoe etc...it says it is loaded but it is not there in the preview.  I can't see it.  I know there has to be somebody that knows how to make this thing work.  Nothing I found addressess this problem.   I think I remember some weird thing from WW and a script and an admin issue.  I'm running Windows 7 Home Premious 64 bit and I do have Pro 2012 as an administrator I think....so any suggestions?

 

I just want to import some V5 clothes and use them on V4 LOL.   I know people are doing it, but I'm still stuck at the starting gate :) 


matrix03 ( ) posted Sat, 08 June 2013 at 5:15 PM

I have yet to use studio, but as for using V5 clothes and converting them for V4 I have read that is achievable with the new Fitting room feature in poser pro 2014.


hborre ( ) posted Sat, 08 June 2013 at 6:22 PM

FYI, just having admins privileges for Poser does not prevent UAC from interfering, especially if Poser and content are installed in Program Files.  You would need to specify installs to separate locations when initially installing Poser.


shannonsuzanne ( ) posted Sat, 08 June 2013 at 6:32 PM

I'm not sure why, but I went back and just reinstalled it and then in the "preferences" of the script I set the cache to the genesis folder and the other one about a writeable runtime to the runtime folder of Poser, something it did not tell me on my instructions.  Works just fine now.  Go figure.  I'm tickled now I can use all this stuff I had gotten for Genesis when it first came out.  Oh...the dread of downloading all that stuff.  


WandW ( ) posted Sat, 08 June 2013 at 7:03 PM

Quote - ... I'm tickled now I can use all this stuff I had gotten for Genesis when it first came out.  Oh...the dread of downloading all that stuff.  

 

DAZ Install Manager is your Friend.  Just add the directory where you installed the Genesis Starter Essentials and let it do the work... 😄

http://www.daz3d.com/install-manager-info

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JoePublic ( ) posted Sat, 08 June 2013 at 9:13 PM

Any review/experiences about Genesis in PP-2014 so far ?

How useable is a copy that was saved to the library as a "proper" cr2 so it doesn't have to be DSON imported everytime it is loaded ?

How well does it work with the new subdivision ?

Does the scaling now work by default ?

Cloth (re-)fit ?

Cloth conversion ?

I deleted anything Genesis to concentrate fully on Poser, but if there are serious improvements I might reconsider adding it to my workflow. If not for the humans, then definitely for the creatures and aliens and stuff.

Hmm, I could start my own thread, but I think I already filled my monthly quota of beeing a nuisance. :-o


flibbits ( ) posted Sat, 08 June 2013 at 9:55 PM

Can someone provide a clear, for dummies, explanation of this?  Let's say I want to use Genesis in Poser 2010 or Pro '14.  I want to morph to D5, use a character for D5, fit some clothes to him, clothe him.

Is it just a simple install and then DSON import?

Or is there more to it?



randym77 ( ) posted Sun, 09 June 2013 at 9:20 AM

Quote - I have yet to use studio, but as for using V5 clothes and converting them for V4 I have read that is achievable with the new Fitting room feature in poser pro 2014.

Interesting.  Do you need DSON to do this?


mackis3D ( ) posted Sun, 09 June 2013 at 9:51 AM

Quote - FYI, just having admins privileges for Poser does not prevent UAC from interfering, especially if Poser and content are installed in Program Files.

That was true for the version before Windows 7, I never worked with that and don't remember the name . But you can install everything in Windows 7 in Program Files and under Poser without having any problems. Works in my case with DSON, Reality and so on. The problem people have with installing DSON is that the DAZ installation guide is not very clear or not easy to understand. Especially the part that one has to link the empty libraries runtime in DAZ Studio (that DAZ creates itself) in Poser as a runtime. I mean it is empty if you put your converted Genesis stuff into the Poser runtime. There is no need for this empty library except that is needed for the process somehow.


flibbits ( ) posted Tue, 11 June 2013 at 1:55 PM

I guess there is no clear, for dummies explanation.



shannonsuzanne ( ) posted Tue, 11 June 2013 at 2:04 PM

Quote - I guess there is no clear, for dummies explanation.

You have to install the DSON and the starter files.  Then you have to install all the stuff you want to play with and the poser companion file. If there is no PC file it won't work in Poser.  The genesis classic they gave us the first year has no poser companion file so it doesn't work.  For me I got their install manager and did an install to a new runtime folder and just let the installer do all the heavy lifting.


mackis3D ( ) posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 4:21 AM

The classic stuff can be converted in DAZ Studio to create Poser companion files (*.duf).


shannonsuzanne ( ) posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 7:02 AM

Quote - The classic stuff can be converted in DAZ Studio to create Poser companion files (*.duf).

Don't know how to do that and I uninstalled studio :/  but good to know it can be done!


FutureFantasyDesign ( ) posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 2:15 PM

Shoot the more I read about 2014, the less likely I am to get it. Why make a product that sounds like you need to be a Programmer to work it?

*sigh

Ariana

Is there water in your future or is it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate weapon...

www.futurefantasydesign.com


WandW ( ) posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 2:32 PM

Quote - I guess there is no clear, for dummies explanation.

Been out of town...

http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/dson_importer/poser/userguide/start

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WandW ( ) posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 2:33 PM

Quote - > Quote - The classic stuff can be converted in DAZ Studio to create Poser companion files (*.duf).

Don't know how to do that and I uninstalled studio :/  but good to know it can be done!

http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/dson_importer/poser/userguide/dson_content_conversion/tutorials/creating_dson_companion_files/start

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The Wisdom of bagginsbill:

"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
bagginsbill's Free Stuff... https://web.archive.org/web/20201010171535/https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/Home


WandW ( ) posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 2:35 PM · edited Wed, 12 June 2013 at 2:37 PM

Quote - Shoot the more I read about 2014, the less likely I am to get it. Why make a product that sounds like you need to be a Programmer to work it?

 

?? 😕  The DSON Importer doesn't work any differently than in Poser 9, 10 or PP 2012...

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The Wisdom of bagginsbill:

"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
bagginsbill's Free Stuff... https://web.archive.org/web/20201010171535/https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/Home


shannonsuzanne ( ) posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 2:37 PM

Quote - Shoot the more I read about 2014, the less likely I am to get it. Why make a product that sounds like you need to be a Programmer to work it?

*sigh

Ariana

 

This is for the DAz Genesis.  Poser works just great for Poser things.  V4 and all your SM people.  This is to get the creepy blob from DAZ and use the clothes in Poser for which it was not built.  This is not a 2014 issue :)


FutureFantasyDesign ( ) posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 7:41 PM

Ahh! I have been looking at all posts, have no desire to use anthing daz except V4/M4/A4.... and gen 3.

HugZ!
Ariana

Is there water in your future or is it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate weapon...

www.futurefantasydesign.com


flibbits ( ) posted Thu, 13 June 2013 at 2:11 PM

I was able to install DSON (downloaded it back when it was free), install and load the Genesis essentials, install and load D5, install and load MATs, but morphs do nothing.



mackis3D ( ) posted Thu, 13 June 2013 at 2:39 PM

You clicked 'transfer morphs'? You found the morph settings? They often seem to be hidden, you have to click on 'Morphs' or 'Actor' above 'DZMeshSmoothModifier' to see them.


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