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Subject: Mouse scroll wheel increment settings... WHERE?


RobynsVeil ( ) posted Mon, 16 September 2019 at 12:39 AM · edited Sun, 24 November 2024 at 4:47 PM

I'm finally getting back into Blender (2.80, this time) and finding it all a bit of a new learning curve. In other words, they seemed to have moved the cheese. Now, I realise I can just have 2.80 emulate 2.79b but I would rather just go ahead and learn all the new stuff: good for exercising the grey matter and - like the whole right-mouse/left-mouse thing - the new interface is a significant improvement. So, no, don't get me wrong, I want to learn this.

I must have missed it somewhere but there's bound to be a solution for mouse-scroll-wheel increments: when I scroll to zoom in, I'm suddenly way too far in. I remember when I was dual-booting Windows/Linux Mint, I would have to unplug my dongle-based mouse and plug it back in to get the increments to be more rational. However, on the Mac - OLD Macbook Pro-ca 2012, but still able to run Mojave! - that little stratagem doesn't seem to bite. I realise I'm in an extreme minority, running Blender in a Mac environment, but perhaps someone would have an idea?

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LuxXeon ( ) posted Mon, 16 September 2019 at 11:44 AM

That sounds like a very frustrating issue. I'm sorry I don't have a good answer for you, but one thing that may help temporarily is pressing the HOME button on the keyboard. This should reset the scene and reset the DPI on the mouse wheel in the particular scene. Also, if you hold down the Mac equivalent of CTRL, then press down the middle mouse scroll wheel to engage the precision zoom. The issues with the wheel could be caused by any number of settings in the user preferences, such as Navigation > Orbit & Pan > Auto Depth. Turning this on could resolve some issues with mouse wheel navigation. Also, in the properties panel (N), enabling Lock To 3D Cursor could help with viewport navigation in some circumstances.

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Lobo3433 ( ) posted Mon, 16 September 2019 at 7:34 PM
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Hi Robyn

I looked all over and I found something that related to a YouTube video dated back in 2012 the only other thing I found that sounded similar to your issue was with using the 3dconnexion mouse, Mojave and upgrading to Blender 2.8 and it seemed the person was having the same issue you are describing and the fix was uninstalling the mouse drivers and reinstalling them and that resolved their issue I do not know if this might resolve your issue since I have zero know how with Mojave I hope this helps some and I know there has to be someone else in here who works with Blender and Mac's

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yarp ( ) posted Tue, 17 September 2019 at 1:03 AM

There a way to control the way the mouse zoom to a target. Unfortunately I don't recall how to do this.Yet :)

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yarp ( ) posted Tue, 17 September 2019 at 1:18 AM · edited Tue, 17 September 2019 at 1:19 AM

... and the answer is ctrl+zoom.
ctrl + wheel or Middle mouse button should zoom smoothly instead if by increment.

Yarp - author of P3DO Organizer for Poser


Miss B ( ) posted Tue, 17 September 2019 at 12:11 PM · edited Tue, 17 September 2019 at 12:11 PM

yarp posted at 1:09PM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362243

... and the answer is ctrl+zoom.
ctrl + wheel or Middle mouse button should zoom smoothly instead if by increment.

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Since getting a new mouse a few months ago, I've found the mouse wheel a bit too sensitive for my liking when zooming in.

~makes a note for future reference~

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yarp ( ) posted Tue, 17 September 2019 at 2:52 PM · edited Tue, 17 September 2019 at 2:58 PM

You are welcome Miss B, glad to contribute my 2 cents.
btw I now have Blender open (at home) and yeah with ctrl+MMB it zooms smoothly. But nothing with the wheel mouse.

Yarp - author of P3DO Organizer for Poser


RobynsVeil ( ) posted Tue, 17 September 2019 at 4:34 PM

Thank you to all who replied: I'll have a go with your suggestions and let you know how I get on. I think you might have a point about Mojave, Lobo: it seems to have broken more than just how the mouse behaves... my WiFi drivers appear to have issues as well.

Thanks again! 🙂

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Miss B ( ) posted Tue, 17 September 2019 at 6:04 PM · edited Tue, 17 September 2019 at 6:11 PM

yarp posted at 7:03PM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362315

You are welcome Miss B, glad to contribute my 2 cents.
btw I now have Blender open (at home) and yeah with ctrl+MMB it zooms smoothly. But nothing with the wheel mouse.

Uh Oh! I'll have to check that out, as I don't have a middle mouse button. 🙁

OK, I just re-read Robyn's original post, and Yarp's response, and realized I wasn't reading it correctly.

IOW, if I want to zoom in to an object I'm working on in Edit mode, I use Ctrl+LMB. What I'm having a problem with is zooming in the Node Editor, because every time I open it, the default nodes are so tiny I'd need a major monitor sized magnifying glass (or 2 of them) to see it, and the only way to zoom in closer is with the mouse wheel, but I can never get it to work smoothly.

I just tried it again with Ctrl+Wheel, and it works slightly, but it takes a number of tries to get it to where I can see it comfortably, and then often it's too large. Oh well.

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yarp ( ) posted Wed, 18 September 2019 at 12:06 AM

Oh yes you are absolutely right it is, ctrl+LMB. Awfully sorry, Don't know why I have been writting MMB.
And sure it is not easy to do.

Yarp - author of P3DO Organizer for Poser


harry625 ( ) posted Mon, 08 July 2024 at 7:55 AM
RobynsVeil posted at 12:39 AM Mon, 16 September 2019 - #2937704

I'm finally getting back into Blender (2.80, this time) and finding it all a bit of a new learning curve. In other words, they seemed to have moved the cheese. Now, I realise I can just have 2.80 emulate 2.79b but I would rather just go ahead and learn all the new stuff: good for exercising the grey matter and - like the whole right-mouse/left-mouse thing - the new interface is a significant improvement. So, no, don't get me wrong, I want to learn this.

I must have missed it somewhere but there's bound to be a solution for mouse-scroll-wheel increments: when I scroll to zoom in, I'm suddenly way too far in. I remember when I was dual-booting Windows/Linux Mint, I would have to unplug my dongle-based mouse and plug it back in to get the increments to be more rational. However, on the Mac - OLD Macbook Pro-ca 2012, but still able to run Mojave! - that little stratagem doesn't seem to bite. I realise I'm in an extreme minority, running Blender in a Mac environment, but perhaps someone would have an idea?

Getting back into Blender can indeed be a learning curve, especially with the changes in 2.80. Embracing the new features is a great mindset! For your mouse scroll issue, you might want to check the Preferences under Navigation for zoom settings. Adjusting the zoom speed or enabling "Auto Depth" might help. Also, consider using "Ctrl + Middle Mouse" for more controlled zooming. Happy blending!


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