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Subject: La Femme export/import for full body morph


weiesnbach ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 4:12 PM · edited Tue, 24 December 2024 at 10:02 PM

Okay, I just updated to 11.3, and I'm trying to get a full body morph to work with La Femme, but when I export the full model, and then try to load(unchanged) as a full body morph I get an error stating that it has the wrong number of vertices. When I export I have "as morph target" ticked...

...I'm very much used to creating morphs with a single body part, but I think I'm doing something wrong with the FBM. Are the eyes and teeth creating a problem? Is there something obvious that I am overlooking? I've tried going into the Runtime and looking for the base model there but I can't seem to locate it an OBJ for her in any logical place under Geometries.

...If someone could walk me through the steps to export the full figure, and then re-import it as an FBM, that would be great. I'll be using Blender(2.8) to create the morphs.

Thanks in advance.


bwldrd ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 4:39 PM · edited Wed, 08 April 2020 at 4:48 PM

Export how, as an obj? Or through GOZ.. Do not use an exported OBJ, find/backup/ and use the original in the geometries folder. if the original is obz.. copy it rename the extension from obz to zip , then extract the obj from the zip file.

If you are trying to make an FBM from your dial spins.. Go to the Figure menu and select either Create Full Body Morph or Spawn Full Body Morph. See the manual for which you should be using

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weiesnbach ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 4:45 PM

bwldrd posted at 4:39PM Wed, 08 April 2020 - #4385729

Export how, as an obj? Or through GOZ.. Do not use an exported OBJ, find/backup/ and use the original in the geometries folder.

...exported as an OBJ 'file/export', just like I would a single body part...

...I can't find the original in the Geometries folder. there is no LaFemme.obj, or any variation of that, not that I can find at least--or I would have already tried that route. I know it has to be there, but I'm not finding it. The only OBJ files I am finding are for clothing items.


CHK2033 ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 4:50 PM

In Poser make sure you hide those handles (dont know if that matters but i dont like seeing them anyway) Bring her SubD down to 0 then export her where ever your doing your thing, just pull push whatever to get it done (dont try and SubD her ) export,then use that as your full body morph. Ive been doing that at least 28 times in the past 2 days

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bwldrd ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 4:51 PM

LaFemme is located in Runtime:Geometries:RPublishing:LaFemme:LaFemme1.obj

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weiesnbach ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 4:54 PM

bwldrd posted at 4:54PM Wed, 08 April 2020 - #4385733

LaFemme is located in Runtime:Geometries:RPublishing:LaFemme:LaFemme1.obj

I don't have that file, I do have LaFemme1.obz, but I can't open that in Blender.


bwldrd ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 4:56 PM

if the original is obz.. copy it rename the extension from obz to zip , then extract the obj from the zip file.

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weiesnbach ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 5:00 PM

CHK2033 posted at 4:55PM Wed, 08 April 2020 - #4385731

In Poser make sure you hide those handles (dont know if that matters but i dont like seeing them anyway)

...what handles? I have everything unticked, except export as morph target:

image.png

I still get the error message: "Target geometry has wrong number of vertices"

...and it's directly out, and directly back in, no changes made.


EldritchCellar ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 5:02 PM · edited Wed, 08 April 2020 at 5:03 PM

La Femme obj is in the RPublishing folder in geometries. You'll need to decompress the .obz into an .obj... there is a script within poser, under utility, called uncompressPoserFiles. Use that to get an obj. Poser breaks the mesh into parts by group when you export from a scene and a figure. Thus you're getting duplicate vertices at the group breaks. Either work from the model obj in geometries or the figure as a "prop" within the scene. This should solve your problem. If you're still having problems I'll show you how to create a FBM for La Femme in Blender. But I think you'll be ok if you follow my above suggestions. You might also want to scale up the model by 100% to sculpt and then scale down to original for export back to Poser. Blender's sculpt tools will work better with a larger model...



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bwldrd ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 5:04 PM

I think he means all the control chips/ghost bone etc. That dial "Hide <-- Control Handles --> Show

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EldritchCellar ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 5:05 PM

Never mind, you're in good hands.



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CHK2033 ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 5:05 PM

bwldrd posted at 5:05PM Wed, 08 April 2020 - #4385738

I think he means all the control chips/ghost bone etc. That dial "Hide <-- Control Handles --> Show

Yes thanks

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weiesnbach ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 5:05 PM

bwldrd posted at 5:03PM Wed, 08 April 2020 - #4385735

if the original is obz.. copy it rename the extension from obz to zip , then extract the obj from the zip file.

Nope, but I thought it sounded good. Warning says "The compressed(zipped)folder".../....zip" is invalid .

...also tried simply changing it to obj,also not working.


bwldrd ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 5:11 PM · edited Wed, 08 April 2020 at 5:13 PM

Hmm.. odd I do it that way all the time for obz. Well try the script method EldritchCellar mentioned. It should be somewhere in your Scripts menu (Can't tell you exactly where, because I move all that type of thing into catagorized folders for myself). Just be aware doing that will increase your runtime size / disk usage as it it decompressing all those compressed files.

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weiesnbach ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 5:11 PM

EldritchCellar posted at 5:09PM Wed, 08 April 2020 - #4385737

La Femme obj is in the RPublishing folder in geometries. You'll need to decompress the .obz into an .obj... there is a script within poser, under utility, called uncompressPoserFiles. Use that to get an obj. Poser breaks the mesh into parts by group when you export from a scene and a figure. Thus you're getting duplicate vertices at the group breaks. Either work from the model obj in geometries or the figure as a "prop" within the scene. This should solve your problem. If you're still having problems I'll show you how to create a FBM for La Femme in Blender. But I think you'll be ok if you follow my above suggestions. You might also want to scale up the model by 100% to sculpt and then scale down to original for export back to Poser. Blender's sculpt tools will work better with a larger model...

....BINGO!!!!

Thanks, I feel so much better now...

....yeah I'm used to bringing body parts into Blender, morphing and returning, generally no issues, and yeah I used to scale up, but since 2.8, it's been much simpler.

Again thanks, you nailed it.


adp001 ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 9:46 PM

Because this is available for several years and well known, I'll post the link:

https://pypi.org/project/uncompyle6/

Everyone who owns a Python script may decompile it and use it with the current Python version available in Poser (simple start the decompiled script like you did with the compiled ones). Most scripts will run without intervention. Some more will work after running "2to3.py":

https://docs.python.org/2/library/2to3.html




bwldrd ( ) posted Wed, 08 April 2020 at 11:29 PM · edited Wed, 08 April 2020 at 11:30 PM

And how many degrees in programming will I need to understand everything to install and use that? :)

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adp001 ( ) posted Thu, 09 April 2020 at 12:53 AM

Looks harder as it is.

I bet there'll be plenty of how-to's if the time comes. But decompiling is only required if the script-author does not want to or cannot provide a new version.




EClark1894 ( ) posted Thu, 09 April 2020 at 5:48 AM · edited Thu, 09 April 2020 at 5:49 AM

bwldrd posted at 6:43AM Thu, 09 April 2020 - #4385729

Export how, as an obj? Or through GOZ.. Do not use an exported OBJ, find/backup/ and use the original in the geometries folder. if the original is obz.. copy it rename the extension from obz to zip , then extract the obj from the zip file.

You don't need to do that. An .obz file is a compressed .obj file which Poser has a script to handle. Just go to the Scripts menu, look for and select Utility-> uncompressPoser Files and follow instructions. It will leave you with an .obj file.




hborre ( ) posted Thu, 09 April 2020 at 9:43 AM

I found that feature to be very aggressive, it decompresses everything in your Poser library. Really use with caution. I have Winrar installed on my machine and I can direct Windows to use it to open and decompress those files.


weiesnbach ( ) posted Thu, 09 April 2020 at 10:25 AM

hborre posted at 10:21AM Thu, 09 April 2020 - #4385803

I found that feature to be very aggressive, it decompresses everything in your Poser library. Really use with caution. I have Winrar installed on my machine and I can direct Windows to use it to open and decompress those files.

I simply ran it on the folder with LaFemme in it, not my entire Runtime, or the the various other Runtimes I have scattered about--just the single folder. I honestly don't think I have enough disk space to uncompressed all of my Runtime folders.


EClark1894 ( ) posted Thu, 09 April 2020 at 10:59 AM

I ran it on Roxie when they updated her a while back. That's how I found out about it. I had no problems with it then.




KarinaKiev ( ) posted Thu, 09 April 2020 at 12:18 PM · edited Thu, 09 April 2020 at 12:22 PM

You might want to download the Open-Source and Free utility "7-Zip".

Google for it's official site! After you've installed it you can link any compressed Poser file(s) to it, plus a lot of other archive formats.

Now whenever you encounter a .ZIP, .RAR, .CRZ, .PZZ, .OBZ, etc. file, just righ-click it and select "Open with...", then "Select another app" and make that "7-Zip". After 7-Zip is running, just click "Extract" and define a target file name.

That's all.

B.t.w., having 7-Zip also allows you to create all sorts of archives (except .RAR, which is a proprietary format and needs WinRAR installed)

I would suggest to Google and learn more about popular archive formats in general. However, all the Poser "compressed" files are nothing more than a simple ZIP compressed file.

So instead of unpacking with the "big stick" of the Poser tool which will inevitably decompress all compressed files in a specified folder, you now can use 7-Zip to unpack exactly that one file you want to.

If you need more help, feel free to ask!

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willyb53 ( ) posted Thu, 09 April 2020 at 5:18 PM

If you want to export the obj file for a full body morph, set the display subdivision to 0

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