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Subject: Glitch around the nose, using Vic4 (sasha in fact)


Y-Phil ( ) posted Mon, 16 November 2020 at 8:21 AM ยท edited Thu, 02 January 2025 at 6:30 PM

Hi there

So happy with Poser 12 ?

It's not the first time I can see such an effect. It concerns a morph called "NostrilsCreaseDepth". It creates a nice effect around the nostrils. Using @Ghostship's excellent Cycles2 settings mat (now as a compound node in my library). It renders really beautifully for me, but I find this kind of... "ray of light" around the nose somewhat surprising.

I've checked using P11 and EZSkin3 and it's similar, although somewhat less visible. But I know that when two parts of a body are in contact, I can see a similar effect. I thought that it was because of my EZSkin3's settings, but as it's visible also using Ghostship's mats, I wonder what I could change, except turning the morph down to 0 ?

Sasha-Nelly--face-P12+P11.jpg

Thanks in advance

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ghostship2 ( ) posted Mon, 16 November 2020 at 9:13 AM

I think what you are seeing is reflection, not SSS glowing. Probably still related to your gloss settings for your skin texture. Not sure what SSS shader you are using. I think I did make one at the request of someone a long time ago but I don't use that myself. I use the free one at ShareCG that Bopperthijs made for EZSkin3. Here are my results with nostril crease at 0 and then at 1. Nose crease 1.jpg

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Mon, 16 November 2020 at 9:37 AM

I think what you are seeing is reflection, not SSS glowing. Probably still related to your gloss settings for your skin texture. Not sure what SSS shader you are using. I think I did make one at the request of someone a long time ago but I don't use that myself. I use the free one at ShareCG that Bopperthijs made for EZSkin3. Here are my results with nostril crease at 0 and then at 1.

I'm using what you showed the other day in one of these threads. I've just put this in a compound node:

2020-11-16_16h34_37.png

I may, of course, have wrongly reported some values, but I'm not really advanced with the nodes and their purpose. I need to feel more at ease.

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ghostship2 ( ) posted Mon, 16 November 2020 at 10:46 AM

I think it's just what Roger Daltrey calls " a trick of the light."

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Mon, 16 November 2020 at 12:12 PM

ghostship2 posted at 12:11PM Mon, 16 November 2020 - #4404807

I think it's just what Roger Daltrey calls " a trick of the light."

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hborre ( ) posted Mon, 16 November 2020 at 1:29 PM

What is your radius value on the SSS node?


Y-Phil ( ) posted Mon, 16 November 2020 at 3:47 PM

hborre posted at 3:47PM Mon, 16 November 2020 - #4404821

What is your radius value on the SSS node?

3.670000, 1.760000, 0.600000

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hborre ( ) posted Mon, 16 November 2020 at 4:45 PM

Try reducing those values by half and re-render the image. See if it reduces the glow.


Y-Phil ( ) posted Mon, 16 November 2020 at 5:43 PM

hborre posted at 5:41PM Mon, 16 November 2020 - #4404837

Try reducing those values by half and re-render the image. See if it reduces the glow.

Thanks for your input but I suppose that there's nothing to do: I've tried those values divided by 2, then by 4, tried different falloff methods, sharpness, scale, even tried to change both gloss' distribution: no effect. So that I suppose that it's related to Vic4's geometry.

Thank you, anyway ?

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hborre ( ) posted Mon, 16 November 2020 at 6:11 PM

ATM, I'm switching to the PrincipleBDSF node for the skin. I had a similar issue with glowing eyelids and the only solution was modulating the Subsurface value, a very low value, and the radius. The quality of the renders is holding up.


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