The default set up for the material room is inefficient at best.  

Changes made to the arrangement of the various modules are not saved.  It does not matter if you hit Edit preferences > Set preferred Scene and than save.  

Previous versions of Poser included this in the Preferred scene.

Preferred scene only sets the preferred startup document, not the UI layout. The UI layout in on the Interface tab of the preferences. You can also use the UI dot's to store layouts for different tasks.

The UI dots certainly work I have a couple of different set ups and it is easy to switch from one to the other.

The image shown above does not solve the issue.

There are also settings under the Document tab.

donnena posted at 8:13 PM Tue, 2 May 2023 - #4464071

The image shown above does not solve the issue.

As it's relatively easy to kind of loose one of the windows, especially when Drag-Docking function is enabled:

Let me suggest you to save the user's interface (UI in short) organization, using this gem:

That's how I've save my arrangement  in the Pose Room as well as in the Material Room.
I don't know the shortcuts on Mac's world, but on Windows:

- alt + left clic to remove a saved arrangement
- left-clic to recall it

This works on camera as well, which can be really handy with complex scenes.

Y-Phil posted at 4:03 AM Wed, 3 May 2023 - #4464105

donnena posted at 8:13 PM Tue, 2 May 2023 - #4464071

The image shown above does not solve the issue.

As it's relatively easy to kind of loose one of the windows, especially when Drag-Docking function is enabled:

Let me suggest you to save the user's interface (UI in short) organization, using this gem:

That's how I've save my arrangement  in the Pose Room as well as in the Material Room.
I don't know the shortcuts on Mac's world, but on Windows:

- alt + left clic to remove a saved arrangement
- left-clic to recall it

This works on camera as well, which can be really handy with complex scenes.

You are right, these dots are real gems, like you I have a different set up for the pose room and the material room, in fact I have a couple of pose room setups depending on what scripts I want in each one other wise it can get very cluttered.

One thing that brother's me since Poser stopped using Flash for it's library UI is that I can't simply have the library set up as a separate window. I have two monitors, like I guess the most of us do. In the day's of Poser Pro 2014 I click the option in the settings tab and with the next start of Poser the library show as a small extra window. I smashed this window to the top of my screen and it became full screen automatically. I didn't had to save this in a UI dot, it just stayed there until I closed it. Today I have to enable floating and disable automatic docking behavior, pull the window to screen size manually.  But the thing that triggers me all the time is, as soon as I open the material room, the library flip's back into the UI and shrinks down to an unusable size. And that is the standard behavior in a part of the program that needs the most screen space for the materials editor and simultaneously a decent preview of the materials to choose from the library. This don't makes any sense at all. And btw. I still miss a back to previous button in said library. If I open my main runtime characters folder in the library, it contains several hundreds of entries. Let's say I pick something in the alphabetical order under G and open the item, didn't find what I was looking for and just want back to where I came from , the selection goes all the way up to the top of the library and the scrolling fun starts again. This worked perfectly under PP2014, you also could open the library and type a letter and the collum runs to the given letter. Is not gonna work in Poser 13 but I m complaining about this since Poser 11 came out.

 

Each room has and maintains its own setup and doesn't transcend from one room to another.  A bit inconvenient when you want certain features or scripts to remain open or in place.  The only way around it is to make sure that the UI for every room is set the way you like it and save it back through the General Preference window.  

I agree with the Library's behavior, more can be done to make it user-friendly, perhaps a back-and-forward feature controlled by mouse buttons found in all current browsers.

My Library window is always separated, and even if Windows maximizes a window which is pushed towards the top of screen, I have never seen that, which leads me to wonder if you don't have another GUI tool that does the trick?
My setup has three screen so that, when I'm in the Mat room, it's basically spread out over all the screens.

Y-Phil posted at 11:07 AM Wed, 3 May 2023 - #4464131

My Library window is always separated, and even if Windows maximizes a window which is pushed towards the top of screen, I have never seen that, which leads me to wonder if you don't have another GUI tool that does the trick?
My setup has three screen so that, when I'm in the Mat room, it's basically spread out over all the screens.

I have to make do with two screens so basically the tools are generally on the left screen with the preview screen on the right.

Sorry for my latest post, the ranting was unintentionally.😁

Your three monitor setup looks amazing. I have two monitors, one is dedicated to the library and one for the UI. I have to point out that I was referring to the standard behavior. I'm well aware that one can do all sorts of changes to the UI and I do make use of it in some cases.

blackbonner posted at 4:25 AM Thu, 4 May 2023 - #4464228

Sorry for my latest post, the ranting was unintentionally.😁

Your three monitor setup looks amazing. I have two monitors, one is dedicated to the library and one for the UI. I have to point out that I was referring to the standard behavior. I'm well aware that one can do all sorts of changes to the UI and I do make use of it in some cases.

Oh I started with two monitors, nearly at the time of Windows 1.0 

I've even installed a fourth monitor  (connected to the video card on the motherboard), for skype and discord, but that's another story