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Subject: On right mouse click on a dial and clicking 'Graph' only shows flatline


Plazagaai ( ) posted Sun, 17 December 2023 at 9:12 AM · edited Tue, 19 November 2024 at 9:59 AM

Hi,

Officially i am using Poser11 but considering to upgrade to Poser13. While using the trial version of P13 i encountered a problem with the graph palette.

When i change a parameter dial while having its graph palette open, dialing up a huge number causes the curve to get out of view in the graph palette; perfectly normal. I usually then close that graph palette and rightclick the dial and choose 'graph' to view the graph palette refreshed and a nice curve within view of the graph palette appears. 

Now doing the same in P13 then only shows a flat line, though double clicking that dial in the animation palette shows it the right way. Am i am doing something wrong or is there a setting? Or is this a bug?


RedPhantom ( ) posted Sun, 17 December 2023 at 10:29 AM
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Trying this, the 2 graphs are different increments. When I bent the forearm, the graph from the graph menu had increments of 0.0853. The graph from right-clicking was 0.071.

I don't see a way to change either of these.


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nerd ( ) posted Sun, 17 December 2023 at 11:57 AM
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The graph behavior was changed in SR2 so that it opens to show the entire key range instead of just the first 30 frames. Seems that was too eager as it also seems to display the entire *possible* range. Fortunately there were other changes. There's a button in the bottom left of the graph to reset the display range. This only seems to happen when the graph is opened from the Parameter Palette context menu. Opening the graph from the top menu or the button on the animation palette opens it normally.



Plazagaai ( ) posted Sun, 17 December 2023 at 5:30 PM

Figured out this button on the bottom left in the mean time as well. Though the method using the context menu is really a way for me doing this, able to do this almost blindly. 

I assigned a short key or shortcut to this function whitch i can learn to use instead. Maybe worthwhile to do to taking this step upgrading to P13; At least Superfly Render engine now is compatible to my RTX GPU.

Thanks for the effort, maybe over time it will be corrected anyway by the Poser developers. Perhaps my short key is even a quicker/better solution in my case. :-)


ChromeStar ( ) posted Sun, 17 December 2023 at 8:34 PM

Discoverability of that button could stand to be improved. There's no label at all. It's definitely been helpful me to have it there, I just don't know how anyone not reading the forum would be expected to find it.

If you add some actual buttons, it would be nice to be able to manually adjust the range (on both axes). Maybe add buttons "autoscale", "more frames," "fewer frames," "expand scale", "reduce scale." If you want icons, I've seen buttons for increasing/decreasing the scale using a magnifying glass with a + or - sign.



ShaneNewville ( ) posted Mon, 18 December 2023 at 3:59 AM · edited Mon, 18 December 2023 at 4:01 AM

Gave this a try too just to see what's up. Ive never noticed that issue before but also don't think Ive ever used the "Graph..." context menu button to access it. 
It opens a whole new graph window for the same parameter every single time it's clicked.

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ChromeStar ( ) posted Mon, 18 December 2023 at 3:07 PM

It's deliberate that you can have multiple graphs open side by side, in order to look at multiple parameters at once. And since they've set it so that you can change what parameter is being graphed within the window, and even have it (optionally) switch figures when you select a different figure, there's no one-to-one link between the graph and the setting that would prevent opening multiple instances.



Plazagaai ( ) posted Mon, 18 December 2023 at 9:50 PM

I've also found out that the button from the graph window in P13 at the bottom left corner is also working in P11 :-D. There is only no button to be seen... Makes things way easier.


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