Very clever DocPhoton!

Except... Except... New releases over there often have some sort of discount. I suppose, if one really wants to support the vendor, one buys early. That idea fights with my inner nature as I am a brutal bargain hunter at heart. Maybe splurging for something one really wants is not necessarily a sucker play. 

What I've been doing for some time now is simply putting things on my Wishlist and let them sit until something is at least 50%.

I've no actual idea what the arrangement between the artist & distributor is. But using the practice of movie distribution as an example, and a what number of similar business were modeled after, a first run movie's box-office take was split 90%-10% for X number of weeks; the lions share going to the distributor. The 10% and concession sales went to the theater.  As time went on, the percentage leveled out or even re-balanced in the theaters favor, but audience sizes would be dropping as well.

Might not be as flashy as the first days number of sales, but the artist usually makes a better percentage the older the product is. They're digital assets, so for the Distributor, the only real cost is maintaining server storage. So for them really it's, pretty much all profit.

Rendo's vendor arrangement doesn't say that. It says, least percentage is 50/50 split: https://www.renderosity.com/media_upload/17581

Daz says

- Earn 50% net revenue of sales

- Bonuses for top Artists

- Free product marketing to active buyers

- Royalty payouts monthly or bi-monthly

- Opportunities to partner with Daz to create commissioned assets

https://www.daz3d.com/pa/landing

Daz PA details are not publicly articulated, that I could find. My observation is, some PAs hail Daz as their ticket to life as a 3D artist, and some lament the way PAs are treated. Some vendors here feel the same ways about Rendo. Some PAs and Vendors sell from both sites, and others as well. No one solution works for everyone.

Nothing I've seen suggests the arrangement anywhere is comparable to movie studios. I could still be wrong, but I can't imagine anyone signing up for a 90-company/10-vendor split. Re: Daz: As I understand it, Daz completely handles the marketing, promotion, and consumer complaints. The company also does some of the work to prep items for sale. I don't know the details first-hand. I don't know how all that works here.

There is some grey area here and there as relates to reward points and GCs. I suppose that's where the idea of Net Revenue comes into play. Every company handles things a little differently.

Ya.  Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug.

I seem to trope more towards the artist or at least the product; vendor is really irrelevant to me at this stage.  So like anything, quality & style never go out of fashion. If a particular product stands out or offers something a bit unique, it should expect a long sales life I'd think.

I've been revisiting some of my older assets, even back to Poser days, and amazed at some of the detail & quality. Been making new textures where needed, but overall they hold their own.  I've been integrating them with KitBash models. The KB models don't really have interiors to them so it's a good match.

Sounds like a plan, Doc Photon.

Yep, Caveat emptor...

https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/165594/hydralisk-for-poser?aid=5613:2024-08-25

Torquinox posted at 9:09 PM Wed, 21 August 2024 - #4488621

gohanf22 posted at 2:36 PM Wed, 21 August 2024 - #4488617

What is really irritating me is that they are pushing for people to buy these new Models that come out for gen 9 that are for certain IPs, like how is DAZ getting away with selling those?

Their big Star Trek and Dark Knight sets both got pulled. I've heard vendors say they get the bulk of their money for a product in the first week. So, if an item lasts a week in the store, I guess the vendor got paid for the items sold. Obviously, any store offers paid EL items for the money. It's a nudge-nudge-wink-wink thing.

Some vendors sell products that look infringing to me and it's under commercial license. And the store selling the products often doesn't seem to care. It's up to the copyright holder to say "Stop that!" Perhaps the copyright holder is busy? No idea. In any case, all that becomes Buyer Beware! 

I had noticed certain things going missing from the "new release" sections.

But I also know there are things available that are direct copies of IP materials.

They werent all released with big fan fair as they did with a certain space western, or marvel release, but they are definitely copies.

As for the artists, that is pretty sad to hear. As it cant be much they are making.
Ill say it again, I rather give 100% of my purchasing power to the artist directly.

DarkElegance posted at 1:55 AM Mon, 26 August 2024 - #4488784

As for the artists, that is pretty sad to hear. As it cant be much they are making.
Ill say it again, I rather give 100% of my purchasing power to the artist directly.

So, I can't say for certain. The gist of what I hear is, they're not getting rich but some make a good living. Many more struggle. The benefit of a platform like Daz or Rendo should be market reach and support. Not sure how well this works out in practice.

It doesn't seem to matter what the medium or market. For many who try to earn a living making art or being artistically creative, the artist's life is hard. Some find a place and make a go of it. Only an anointed few win big. They're the lottery winners. Many more try and fail.

Torquinox posted at 11:30 AM Tue, 27 August 2024 - #4488825

DarkElegance posted at 1:55 AM Mon, 26 August 2024 - #4488784

As for the artists, that is pretty sad to hear. As it cant be much they are making.
Ill say it again, I rather give 100% of my purchasing power to the artist directly.

So, I can't say for certain. The gist of what I hear is, they're not getting rich but some make a good living. Many more struggle. The benefit of a platform like Daz or Rendo should be market reach and support. Not sure how well this works out in practice.

It doesn't seem to matter what the medium or market. For many who try to earn a living making art or being artistically creative, the artist's life is hard. Some find a place and make a go of it. Only an anointed few win big. They're the lottery winners. Many more try and fail.

... Been that way for millennia actually.

It's always been a tough market to work in. Used to be better,  definitely tougher now.   And the standard distribution of the BELL curve applies. The top 10-15% carry it.

Thanks FirstBastion! I appreciate your candor.