Hey... I posted yesterday and got some help regarding some ad-ware that used poser as it's trigger for the pop-up. I got a proggie that gets ris of the stuff, but, unfortunately, didn't realize the Poser folks might want to know where the ad-ware proggie was from ( oops. ) I'm gonna try and see if I can find the ad-ware again, so I can let them know who made it, or where I picked it up, etc... If anyone else out there has it pop-up ( It'll come up when you go to load Poser ), then be sure to find out who made it or where it goes and let the CL folks know, ok? Paul ( Who can't believe he's actually about to go looking for ad-ware )

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Sorry... may not have been clear... I'm not looking for the program that removed the spyware.. I'm looking for the spy-ware I removed. ;) Wierd, huh? Nonetheless, I'm sure the CL folks are upset that someone targeted poser for their spyware, and used Poser's code to initiate the pop-up. I'm just trying to get the info for kupa on who it was that had the balls to try it. ;) Paul

oops :) I'll have a look at your post from yesterday and see if I can find out too, who knows what they'll try next

Now who in their right mind would want to advertize that way? I mean it's like breaking down the door to your house and shoving it in your face. Not only that but you have to repair the door afterward.

Telemarketers do effectively the same thing :chuckles: I hate the hard sell but everyone seems interested in doing it more and more these days. Only when we as consumers quit responding to it completely will it stop. Anz

we have more trouble with jehovahs witnesses round here, every sunday afternoon just as I'm sitting down to dinner they knock on the door, I change each time, 1 week I'm a blood donor, then I'm a Satanist or a Nazi, the funniest time was when I went to the door in my goth gear, fangs white face the whole bit, frightened the life out of the poor dear, lol, I'm not against them having their religion but I don't want to be one

heh.. I used to let my roommate handle them. He'd have a blast with them. I'm the same way.. I don't mind you doing what you want but leave me the hell out of it. Anz

We used to have people claiming to be Jehovah's Witnesses in my town on weekdays, until the cops were tipped off that there were always break-ins and burglaries on the day following their door-to-door visits. I don't know if there was any connection, but I haven't seen any of them for 3 years now, and burglaries have decreased.

A friend of mine opened the door to some Jehovah Witnesses, at which point his girl friend appeared at the far end of the hall, completely naked, saying "Who is it?". The Jehovah's Witnesses ran as fast as they could.

Wait, let me get this straight: you're talking about a program that somehow gets onto your hard drive and then pops up an ad when you start Poser? Unbelievable! Doesn't virus protection scan for that kind of thing? Jeez, I'm glad I work on a Mac (with a firewall).

"Doesn't virus protection scan for that kind of thing?" It would if they were a virus, but they're not. They're "legitimate" programs that track your habits on the computer and pop webpages up where you can buy stuff from, because hey, it's what you were about to do anyway, right? Ok, sorry for the sarcasm. :) Just use ad-aware if you think something is fishy. You may be surprised at what you find (even if nothing is fishy).

Yeah, no negative reflection on Jehovah's Witnesses, because they certainly seem to be trying to do good stuff, but that old "pretending to be" JWs is an old time scam used by some of the more enterprising burglars. I remember back in the 60s, working at a police department, hearing about that even then. Of course, these days some take a more direct approach, i.e., home invasion, etc. Wonderful world, isn't it?

Wait, let me get this straight: you're talking about a program that somehow gets onto your hard drive and then pops up an ad when you start Poser? << Yup. Just to let you all know, Steve Cooper at CL is looking for the company that's doing it. I was pretty surprised when it happened myself. I'm sure it's nowhere I go regularly ( i.e. Rosity, PoserPros, Rotica, 3DArena, RDNA, or 3dup ). I picked it up somewhere by accident and for the life of it, I can't figure where it came from. :( Paul

You didn't by any chance go out to TurboSquid or such places where models are sold for all sorts of applications? It would make sense for an enterprising ad company to plant a cookie which would check to see the file type you were interested in, and then put up ads for more models of such type when you opened the appropriate program. Once you write such a script, you could have it tag Poser, Max, Maya, or whatever. It would be both efficient and "personalized". (Aren't you glad that I'm not in marketing?) The problem with hunting this buzzard down to it's nest is that you'd have to go to each suspect site, accept the cookies, and then open Poser. (After each of these, you'd have to scour your poor system.) It would be aggravating and time consuming... the sort of job you'd give to a condemned prisoner. Carolly

Yeah... I've been trying to think of ANYWHERE I could have picked it up, and, unfortunately, I'm coming up short... On top of that, it could have even been in an e-mail attachment or a file transfer... If one of my online friends sent me something like that intentionally, though, they'd never fess up... :( Paul

"It would if they were a virus, but they're not. They're "legitimate" programs..." I still don't understand how the thing gets onto your machine in the first place. Like I said, I'm a Mac user, and nothing gets downloaded or installed on my machine without my knowing about it. This isn't a PC bash at all, I'm just not seeing how this happens without you seeing it. Can someone enlighten me?

Hiram, Praxis has found some really nasty little tell-tale applets which get installed with other, useful programs or files. (You might check his spyware threads in OT Forum.) We tell our anti-virus program to suspend activity during the installation process... and usually have no way of checking to see what ELSE is being installed, especially if it is hidden in some dark corner. We on Macs have some protection... although the unix core of OSX is going to open us up to certain vulnerabilities. Hey, Entropic... did you run any installation scripts such as VISE during the day or two before this happened? Carolly