If I understand correctly, Pro Pack doesn't need rsr files in the Libraries, since Pro Pack automatically creates png files whenever you load a given Library "section." Does Pro Pack need rsr files in Geometries? I've just done a "search and destroy" of rsr files in the entire Library structure. That was fun! Ron

Ron, Ron, Ron, ProPack does use the *.rsr files. Went you open a Library for the first time, ProPack search thru directory for the *.rsr and create the *.png for each and ProPack check each time you open a directory from the Library and will create new ones for any missing. So if you did a "search and destroy" on *.rsr and you have not used that Library directory you destroy the thumbnail image. Now on the Geometries Poser uses the *.rsr to load faster so the next time you load that *.obj file the *.rsr will be create. I hope you didnt empty the recycle bin now

OUCH. That was a bone-head error on my part. In my last purge, I selected over 4,096 rsr files in the Libary folders. I was able to recover maybe 2,000-3,000 before my computer decided to reboot itself. Some of those folders already had converted png's, and others I'm sure did not. I have to run to work now. When I return, I can do a nice hunt to see which things need to be reinstalled. Oh, the joys of being stupid! Thanks for the tip. Now I know what NOT to do, grin!

Please also be aware that some of the older, user-made figures used the larger .rsr to distribute the geometries rather then a .obj. Pro Pack does use them this way so if you have problems loading a figure you may have to use the RSR2OBJ utility (in freestuff) to extract the .obj file.

Oops - 'Pro Pack does use them ...' should read 'Pro Pack DOES NOT use them ...', sorry. ;-)

bushi, thanks for correcting yourself. Pro-pack does not use RSR files except in these cases: THe OBJ geometry file does not exist but the RSR for the geometry does. Converting this to an OBJ file will cause Pro-Pack to use the OBJ file and ignore the RSR files. When first opening a library, any items that do not have a PNG thumbnail will be checked for an RSR thumbnail. If the RSR thumbnail is found then it is converted to PNG and the PNG is loaded. THe RSR thumbnail is later ignored. Now I did a few tests here. FOr the thumbnails I have found that it isn't really worth going through them and deleting. My average space savings here was about 1 or 2 percent. These RSR files are fairly small. For the Geometry RSR's it is advantagous to remove these. After verifying that I had all the appropriate OBJ files I deleted the RSR's for these OBJ's. Disk space difference for my geometries folder dropped by 30%. Hope that helps you make another decision.

Beg to differ on one point KattMan. I've had several instances where folks tried loading one of my older figures after installing the Pro Pack and simply could not get it to load geometries from the distributed .rsr file. The only solution was to use the RSR2OBJ to extract the .obj file.

Hey Ron, don't feel too bad. I did the same bonehead thing by deleting rsr files in many many Poser Library files that I had yet to open in Poser. Hundreds of obnoxious Shrugging Guys now constantly remind me of the error of my ways.

Maybe one of you could answer me on a point of curiosity-- what exactly is an *.rsr file? What does it do? I'm on a Mac, and we don't have them. I know that without them, there is no thumbnail image. But is it more than that? I'd just like to know. :)

heh on a mac you don't need them and therefore you won't see them. At least that is a far as I know. On the PC they are used for two purposes. One to generate the Thumbnail image and the other is a conversion of OBJ files to a format that poser reads nativly or somesuch.

I discovered my massive mistake just before it was time to get to work. Now I'm back home, tired, and feeling pretty darned stupid. I'm compiling a list of stuff that needs to be reinstalled. Hopefully I can put it all together. After all that maybe I'll backup everything. Maybe I need to install my backup program first. Are you saying there is very little advantage to removing all those rsr files? Do I need to keep geometry rsr files? I got pretty confused again.

Ok in short. RSR files in the libraries won't give you very much space back by deleting them. RSR files in your geometries can give you maybe 30% of the space back. If you have all the OBJ files then I would delete the RSR files in the geometries.

OK, thanks. That makes it clear. As far as I know all my object files have both parts.. However you'd describe that.

Ah, thanks. Yes, it used to be that there was a bug with some files which when converted to Mac crashed Poser onload... the fix was to run it through the converter without the .rsr. It's since been fixed in MacConverter, but I was wondering if there was anything more to an .rsr than a thumbnail. That explains it-- and why there's an .rsr for .obj files. I am happy grasshopper.

Strangechild, Mac files typically have a data fork and a resource fork. We don't notice that there are two types of information streams unless we are moving files between the different operating systems. Since this program was originally written for the Mac, it is possible that the .rsr information is the stuff we have tucked neatly away in the resource fork... just set out plain and obvious for PC users. The code has changed a lot since then, but I suspect that is where it started. Hmm... that is an interesting question... now I'm curious. Of course, anybody who worked in tech support would know what files are necessary and what they actually do before giving other people advice on what should be installed where. Carolly