Hi there, Well first off I have seen every image and add-on and they are all wonderful. We are all amazed at the House Mouse becoming the huge sleeper hit of the season. Thanks to everyone who is adding to it. Great stuff. I honestly didn't quite expect so many downloaads. It is quite high now. Now about the cat. I was planning on a kitten but it seems it might be more prudent to think bigger. A truly realistic and full-featured cat will take alot of work. Also the exxtreme variations of cat shapes prevent one "omni-cat". However, a few "Multi-cats" are possible to cover most bases. So here is the big question? What kind? Short hair will be better for now until Daz Studio is released. Then we can look at doing long haired cats. Speak now or forever hold your peace. :) Anton DAZ 3D Platinum Club

Ok not forever ...but feedback sooner would help. :)

Anton - just a regular short haired tabbie would do me! Guarie

Ohhhhhhhh, a leak on Daz studio... long hair.... what will it be? Dynamics? Exportable to Bryce? yada yada yada!! hey we did like the mouse and a cat is something that needs to be done too. I would like to see a kitten as well as a decent full sized furbag. (Sorry, Kitty just slapped me for that one.) You know, some day I hope to see a good rabbit. There's none out there. I'd love to show some imaginative travels of the famous bunny in the battery commercials.

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I don't know. I am quite torn between screaming "KITTEN!" or asking for just a nice normal cat with textures. I think I really lean toward a kitten. Diane

How about a cat that will morph into other cats.. Tabby to simese.and so forth

I like soft grey and white, with boots, but would be happy with any furry. A Tabby would be lovely, too, considering how the feline beastmasters turned out. Emily

A cat could possibly morph into some similar variations but could nver be every cat. Aside from joint problems, texture distortion would occure in great differences. That is what I was meaning. Pics would help.

I agree that a short-haired tabby would be ideal. Perhaps a short-haired cat would be more popular at this point than a long-haired variety, since so many of us are still using P4, and trans maps to simulate longer hair might be problematic. It could take on all of the main tabby textures ... calico, gray/white, orange/white. It probably wouldn't be too hard to provide morphs to change the basic form to other short-haired varieties ... Siamese, whatever. Awful nice of you to respond to all the requests like this, Anton. Bill, have you seen the Fantasy Feline textures for M&V at DAZ? They might not be exactly what you have in mind, but they're very effective when used with the Millennium figures' "cat" morphs.

I also think the short-hair tabby would be good for now (I have two of them myself, but still...). :) It could probably be scaled down to be a kitten (someone has already done that with the P4 cat), and maybe through clever transmapping, we could at least try to make it a longhair too. Perhaps making a "cape" of sorts to conform and drape over the cat's body and transmapping that could add longer hair. Just a thought though. ;) BTW Anton, is there any possibility of offering $5 DAZ gift certificates in the future? I know it doesn't seem worth the trouble, but I have a few people I'd like to give certificates to and I can't really spend $10 each at the moment. Besides, for Platinum Club members, $5 goes a long way. :) Thanks for your time, take care. SnowS Hoping his pictures are worth 1001 words. 1001 Words

http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/ragdoll.html http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/scottish.html http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/havana.html http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/british.html Anyone of these...or truthfully I would be very happy with any breed/type as long as the cat actually looks like a cat/kitten. Now that would be nice. smile

while a siamese is a short hair, there are a couple of things unique to siamese that would make it very difficult to morph a basic short hair cat body into one. the first being the unjointed kink in a siamese tail-tip, with the siamese tail also being thinner and jointed to only go up from the butt. ( this was actually bred into this fighting cat to enable storing rings on the tail and only the owner able to get them easily. )

Kitten. KITTEN. LOTS of morphs. high poly count. GREAT eyes!!! .....ummm ummmm ummmm....Kitten with the ability with morphs to baby tiger etc. would be really really cool. the posted pics are CUTE!!! those would do! Anton...seems to be your modeling year. great work on the House Mouse etc. Keep up the great work. And thanks for asking the community too.

A tiger-tabby and a fat orange Garfield, oh pleeeeease!

KITTENS! Then an alligator...I'd love to see some Peter Pan type renders (using the Fairie Wings Deluxe)...then pirate clothes, Tinkerbell house...oh my goodness...I think I better roll up my imagination for now.

Kittens for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joints? What joints?

Short hair: A cougar would be nice - or even a jaguar - or if you, must a siamese. Or better yet, a tiger. Long hair: One of them Norwegian Forest Cats.

ernyoka1, never said it was wanted currently, but it was when the siamese were bred into being. and my information about thier history is from the public library, in almost any encyclopedia. ( I memorised 3 sets by grade 2 ) guard more than fighting, but I'm sure you noticed that siamese tend to not like new people ( generally speaking, since all cats are individuals ) not sure if it was china or a smaller asian country where the ruling class used them to patrol the home at night and guard the jewellry. ( hense the kink at the tip ) they tend to keep thier tail verticle when walking, which helped balance the rings ~wink~. personally, I prefer dogs, specifically neopolitan mastiff, over cats. but all animals seem to adore me. ( even those few purebred siamese I have been around )

Coolness. I'd actually buy the "Millenium Cat" ;] Short hair? I'm a russian blue fan personally... although I second and third those that said we seriously need a full featured big cat set. The current ones aren't quite quite... Some things that would be a must [large or small cat]: ear flex morphs to swivel, forward and flatten ears. Ctas ears are extremely expressive. A good snarl and othe mouth/muzzle expression morphs. Ditto for eye/face expressions. Morphs to move and position the whiskers... again, cats have very expressive whiskers. Next to the tail tip, that's their most expressive feature. The shoulders and hips/thighs need some shaping morphs and "fix" morphs to allow for the muscles to flex when the legs are posed and bent. ECM/JCM mayhaps? And plenty of joints in the tails... enough to allow for easy posing. The tails of the current cat and lion break up and/or kink badly during posing. Incorporate a lot of features like those to take advantage of what Poser's current level of "user created file hacking" has added over time to state of the art, and you'd have a winner. I'd buy it. Without.... I wouldn't pay Daz prices for a new cat model. PS: To erynoka1 - that is one gorgeous family of cats you have there. ;]

Uhm IronBear, I do not own all those cats on the pic with all the cats. Only the white one in the middle :o) The pic was taken at the breeders house when we picked him up. I DO have 3 cats though :o), the black tipped-over one is mine as well as an abysinnian not yet protrayed here. G

Cat that can morph to a kitten :) And mouth morphs for the mouse so he can bite the cat back!

Ah. "just before he left his native home " - missed that one. ;] Heh heh... reminded me of our house before we got all the kittens adopted out. With 11 kittens and 3 adult cats, we were walltowall cats for about 10 weeks.

OMG KITTIES!!! :o I LOVE CATS! :) regains composure I think a kitten w/cat morphs :) A shorthair one, a cute one :)

This will be an unbearable wait for this thing from DAZ....I am not a patient person...Sharen

OMG! These are soo cute. I am making a list now. Fur seems to be the main hurdle but there is transmap potential. Will need to do tests to see what Poser can handle. Realistically Baby tigers and such would have to be their own figure. But as I said there is room for a few "Multi-cats". This would allow people to choose the one closest to what they want. Trying to sqeeze to much into one cat will just limit the overal results. Better to have the best looks possible to each. Ironbear, lol Loud and clear on the "cost-to-feature" guidelines. Pretty standard... ... load it with everything and give it away... :)We do try our best. I bout a great Cat Encyclopedia today so I will start looking up some of these names. I don't have any cats but have alot of pics. If anyone has open mouth pics or expression pics those would really help. If anyone has any closeup pics of feet and pads could you send to me at anton@daz3d.com but only if it is no trouble. Getting all the reference material usually is the longest part of the process. And not being a cat owner, I want to be thorough. These pics are really helpful as are the suggestions. Anton anton@daz3d.com Daz3D Platinum Club

Actually, that wasn't *quite what I meant, Anton. lol Meant more in the lines of "If it's got all those things, it'd be worth the same cost as Vicki 2 or Mike 2 to me". ;]

two biggest problems with house mouse, no tongue and can't open it's mouth. ~pout~ Little Dragon fixed the lack of posability for the hands. (used posettes channels, it worked )

Oh this is great news Anton, finally the Millennium Cat! SnowSultan's tabby looks so much like my former cat... he passed away 8 years ago and I still miss him... That is my favourite one. Also thanks danidh for the link and the references. I would pick these: http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/maine.html http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/american-bobtail.html http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/british.html http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/ragdoll.html As pointed out by others both kittens and cats versions would be great... and a lot of facial and expression morphs too, please.

Both! Please! We're greedy! Yeeeehawwww! We're finally getting a cat! And the way you're talking, Daz Studio has a schedule for release! We may not know what it is, but there is one (grin). Now, about Mike III....

Yay! We SO need a decent cat. I think a basic domestic shorthair would do nicely, and could be morphed into almost anything. For now, too, longer fur can be done in postwork. The biggest problem with the current cat is that it just doesn't look like a real cat in any way, and it doesn't have proper joints. The creation of an anatomically correct (and I'm not talking about genetalia, I'm talking about bone and muscle structure) cat (and dog PLEASE?) would make my year.

I absolutely agree that it should be a domestic shorthair. The lovely tabbies that tasquah posted pictures of above are just the thing. Frankly, my Russian Blue looks just like a short-haired tabby with a toothache. (Fat little face, you know. wink) so a lot could be done with morphs and different textures to give us a small universe of cats from just one plain old domestic shorthair to start with. I think an additional kitten model would also be a huge seller. I agree with Ironbear too on the price. I certainly don't expect to find a cat full of features for $1.99. As Momcat said just above, a new cat would make my year. I'm willing to pay more than $1.99 to have my year made!! LOL Anton, you've really given me something to smile about when I most needed it. Thanks! Kimberly

Oh, and if someone could make a tortoiseshell map.............

Anyone want a cat? I have several that have to go - allergies but I love them all :-D Anotn I will happily send you some of my new puffy little kittens - so you have a live model of course ;-D Tortoiseshells are my favorite and I have 2 of them , mother and daughter, but I love Chartreux (which would need a rounder chubbier body) and Russian Blues as well. But we can't ignore Tabbies - they get so agitated.... How about morphs for a bobtail and scottishfold as well?

Another cat type that I would love to see is a Manx (my two kittens are Manx). They're not just tailless, but they also have the bunny-ish back legs. It'd be nice to also have a morph or a joint that can be made invisible to give them a stubby tail. (Manx are actually better off if they have at least one joint.)

And there has to be an option for a kink in a Siamese tail! But it isn't always just the last joint. A friend of mine's Oriental Shorthair with Siamese blood has it right in the middle of his tail, and my Malcolm (the tuxedo in the lower corner you can barely see) has a slight one about 2/3 of the way from the base.

I think the best cat for starters would be the best breed of all, Domestic Short Hair. (The beloved mutt-cat.) It'd be the most flexible.

Sparrowheart, I can say from experience that matching the seamlines is KILLER. It can be done, but it is a serious pain.

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How about a DOG !!! Sorry....well, I'm not..no cats in this house...

Important to remember when modeling ANY type of cat: They have the uncanny ability to transform themselves into a mercurial substance at will.

Anton, Congrats on the success of the House Mouse. I was wondering if there was a chance to make the cat as both a bipedal and normal cat, IE: the same "human" rear legs as the mouse and also accurate "Cat" rear legs. Puss n Boots comes to mind... of course... "cat clothes" would be on the horizon. Any chance on an update or add on to the mouse to make the back legs more realistic? In nature, there's only one species with four knees. anyone? Yep, the Elephant.

oooh kitten please! :) one of my cats is a ragdoll and she's adorable. The Dahlia is built like a tank! Heh.