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DAZ vs. Carrara

DAZ|Studio (none) posted on Jul 03, 2006
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Another blip on the RADAR... :) I upgraded Carrara 3 to Carrara 5 a bit ago, and I can't decide if the new features make it worth doing my main work in. Of course, I'm hardly entrenched in ANYTHING, as you can tell by my gallery: I started out here as a writer, but you guys are just too nice, and I couldn't get any decent critiques. C'mon, guys, I KNOW my work needs help! :) Anyway, I set up a couple of characters in DAZ|Studio, rendered a couple of viewpoints, then imported the scene into Carrara and tried to max it out. And failed. :( It took me two hours to figure out that the render differences weren't making the girl's face look awful: Carrara didn't bother to apply the transmaps! :) So, slow me, I fixed that, tedious step by tedious click-select-double-click-open-GRRR!!! and the power went out. Start over. :) (Smile sweetly, Michael: You'll scare the children!) So here we have David and Aiko. David is skinned by J.A.G. from Luckyred--those who know me figured that out! :) and Aiko is morphed by Belle1947's Shayne...or is it Shelby? The one without freckles. :) She's wearing (a?) Bijin Jigoku, textured with Shan Retsujo (who can forget that?). I think her hair is DAZ' Madelyne hair. Dang, I'm gonna have to edit this post later, after I find my notes. Dave is wearing stuff from DAZ3D from the recent bundle they had on sale. His hair is the wedge cut, which has got to be one of the doofiest styles--hush, Michael, or I'll show them YOUR hair! Hmm... The Carrara versions of the scene have objets d'art from an included sample scene; naturally, I twiddled with them! I deleted most of the scene, re-built a lamp by stretching it and slapping a table ornament into it and making it glow. It actually rendered without crashing! :)

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luckyred

9:09PM | Mon, 03 July 2006

I'M SO CONFUSEDDDDDDDDDD...... Ok, and the objective was....... and this is all done in Carrara??? I will say I would sell my first born (and throw in the other two) to be able to get metal to shine and reflect like the lamp does. And I only get lighting and shadows that good by accident. Nice to see more of you around lately, I've missed you! ~hug~

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BBarbs

11:51PM | Mon, 03 July 2006

LMAO !!! Funny write up. I can see why Susan is confused. I understand from others that Carrara 5 renders much better without crashing, but that it is not so good with skin tones. I have it but havent even installed it. The Carrara render looks better to me. I wonder what it would have been like if you used that same scene in Poser. It is so hard to compare these things. Seems like each program has its own strengths and weaknesses. When I get it installed, I will take a look and see what it seems to me. I have heard that it will render complicated scenes without crashing like Poser can. Thanks for sharing this. Very interesting to see the comparison. Excellent !!! Hugsssss

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Sydney_Andrews

1:14AM | Tue, 04 July 2006

Are you importing into Carrara from DAZ Studio? Most programs will require some form of adjustment if there is no native plugin to allow import/export. Im sure now that DAZ has Carrara, it wont be too long. Until the poser plugin was available for Carrara, I had to re-texture everything by hand, Kind of a pain, but so well worth it when I compare my old poser renders to the carrara one. None the less, Ive been rendering poser into carrara for a couple of years now, and will stand by it. If you need any assistance, drop me a line. Im more than willing to help out, Regards, E

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squeeka

4:09AM | Tue, 04 July 2006

LoL! I have to agree with Susan, I'm a little confused... but then again it's 4:45 am here too, lol :D Interesting to see the difference between the way the two programs render Mike! And don't feel bad.. i think the first time I imported a scene into Bryce I had to do the same with the transmaps and it took me a while to figure it out :D huge hugglz hon and glad to see you posting!

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tallpindo

6:54AM | Tue, 04 July 2006

Carrara 5 does not crash. I say this timidly having had good experiences with 3 and PRO 4 now for two years. DAZ on the other hand only really makes previews and very quickly into "renders". I began on RayDream so I know your horror at seeing lots of work go bye-bye. I have lost my upgrade path again so I don't expect to be with DAZ on either. I don't know why just as I did not understand Eovia until 2004. DAZ does popular works. I wrote my own code since 1969. I like cheap and easy as same as the next guy. So maybe we will get together after I work some things out in stepwise computing rays. There is no continuum. Rainbows and quantized lines say otherwise. Explicit forms ultimately come out bounded as knowledge fills memory. Cameras cannot see over the horizon where bullets can fly. I suppose that is where I am more so than in a fog with a dim light. The translucence is too flat and the corners of the table are too sharp. That is what spoils the factory made here. Blame it on resolution. Electronics has no scale limits.

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Digitell

8:11AM | Tue, 04 July 2006

I 2 am a bit confused...I do my cartoon rendering in Daz...which crashes a whole lot! But it does good cartoon renders...never used Carrara. Is it better than Poser? Great to see an image from you!! Very good poseing and I love the shadow effects on the lower left image! :)

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Star4mation

10:56AM | Tue, 04 July 2006

Nice work Mic, great to see you making new images again :)

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Unicornst

2:57PM | Tue, 04 July 2006

Very glad to see you back around again!!! Don't know squat about Carrara, but there's some big differences in the examples you posted. And tell Chrissy (digitell), Studio does not crash. grumble, grumble... talking about my studio that way LOL

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micsteel

1:08PM | Sat, 08 July 2006

Studio almost never crashes for me, now that editing DFormer splines works!

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RAMWorks

12:09PM | Sun, 09 July 2006

Nice comparison there. Carrara wins hands down but you might have better luck in Studio if you invested in the pwShaders. They really help bring out detail and keep the lights from being too harsh over the characters skin (all surface areas can be tweaked in the Surfaces tab). I love Carrara 5 but will wait untill a good DAZ plugin is written in order to get settings to cross over to Carrara without having to twiddle too much with trans maps and the like. Hate having to do all that too! By the way folks, for me, using a newly built system (I built) I have D|S crashing on me all the time. Drivers are updated for Video and plenty of DDR2 RAM and a PIV 3.0 processor. I believe it's the folks that write the 3Delight engine that messed up this time. I get so many crashes with using shaders or renders that just stop in the middle of rendering for no reason. So.... waiting for the next version... again.... :rollseyes:


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