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The "Invitation"

DAZ|Studio Glamour posted on Mar 08, 2007
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Ok......Here's the saga of this image and how it made me hurl expletives. LOL As often is the case, I should have been doing other things, but I was playing instead. It started out as an image simply to show off some textures I had made for the G2 Elegance dress (which I will be uploading soon as freebies). Of course I needed some kind of classy scene to put Sydney into and decided it was high time I did one with a ratracer set. I absolutely love all of his stuff and on top of that he's a really nice gent. So I set up the scene and then decided it needed some dramatic lighting. I ended up putting 17 of them in, all SDK shader lights, mostly point. And so began the render, adjust, render again, adjust some more, render again, compare, tweak more settings......you get where I'm going with this. LOL. Since there were so many areas to light, and each time a setting in one was tweaked it affected light levels in other areas, it required a LOT of testing. Having learned the hard way to save, save, save, I did just that...regularly. I was almost happy with it, tweaked it one final time and was doing a final test when D/S crashed. I mean bigtime crashed, not just the render crashing, but the whole program. The first expletive was a single four letter word. And then a sigh, and then reopening the program and reloading the last save. Only problem was...........the last save was corrupt. That brought about a few more words worthy of a bar of soap in the mouth. Of course, once I loaded the last save before that, I realized how much work I had lost. I also discovered something I've seen before in D/S. When using the updated lights from the SDK, when you save a scene containing them and reload it, not all the settings load as they were saved. For the point lights, the decay settings were not saved, which was really frustrating because a small change in the decay setting can ake a big difference in the final outcome. The other thing that creates difficulty is that the preview doesn't look anything like the final render when using the SDK Point lights, especially when using lots of them and in combination with Distant and Spot lights. Even when I set the parameters up like they should be, lights in the reloaded scene didn't render the same way they did before the save. Adjusted the scene, still goofy lights. More bad words. So I set off to rebuild my light set. Essentially what I did was reload the scene and then began to replace every SDK light with a non-SDK light using the copy and replace option. Here is something I learned while trying to rebuild the lights in my scene: If you have them parented to certain things in your scene, unparent them first. The reason for this is that when you do a copy and replace, it will take the transform values relative to the item it is parented to and translate them to be relative to the center of the scene rather than the item it was parented to because the replaced lights come in unparented. Your light could potentially end up waaaaaay off from where it was before, as mine did. D/S crashed again, I rebuilt it again. More nasty words. Often when you rebuild a scene, it turns out better than the original. Not so in this case. I never got it looking as good as my tiny test renders did again. So I decided to scrap the dramatic lighting idea and instead see what would happen if I turned on shadows for most of the lights, and refections for most of the surfaces. Oddly enough, D/S behaved like a most angelic child, obviously having gotten over its earlier memory isssue tantrum. Funny how these images so often start out as one thing and become something totally different. LOL As always, thanks for looking. It is very, very much appreciated. And a special thanks to those of you who took the time to leave such wonderful comments on my last few images. :)

Comments (86)


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msebonyluv

7:21AM | Thu, 08 March 2007

Gorgeous scene!! Beautiful work!! wow!!

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Lassie24

7:29AM | Thu, 08 March 2007

Wow excellent work,hope she aint got high heels on she might slip on the floor,beautiful dress and lovely character :)

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Niha

7:31AM | Thu, 08 March 2007

Well all the trouble was well worth it! Beautiful job!! Fantastic reflections! And a gorgeous dress!

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Gor111

8:00AM | Thu, 08 March 2007

A fantastic indoor scenery with this so wonderful and proud looking lady! You gave her a real wonderful looking robe! What a marvellous selected background! Bravo!!!

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GVDV

8:39AM | Thu, 08 March 2007

Fabulous image !!! And i loved reading your text that goes with it !!! Lol...You have a superb way of telling things...loved it...i almost could hear you swear up to my place (i know the feeling ... and the words...looool)... Anyway...hats off - first of all for this stunning creation and secondly for being such a hardcore "i am gonna do this wether he likes it or not" girl...lol... You have my fullest admiration for this outstanding and brilliant piece of (HARD) work !!! Congrats !!!

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traeumerle62

9:38AM | Thu, 08 March 2007

beautyful done

Thorak

9:40AM | Thu, 08 March 2007

Wow, AWESOME Scene!! Great Reflections, and Clothing!! Nicely done!!

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Storm9167

10:42AM | Thu, 08 March 2007

The lighting look's great, and I love the reflection's!! How do you create those in D/S?? I've not had near the issue's with Daz it appear's you did, but it has given me a reason to utter some pretty unsavory word's a time or three!! Although I guess I must confess life does that alot now that I'm not a good religious person anymore anyhow.. :) Think you're image was worth the hard work though I'm certain you're probably wondering about that yourself!!

watchman2005

12:01PM | Thu, 08 March 2007

Great scene and setting, the dress is fabulous!!!

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thecytron

12:20PM | Thu, 08 March 2007

Very impressive style and composition!

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boris0317

12:22PM | Thu, 08 March 2007

I SO know what you mean! and I have never had more than 7 or 8 lights, I can't imagine 17! and what it must have felt like. I do have a question: Did D/S give you any indication that it was getting ready to crash? I know that poser will start giving me render artifacts when it's getting ready to crap itself. it also starts moving real slow. at that point I know I should shut-down or restart my computer. anyhoo, this is very lovely lighting and a very inviting creature! Shame about the problems, would love to have seen this at its finest Great detail. Excellent! Scott

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Richardphotos

2:55PM | Thu, 08 March 2007

I love how you tied her beautiful gown into the color scheme of the props. this room is some of the premier props I have seen. the realism is awesome as your lighting

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Bonci

3:17PM | Thu, 08 March 2007

Very beautful work!!!

GreyPixel

4:26PM | Thu, 08 March 2007

OMG!! This is just superb!! I cannot imagine how long it takes to render such a masterpiece. Hands down, you're the greatest D|S artist!!

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3Dillusions

9:10PM | Thu, 08 March 2007

How beautiful is this, and why can I not give you more than 5, this is amazing, the reflections are superb, well done :) Angela

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Bernado

10:46AM | Fri, 09 March 2007

I see you learn a lot of vocabulary while doing images. 8-) Fantastic scene and lighting. I think it was worth the effort and all those words. Beautiful character and pose. Nice skin tone. The only thing I don't see well is that on her hand. Is that a handkerchief, smoke?! Great job anyway!

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awadissk

2:07PM | Fri, 09 March 2007

Excellent work!!!!!!!!!!

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cole4965

6:23PM | Fri, 09 March 2007

Wow! You put a lot of work in this! It was worth it! Absolutely fantastic!!!

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pops

11:23PM | Fri, 09 March 2007

Don't know how much better it could have been because this whole image is awesome. orry for all the mishaps,but I loved your story

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J5ive

2:51AM | Sat, 10 March 2007

WOW ! Very Excellent!

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thewarrior

6:47AM | Sat, 10 March 2007

Excellent, and well presented. Congrats

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1010

8:16AM | Sat, 10 March 2007

Well it looks like you finally whipped DS to behaving. Excellent scene, you have a ton of patience.

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louly

8:23AM | Sat, 10 March 2007

Superb scene and lady! She looks very sophisticated and the scene matches her with the grand piano, the marble and the reflections. Beautifully done!

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kobaltkween

8:25AM | Sat, 10 March 2007

love the story! yeah, some days it seems like our programs are trying to drive us crazy. lovely outcome, though. and great warning on the lights. can i suggest light dome pro if you don't have it?

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Hendesse

8:32AM | Sat, 10 March 2007

Fantastic scene. looks outstanding. A masterpiece!

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irakika

8:37AM | Sat, 10 March 2007

Very nice reflection, lighting and textures!

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lior

11:24AM | Sat, 10 March 2007

Very creativ artwork, you've made her so goreous! Thank you for sharing and have a nice evening, Lior

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carlx

11:27AM | Sat, 10 March 2007

Ohhhhhh!!! Wonderful, fantastic and amazing composition!!! Outstanding artwork, bravo!!!

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drifterlee

12:56PM | Sat, 10 March 2007

Worth all the work1 Really stunning render and atmosphere!

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vulcanccit

2:18PM | Sat, 10 March 2007

long time no see, glad you are still around! This is fantastic!!! lovely work, well worth your effort


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