First, I am sorry I have not kept up with your posts I will try to catch up. As some of you know I have had computer problems now for over 6 months which was caused by a defective Nvidia GTX Titan X. I ended up sending the computer back. Because a Nvidia tech over the phone that their current GTX line would not support Iray. I delved into my limited savingsm to buy a Nvidia Quandro P5000 card. Only to fins this card was too pricey and new for DAZ or Poser to support. Only those programs that cost 3000-7000.00 listed on there web sites they supported the card. A DAZ's tech informed me that DAZ would likely not support the card for a long time or ever and suggested I try Octane as a solution. I tried octane demo, as it card was not listed as supported on their web site. It did not work at first but Nvidia came out with a new driver, which actually is less compatible with DAZ and their first version. I was just about to go back to the original driver when I gave Octane one last try and the Demo worked, so I purchased Octane. Right after I purchased Octane tech offer me a 30 trail of full version sating there were still a few bugs with the Pascal chip....sigh. Anyway here is a DAZ rendered quickie in which I reduced the size and quality to medium . It took almost 3 hours to render using CPU and GPU. Octane converts all materials to Octane materials as figures are loaded. I do not know how to turn this function off yet or if I can even do it. As you can see most textures convert OK but the water looks like something out of Poser 5. Octane has a bunch of textures in there online library but I have to learn how to access them and import them to the render. I tried but failed so I will have to learn how.