AMEN! Thanks for posting Stefano. W&M

Nice one, what have u made it with? photoshop?

World leader- stick them on an island and let them sort it out amongst themselves. Anger well vented there Stefano. If only certain people cared as much as you did wars would'nt happen.

I agree..Thanks for posting Stefano!!!!Thanks..

Sei fortunato Stefano, io sono mezzo Inghlese, mezzo Italiano. Io ho due terre di cui ho vergogna. un belissimo immagine, i miei sentiminti su questa guerra inutile e stupida, sono esasatamente come le tue. Grazie!

Happy to hear another voice of reason in this american gallery! Lets hope this will end soon and without victims... With a deep bow to pun and others. Thank You for not beeing indifferent. Bye, chr

Thank you very much for this picture.

Hi Stefano! To say words from the Smith(Morrissey), -better to can say: "There is a light, that never goes out", yes, that good be nice! But it isn't, never, and anywhere. In humans little live-existence, the most is destructiv and violence. "It" was since his first day, and will be forever, in all times. There isn't hope, that he, the human being, can and will "learn". /// Also it is, how i want to say in one of my pics. God is dead. When not, than he is only a old, destructive idiot. He can't and won't help! (Sorry, all you believers...) Unfortunate, and in mourning Th. --- The german nation, -government, isn't so good, as you think. If a other party had the government, germany/-"they" -say also yes. Fuck! --- I can't understand, this and many other things. Th.Linden

WOW - What can I say? I wholeheartedly agree with you and your portrait says it all! Great Job!

I told myself not to comment on pics about this depressing war anymore but for you my friend I'll make an exception. This is a truly beautiful image and I'm really impressed at your conviction to the beliefs that many hold so dearly. I am really saddened by this war. I see all sorts of conflicting comments whenever a war pic is posted. So much anger, a reflection of our sad humanity. Even here in our small renderosity community there is so much disrespect and hostility towards each other's views, opinions, religions and even nationalities. How then can we expect the war to stop? Stefano, I thank you for making us think once again. I only hope that if there won't be peace in this world, at least we can try to have it in our own little communities. We often try to change the world only to realize that we first should have tried to change our country, only to realize that we first should have tried to change our family, only to realize we first should have tried to change ourselves.

Then he will probably enjoy mine as well! Thank you for posting this Stefano!

I'm not specialy proud to be french, but at this moment, a little more...

Great stuff Doublecrash. And Yes StoneyZ I do believe in God just not the same one you do.

Nice image Stefano, All though I personally feel that war/UN 'Policing Action' was inevitable. The UN has failed to act against the attrocities committed by the Iraqi Regime, I believe that the UN should have been the mechanism that brought Saddam to task. The fact that any one of a group of certain countries can Veto a proposal in the UN makes the UN look stupid. All resolutions should be settled by a democratic vote, with no one nation able to hold a resolution to ransom - that's why Blair dropped the last resolution because the UN was not even able to offer a democratic decision, just France's Autocrasy. I also believe (unfortunately) that there is also a push for war in the USA due to economics, as the defence industry is mainly 'home grown' a war kick starts the economy to some extent and I'm sure that Bush knows it. All said and done, I've friends who are still in the forces and I give them my unconditional support, I just want to see a quick resolution, a cease fire and democracy not despotism in Iraq However, StoneyZ - what planet are you on? just because someone thinks differently to you does not mean they don't believe in God and you have no right to post such drivel. If you want to make comment do it by reason and not just by a lit flame.

Hey crash ...I wish I could agree with all of your comments ..but I can't. We have had words before ..and I hope you refer to the bond we formed albeit brief to see through the words that you may not agree with. Know that I see you as the compassionate person you are. Perhaps I can best sum up my thoughts by relating to you a conversation I had last week with a gentlemen from Jordan who is now a landed immigrant here in Canada, he works as a taxi driver and came upon the demonstrations at the U.S. consulate. While he describes himself as a peaceful man, he became enraged when he witnessed the streets full of highschool students (and young adults) opposing the war. He wondered (sarcastically) what little they must think of the Iraqi's who have suffered at the hands of Saddam. These demonstrators must believe that Iraqi's do not deserve the same human rights afforded to them as they sleep in there warm suburban beds and eat fresh food and go to school and express their individuality etc. etc. He wondered where all of these protestors have been for the last few decades as Saddam tightened his grip and performed acts of incredible cruelty against them. They let there misinformation or distrust of American motives propell them to the streets. Do they think I do not see that they are on the streets because they oppose the Americans and not because the care a shred about the Iraqi people? There is no simple answer to these issues and I don't think many would argue the fact that when a situation breaks down into armed conflict both sides have already lost, but I try not to be quick to don the hat of "peace at all costs" ...because I believe the cost for the Iraqi people has been mounting for decades and the world won't know until it's too late what costs the rest of us may have to bear unless someone is more proactive than the U.N. seems to be. As always great thought provoking artwork! with much respect... Luke

The vast majority of the people in every country are against the war but its happening!!! Theres a well orchestrated propaganda from the media (mostly American and British), that are trying to convince us (the people) that this war is about Iraqi Freedom we are not stupid, we can think, we can raise our voice against the greedy warmongering hypocrites stop this unjustified war!!! Stop the war now!!!

Waver... thanx for your comment, but I'm not in your Country. I'm in mine, and I already have some big problems being in it, due mostly to the fact that Italy govt is completely and shamely prone to your country's govt. And, if maybe you can control your language, I will be even more glad to read your future comments. Thanx.

I share your solidarity for the innocents who shall perish in this war.I don't share your sense of shame.This war was provoked by the cruel Saddam's regime, who refused to abide to ONU resolutions in the first place.Did saddam care for his own people? Gimme a break! If he had cared, he would have disarmed to lift the embargo,refrained from persecuting dissidents,kurds and sciites using forbidden weapons. Today, 27 March, British troops have found proofs of the use of chemical weapons. Also, Osama Bin Laden whit his nazi terrorists attacks is in part responsible for having originated the insecurity and fear who drove Bush to this war. I agree whit this: maybe there were other ways to stop Saddam. I truly wish war would become obsolete.

I used to be completely against the war, but then I basically realized that my opinion was being fed almost completly by the war protestors. (Oh, you who said that most of the people in this country are against the war, they've taked huge polls, and more than 60 percent are for the war. True, they could be lying, but on a silent poll, and from what I've seen of most protestors, I doubt it ;) ) I've looked a lot into both sides of the issue, and realize, yes, this war is justified. Saddam is directly going against a treaty signed 10 years ago, he is making weapons of mass destruction. THEY HAVE FOUND THEM! Oh, and each bomb being dropped, they're not just blowing up cities, each bomb is about a million bucks or something, and with that price, they're pretty darn accurate. It is SADDAM who is the enemy. He sends troops into cities and threatens with death those why try to leave or not fight. He puts his tanks and troops in hospitals, and hides in day cares. (Don't worry, we waiting until 6 am to blow it up, so no kids were inside, at least, very few.) I know what you are all thinking! The media is lying! It's worse than it is! No. You guys all know the media! They'll do whatever they can to get people to watch their station! They have reporteres right there! They want to tell whatever will make people watch. If they had a story of americans randomly killing iraqis, they would do it! They know that would rile up people and get more audience! It's all show biz to them. THEY HAVE FOUND LINKS BETWEEN SADDAM AND SEPT. 11!!! And those of you who still claim that Saddam is innocent, he denied having several of certain types of missiles, which he is now using to bomb our troops! This is not Bush's fault! Do you really think that it's all HIS say? No. He can't just wake up one morning and say, "I think I'll bomb Iraq". There are supreme courts or whatever! I think. I'm not that good with all the political stuff. Oh, and those of you saying we're just doing it for oil, just wait. Really. You'll see we wont. It doesn't make sense. Why would we take oil, if we're trying to help them REBUILD their country? we give them 10 bill a year after the war to help rebuild! Crazyness. We are not taking reckless action, We are not getting revenge, we are insuring the safety of Kuwait, the USA, and even the iraqis, and all those who live in a world where men like Saddam are considered the "good guys". Well, just throught we could use some opinions from the other side. (And by the way, great picture! I love the grain and the colorization! It's wonderful!)

CANADA SUPPORTS THE USA!!!... I know I can't speak for all Canadians, but damn it all to hell if don't speak up now. I understand there are alot of compassionate and opinionated people in this world. And it would be something GREAT if we could all just get along. But we can't. We are human, and thus are flawed by our own acord. And so I ask you that if THIS war is not appropriate, then which war is? .. Why does ANY country have to wait until someone attacks them before they defend themselves? ... Terror is a threat to every nation.. An attack on Iraq is an attack on Terrorism... Period!

vetteracer: FYI, I always accepted educated, polite comments and exchanges with anybody, even those that don't share my view of the world.

Ah, but I see that yours is another empty gallery... 'nuff said :)

Here once it is again, until the moderatores remove it once more..(oh BTW. Just because I have nothing in my gallery yet, doesn't mean you are an artist!FACT.) This is junk propaganda of a liberal view! Shame on you!! hmmm I wander if the iraqi soldier who hid behind the little girl would agree with you, he got her killed and then left her for the Americans to see and to be haunted by forever. Dash101 I applaud you!, well said. This is not collateral damage, they chose to stay. Don't kid yourself, I was there, they can get out. Who in there right mind allows children to play in the steets of bagdad while the American/British forces are bombing? Get them inside or out of town and PROTECT them with all means possible. Don't allow them to die just to make a point. No one is trying to harm the non-combatives(women and children). So stop all the cry baby slander, wake up, it's the 21st century... May God Bless all those brave souls who are willing to stand up and be counted and do the right thing. ---

pdarling99, you're absolutely right, the fact that your gallery is empty doesn't mean that I am an artist, but it means that I don't take into any whatsoever serious account YOUR comments on my "images" (let's not call them art, ok?). Is that clear? --- I really hope so, because this will be the last time I answer to you. I have barely the time (and the pleasure, believe me) to answer (and, why not, to argue and discuss and politely exchange different opinions) with lots of intelligent people here in R'osity. Not your same bunch, I fear.

Doublecrash: I will say this, I have as much of value in my gallery as you do in yours. I will not be posting any furthur comments, as you appear unable to mount any kind of serious defense for your position. Your opinion of "I'm mad and want everyone to know, but can't really tell you why" is fine by me and I will leave you alone about it.

Doublecrash, the idea you're trying to portray is quite noble; peace is a very beautiful concept. Unfortunately we live in a world of humanity, and humanity has been, is, and always will be warlike creatures. What actually bothers me is the fact that you believe that the UK/US coalition is specifically targeting innocents and children is actually quite absurd. But that is beside the point. The message youre trying to convey is quite clear, but I think it should be done more clearly. The image quality is quite low, and is a tough composite to read. (On a side note, if there is any nuclear bomb usage in Iraq it will be done by the Iraqi regime not the coalition) Ive casually been reading some of the post on this image, and yes there is enough flaming going on between the posters and yourself to take down a large cyber-forest, but please understand the caption that is underneath the image seems to me that you invite it with Now, if you like, flame on... :( I dont point fingers; I just make observations. I find this (both the composite and the attitude in which it was presented) to be very unprofessional. Please Take Care :)

Alliante, you may be right in what you say, for sure your words are making me think about it. As for the image itself, I accept your critic because it's the very first time I post anything did in 2D instead of 3D and, althoug I did my best to convey my message, I'm aware that the image itself could be flawed. __ As for the message I wanted to convey, yes, it's exactly what bothers you so much: I'm not saying that I believe that UK and US forces are deliberately targeting innocents, but I do believe that those same forces aren't worried a bit about what damage to innocent people massive bombing could do and, in fact, that this is the least of the worries of the attacking forces. You of course have the right to disagree on this issue, but please note that a very important line in the caption of my image reads "protect the lives of all the innocent people, the bombed Iraqis, the US and UK common men and women who are doing their horrible duty without enjoying it". This said, I'm glad (at last!) to being able to answer and accept some constructive criticism, although I think that, if my composition is likely unprofessional, my presentation of it couldn't be judged with the same meter. Take care and thanks for expressing your thoughts without recurring to insults.

vetteracer: I could tell you why I'm mad, but it would be a total waste of time and words and reasoning. Pal, your gallery is empty, so, if you have one which isn't, I wonder why you're using another name to voice your... er, "opinions".

What a bunch of C#*#!.... If the US didn't worry about the innocent people. They would just "carpet bomb" the place and drop a few MOABs and no US or UK soldiers would have to die. The war would be over in 24 hours.

very well done image, on a side note to anyone that cares the body count is around 2500, so innocent people ARE dying. Nobody said innocent people are being directly targeted, but they are getting killed, and its not really the US or UK troop's fault, it that "president" that sits in the white house. But I am in no way condoning what Saddam has done, he has indeed cause immense suffering to his people, but yhy didn't any of you people care about the Iraqis ten years ago when he was actually committing the cirmes? Also, why did the US sell him the helicopters and gas to use against his own people also, since when has the US been parading around the world PREVENTING human rights abuse? Why doesnt Bush make a real move to solve the problems between Palestine and Isreal? (I wont even get into whos "fault it is") But why would the US give all kinds of weapons and money to one side, and do absolutely nothing for the other side? The Hypocracy and double standards inherate in "operation Iraqi Freedom" are so blatently obvious I cant believe so many people are complacent with this whole escapade.

After all the USA approved looting the thousands of Iraqi dead and the complete lack of WMD...I think game and match go to Doublecrash. At this point only an Idiot would believe the "war" was justified.

Everything in our age conspires to turn the writer, and every other kind of artist as well, into a minor official, working on themes handed down from above and never telling what seems to him the whole of the truth....The organized lying practiced by totalitarian states is not, as is sometimes claimed, a temporary expedient of the same nature as military deception. It is something integral to totalitarianism, something that would still continue even if concentration camps and secret police forces had ceased to be necessary....Totalitarianism demands, in fact, the continuous alteration of the past, and in the long run probably demands a disbelief in the very existence of objective truth. The friends of totalitarianism in this country usually tend to argue that since absolute truth is not attainable, a big lie is no worse than a little lie. It is pointed out that all historical records are biased and inaccurate, or on the other hand, that modern physics has proven that what seems to us the real world is an illusion, so that to believe in the evidence of one's senses is simply vulgar philistinism. A totalitarian society which succeeded in perpetuating itself would probably set up a schizophrenic system of thought, in which the laws of common sense held good in everyday life and in certain exact sciences, but could be disregarded by the politician, the historian, and the sociologist........To keep the matter in perspective, let me repeat what I said at the beginning of this essay: that in England the immediate enemies of truthfulness, and hence of freedom of thought, are the press lords, the film magnates, and the bureaucrats, but that on a long view the weakening of the desire for liberty among the intellectuals themselves is the most serious symptom of all....... Totalitarianism, however, does not so much promise an age of faith as an age of schizophrenia. A society becomes totalitarian when its structure becomes flagrantly artificial: that is, when its ruling class has lost its function but succeeds in clinging to power by force or fraud. Such a society, no matter how long it persists, can never afford to become either tolerant or intellectually stable. It can never permit either the truthful recording of facts or the emotional sincerity that literary creation demands. But to be corrupted by totalitarianism one does not have to live in a totalitarian country. The mere prevalence of certain ideas can spread a kind of poison that makes one subject after another impossible for literary purposes. Wherever there is an enforced orthodoxy -- or even two orthodoxies, as often happens -- good writing stops. This was well illustrated by the Spanish civil war. To many English intellectuals the war was a deeply moving experience, but not an experience about which they could write sincerely. There were only two things that you were allowed to say, and both of them were palpable lies: as a result, the war produced acres of print but almost nothing worth reading....as I have tried to show -- certain that literature is doomed if liberty of thought perishes. Not only is it doomed in any country which retains a totalitarian structure; but any writer who adopts the totalitarian outlook, who finds excuses for persecution and the falsification of reality, thereby destroys himself as a writer. There is no way out of this. No tirades against "individualism" and the "ivory tower," no pious platitudes to the effect that "true individuality is only attained through identification with the community," can get over the fact that a bought mind is a spoiled mind. 1946 George Orwell, The Prevention of Literature