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Subject: Preliminary Victoria 3 renders (with Daz's permission)


PheonixRising ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 5:50 PM

file_36529.jpg

Hi there, Here is another shot showing some of her new clothing material zones to be used with Spandex, STockings, Gloves etc. Also shows the new conforming hair. It is the hair I showed months ago but has been reworked as a fully conforming figure in the tradition of the old Conforming Curls. Long her figures can be made for her where they Couldn't on Vicki 1 & 2. The hair hair stays on the body and moves with the neck, shoulders, and head. Question: No she isn't in Platinum Club but Platinum CLub Members get to weild their helfty bonus discount. Old poses are partially compatible but they won't make full use of her improvements. You sould make new poses to really make the most of her. It is like using Possette poses on Vicki 2.

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
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Momcat ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 5:54 PM

Just a curious question that popped into my head: Can she wiggle her toes?


pdxjims ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 6:02 PM

hmmmph... She's still not on sale. Grumble... Checking daily. Of course, I'd love to see the hinted "Male Morphs". And I'm waiting for Mike 3. As always, I'll buy her the first day. Along with the new clothing pack and first textures. Sigh... It's gonna be a cold Christmas for the kids. No - wait. I don't have kids! Yippee!


PheonixRising ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 6:04 PM

PS: Just to be clear she isn't wearing clothing. Just a few material colors and a eweave map to those material zones. Pdxjims, Though her toes are not parts like the fingers, there are a bunch of wiggle, aticulation, shaping, and movement morphs for the toes. So yes they wiggle. :) Anton

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Mosca ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 6:18 PM

Why do I get the feeling I'm being ignored?


milamber42 ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 6:22 PM

Please do not wait to release her late on 12/24 and then not have anybody around when the store gets overloaded and crashes. What can I say? I'm a pessimist :)


Dave-So ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 6:32 PM

Have to say she looks pretty damn good...complete, anatomically correct genitals, or not....plus, none of us do naked women anyway.

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Momcat ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 6:40 PM

Speak for yourself Dave >^_~


PheonixRising ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 6:56 PM

Mosca, Noone is trying to ignore you. This isn't a full Press release. :) Just started as a few renders. We're crazy busy tring to finish her. It depends. If the curvature and crease of a vagina is what you mean then you will be happy. If you are wanting an opening that you can see inside then no. Anything more than the shape of a vagina takes her into the sex doll area. If he have a vagina, people will then want more detail in there and morphs to open it and close it. Next thing you know they want maps and props and are making it Mimic compatible. We all know a huge part of the Poser community is making adult content. We have gone the way of abnormally large breasts but a morphing vagina is not how we want to market her. There is enough geometry to morph an opening but we are not going to be the ones to do it. :) She is unwrapped well enough to texture it as well in that area. Hope this clears it up. I said way more than I should but just to put it plainly it can be done but someone else will have to make the morphs. :) As far as the packs go we are still sorting the content. no info to give you. Hope this helps. Lol. I love you guys but your relentless. LOL Off to sleep soon. LOTR tomorrow, Anton

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Orio ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 7:03 PM

"Next thing you know they want maps and props and are making it Mimic compatible." ROTFL! After having read this, I definitely know that I do NOT have a perverse mind... if someone else can think of such a deviation, that I would have never imagined! LOL! ;-) (just kidding!) :-)


PheonixRising ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 7:16 PM

Okay I just gave her a full exam. Yes she has, with morphs, a Vaginia. Lips and little folds. Like the ears there is no cavity. More of a Vaginal Crease. Happy? :P I am so embarrassed.........not really. So much for discretion and dignity. I have never used the word vagina so many times in one paragraph. :) PS: Don't dare ask for pictures... LOL

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MachineClaw ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 7:18 PM

ROTFL the things some companies do to please customers hahahahahaha!


Mosca ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 7:19 PM

Thanks, Anton, but to be honest a crease doesn't sound all that promising--women don't have creases, they have vaginas. I'm not asking for open/close morphs (no plans to perform a V3 pelvic exam), just the same degree of anatomical detail present in Mike--the external stuff; clitoris, labia majora and minora. I really don't understand the reluctance, especially given Mike 2's highly detailed equipment, complete with various sizing morphs. The morph/pack issue is problematic, too--I'm not going to be a happy camper if I have to buy 37 aftermarket morph packs to get the complete V3 package.


Mosca ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 7:21 PM

Woops--looks like we cross-posted. Ok, cool, thanks--just tell me the morph-pack thing isn't going to suck.


PheonixRising ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 7:21 PM

Mosca, think happy thoughts. You'll like it. Don't panic in advance.

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danfarr ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 7:23 PM

Mosca,

I don't want you to develope a complex or anything:) We are currently working out the pricing structure so I have not wanted to reply until we have it locked down. But in the meantime, here is a brief answer to your question without the pricing. The base figure will have morphs to improve posing as well as the spandex morph and the facial expressions and phonemes. We will also have a body morph add-on set and a facial morph add-on set to get all of the versatility that you would expect. I can say that the pricing in our oppinion is very agressive and will provide a good opportunity for customers of varying budgets to buy in at a level that they are comfortable with.

Dan Farr


spudgrl ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 7:49 PM

Im glad to hear that. Since i gotta butter up the hubby to get it for me. :) if she isnt to drasticly priced I think I can swing it. Plus I got the platinum club as well. :) I really excited about the new morphs and the way they are gonna be done. she looks great! Big thank U in adavance to you all. :)


spudgrl ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 7:50 PM

dam typos...Im excited not I. :(


Mosca ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 8:10 PM

"I don't want you to develope a complex or anything:)" A new one, you mean. Thanks for the quick response, Dan. Looking forward to V3, and Studio (especially since I tossed my Poser disk a couple of months ago).


Redfern ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 8:27 PM

I fear I may have created my own quirky reputation here at Renderosity. Several members probably expect me to ask the following question. Let me not disappoint them. Will one of the morph add-on packages allow me to "mutate" her into an anthropomorphic character, say a felinoid? Actually the existing ones for Victoria 2 work decently enough, especially with the right textures (ie, the "Fantasy Feline" pack), except for the ears. Will you release a pack that will create a more animalistic or feral appearance with truer cat-like ears? Hey, if the others can ask about, ahem, feminine anatomy, surely I shouldn't be chastised for asking this. ;-) Sincerely, Bill

Tempt the Hand of Fate and it'll give you the "finger"!


danfarr ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 8:42 PM

Bill, We do have a cat face and ears with V3 but I can't promise whether or not it will meet your expectations. Dan Farr P.S. When Anton gets a chance maybe he can post an image for you.


Redfern ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 9:02 PM

Oh my, have I become so predictably annoying? ;-) Immediately afterwards, this thread will be barraged with a hundred new entries replying, "YES!" Hey, just trying to keep it lighthearted. Sincerely, Bill P.S. Thanks for the direct reply, Mr. Farr. Seriously, I do feel honored.

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Crescent ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 9:45 PM

Any way to see a picture of the male body morphs? (I just need to see if I'm going to buy Vicki the first day or if I'm going to sprain my wrist from whipping out the credit card in a crazed frenzy 2 seconds after I see the release.) ;-)


ElorOnceDark ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 10:00 PM

Thanks for the hair info Anton. It looks great!


Dave-So ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 10:22 PM

Well, I don't do naked women, so that mimic compatible vagina really doesn't interest me all that much... is there anyone here that does naked women ????

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Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
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Migal ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 10:29 PM

Dan, I think the way you're doing the morphs separately is great. This allows consumers not to have to pay for some of the morphs they don't want, and it also allows us to avoid unwanted morphs eating RAM. I mean, we've all got our own thing, and I'm probably gonna take a pass on the "hideously obese" Vicki pack, if it is available. I'm still stoked about that wrist tendon. :-) And Anton, your recent image makes the new mat zones quite clear (and logical). I definitely jumped the panic gun on that one. Thanks again. And btw, I had no idea you were such a cool and funny dude. Much props to you. Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta line for a hobbit thing.


Dave-So ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 10:33 PM

Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta line for a hobbit thing. what be that???

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Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
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spudgrl ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 10:42 PM

lord of the rings:two towers? yeah we are getting our butts in the line as well. :)


Bobasaur ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 10:43 PM

...the Mac user hopes the Morph Injection thing will work on his beloved Mac, too. "Hmmm. I've heard they're injecting silicone through the armpits now - I just never expected it through a pose file. But wait - what if this only works with P5 pose files!!"

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Dave-So ( ) posted Tue, 17 December 2002 at 10:47 PM

AH...thought so :) LOR... I get a free showing...but not opening day...

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elgyfu ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 1:15 AM

Is this getting too exciting or what. Tell you what, if you put Victoria 3 in the Platinum Club you will have EVERYONE joining within days - even the Mousie couldn't have that pulling power! Seriously, she looks lovely and I so want her now. Please get her up soon, don'e leave it too near Christmas or we will all neglect our families and that would be you fault and very Grinch like of you, wouldn't it ;)


akin_ ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 3:06 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! Right Point of view elgyfu ! =) Dan ? You would not do that I hope.... You won't dare to be a major reason of Christmas Family internal Disaster.... ???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! Anyway, it would also certainly be the better Christmas of all lone poser users ! 8) Any un-official countdown ?? ;) A'kin


Philywebrider ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 4:42 AM

"As I mentioned in an earlier post we are planning to release Victoria 3 prior to Christmas. But if we are really lucky we may have her for sell later this week" Well today is Wednesday, tommorrow is Thursday, the next day Friday the 18th, that's 3 more days for this week. Christmas is next Wednesday...I predict sometime in the next 7 days V3 will be released.


Philywebrider ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 4:46 AM

Err...Make that Friday the 20th. :oP


Philywebrider ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 4:55 AM

DAZ Is there a special time of day you post new items? If you can't tell the day, (for what ever reason), can you tell the time? It seems to me the time is something you can control. Whatever day you get the go ahead to post, you just post it at a specific time, It would save me a lot of checking.


PheonixRising ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 6:50 AM

file_36530.jpg

Hi there. Here is a pic with the feline face and ears on. I didn't turn any body dials. As you can see we fixed the twist dials on Vicki's arms and legs so her limbs don't deform like a corkscrew when they twist. We release when ever we are able to. Midwest 9-6 usually Mon - Fri. Injection works on Mac, Poser 5, ProPack, etc. Injection at this resolution takes several minutes but it so work it. I particularly like being able to remove morphs with them. I don't use phoenemes so I never installed them. I am reluctant to show the male morph yet because we don't have a male texture done. He might look silly. I'll try. Anton

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Dave-So ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 7:45 AM

I've been waiting for a bent arm/leg image :) sorry to say this with all the excitement building..I will buy her anyway...but don't the elbow creases stll look caved in or something...kinda squashed at the seam..I'm sitting here looking at my arm...it doesn't do that...plus the elbow on the left side looks pretty darn pointy...can that point be tweaked down a bit? Suppose it could be rounded a bit in post, but... The knewws appear much better, at least from this angle..the rest is fabulous

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Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
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akin_ ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 7:59 AM

I totally stick to Dave-So point of view..... =) Any pic of elbow creases Anton ? Surely you did not miss that point ! We all know that ! ;) Cheers, A'kin


PheonixRising ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 9:21 AM

Yes Dave it can be tweaked. There are morphs. I like the way the arm creases. It is a pretty crease though. Mine does do that. :) If you don't like the elbow you can morph it. Don't worry about sounding negative. She is a good as we could build her using Poser's system. We have reached this software's limits. Sorry if that is a bummer in some way. Sounds like you are also ready for something without posing limitations. :) Anton

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
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saxon ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 9:30 AM

I'd still like to know whether she'll accept new IK's better than previous versions. There are at least two alternative IK's and one additional that are practically essential and at the moment none of the millenium figures can do this as well as Eve...


PheonixRising ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 9:41 AM

Saxon, I remember the older Eve 3.0 when I was using Posette. Eve was much better and I am sure is still a great piece of work. It is always good to have alternatives. We will always look to learn and grow. Always feel free to drop email. Anton

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Momcat ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 9:51 AM

I do wish there was some way to make POser figures bend their legs (like this sitting position) without having it look as if the legs are just stuck onto the hip. I've always hated that crease. That elbow bend is lovely though. Much more natural, and no crunchies


PheonixRising ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 10:15 AM

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Momcat, I'm sure you know taht there are shaping morphs so let me anwer this a different way. We created a huge array of complete ethic faces to be used as bases as well. The Ethnic faces were made uniquely by hand oppose to using the existing shaping morphs. This way more varieties of faces are possible. The faces, like this one, can be created by simply blending the enthnic morphs. Or you can launch into your own from that starting point.

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Philywebrider ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 10:33 AM

"Don't worry about sounding negative. She is a good as we could build her using Poser's system. We have reached this software's limits. Sorry if that is a bummer in some way. Sounds like you are also ready for something without posing limitations. :)" Is that "something" DAZ STUDIO? or do you have another surprise in the works? ;o)


Philywebrider ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 10:49 AM

The statements "We have reached this software's limits..." and "Sounds like you are also ready for something without posing limitations.", are very interesting statements, Particulary coming from DAZ. I hope DAZ has something in mind, because DAZ in in a position to do "something" about the "posing limitations". I'm "ready for something without posing limitations". Bring it on DAZ, you're the company that can do it.


Momcat ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 10:52 AM

That is a nice eye shape. It's not so easy to get a narrow, or deep crease on the existing figures without having the eyeball clip through. Are the ethnic morphs going to be packaged seperately, and will they be sets of seperated morphs, or full face morphs to blend? What I mean is; will I be able to mix a french nose, with slavic cheekbones, nordic eyes, and a thai mouth; or would I be working with whole face shapes to try to achieve the effect I want? It sounds like you folks at DAZ have really been working hard to give us as versatile a figure as possible. I like the idea of breaking the morph packages up into themes (if that's how you're doing it). It will save a lot of space and be much less confusing if you only have to have the parameters you need installed for a given character. How will this affect distribution of new characters? I imagine it will make things even easier.


Philywebrider ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 10:54 AM

V3 looks like a terrific product, she can be used in commerical products like, book covers, cards, etc, correct? I hope with all the morphs/plugins/add ons etc, it is not a problem.


FlyByNight ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 10:57 AM

Had Judy looked anything near as lovely as this model, I would have purchased Poser 5. Now I'm waiting for Daz Studio because I already like what I've seen of it so far, and, Victoria 3 of course. I love my Vic2 but you have made so many improvements, those awful brows are gone, the eyes, lids, lashes and shadows cast within the eye itself look so much better, good reflections too, the nostril glow is gone, eyebrows look real, neckline is excellent, she's just lovely. Thanks again for sharing all these renders with us, I think this is the longest thread I've ever read. :o)

FlyByNight


elgyfu ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 11:13 AM

Argh! Put us out of our misery, will you. I have spent so long drooling over these pictures that my husband thinks I have fallen for another woman! Actually, he has 'admired' her too! I want a Vicky3, please please Santa, I have been so good!


Chris ( ) posted Wed, 18 December 2002 at 11:38 AM

what I see is a great figure with lot of possibilities, but what do we get with the "Standard Victoria 3", what will be sold seperately? We will see :) I'm very curious too to see more of Vicky 3 but give DAZ their time to make a good working product. I have no problem with it to wait a little bit longer. OK OK ... I can't wait for her too ;) Chris

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