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Subject: New in the Free Stuff: the TARDIS


JHoagland ( ) posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 7:58 PM · edited Thu, 09 January 2025 at 4:27 PM

Attached Link: http://www.cocs.com/poser/goodies.htm#tardis

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After a year and a half, it's finally finished! Okay, it didn't really take a year and a half to make... I've had the idea to make this model since at least July 2001 (maybe earlier)! It's always been on my "to do" list, but I was always busy with other projects that I never took the time to just sit down and make it! So, at long last, here it is. Made in Lightwave, built from illustrations and measurements found in the *Doctor Who Technical Manual*, UV Mapped with UVMapper, and then scaled and converted to a Poser prop. This is a free download and you may use it however you wish, but watch out for any copyright issues. The shape is actually the 1950's/ 1960's police box used in the United Kingdom. However, the likeness is now associated with the *Doctor Who* TV show, which owned by the BBC. And I made the Lightwave and Poser model. So who owns the "copyright"- public domian usage, the UK police, the BBC, or me? :) --John


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JeffH ( ) posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 8:26 PM

Very cool. Thanks.


melanie ( ) posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 8:27 PM

Wow! I love it! One of my all time favorite shows. I've had the pleasure of meeting several of the Doctors at conventions over the years, so this is a real treat for my Poser universe. Thanks so much! Melanie


VIDandCGI ( ) posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 8:36 PM

J, looks great...you might try running it through UVmapper and either welding or splitting surfaces to get rid of some of the misc. shadows that appear on the flat surfaces which method you use depends on how the mesh was built :)


Crescent ( ) posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 8:38 PM

Bless you! Bless you! Bless you! You really brought a smile to this Whovian! :-) I got to see Jon Pertwee (really funny guy - he yelled at me when I walked in late to the convention!), Tom Baker, and Peter Davidson (on his birthday) at various conventions along with several of the supporting cast members. I still have my extra long scarf although I don't have my sonic screwdriver any more. Do the doors open, or do we need to trick it with transparency maps? Either way, thanks sooooo much!!!!!!!


melanie ( ) posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 8:49 PM

Wow! I met Jon Pertwee, too. Also Tom Baker, Peter Davison, and Colin Baker as well as several companions. Wonderful people, all of them. All the people I met at the Visions conventions were fantastic. Wonderful memories. This TARDIS is just a real treat to go with the K-9, Dalek, and the long scarf I've collected from Free Stuff over time. I wonder when someone is going to construct a TARDIS interior with the console and the roundels on the walls. That would be fun. (hint hint) :) Melanie


BeatYourSoul ( ) posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 9:12 PM

Bas-ards! I've never met any of them, but I watched the show as a kid (Jon Pertwee) and rediscovered it with the indomitable Tom Baker. So, if you open the doors, is there a full TARDIS inside? :)


Patricia ( ) posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 11:14 PM

This is turning into a Who-Con :) Cool. I got into doing science fiction art when I discovered Dr. Who fandom back in the early 80's in Southern Florida. Over the years, I met all but the first and the last Doctor, and Colin Baker became a friend....Many, many wonderful memories! And boy, could I ever use a Tardis---you should see my art studio! :) This is a beautiful model, thank you for making it free, too :)


Little_Dragon ( ) posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 11:16 PM

The problem with constructing a TARDIS interior is that the set often changed radically from season to season.



daverj ( ) posted Fri, 17 January 2003 at 11:44 PM

Plus you would need a dimensional stabilizer to fit all that interior into the tardis .OBJ ;~}


Charlie_Tuna ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 12:06 AM

I've met both John Pertwee and Tony Ainly (The Master) at a con in Columbus,OH years ago and have planes to make a smal K-9 but never got around to doing it. Interior shots could be fiddled with by using pics and just creating the control column so people can be seen behind it

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chohole ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 1:29 AM

"So who owns the "copyright"- public domian usage, the UK police, the BBC, or me? :)" There was quite a debate about this not so very long ago, when our Police force wanted some of the BBC's royalties. Don't know if it ever got sorted. I used Geralday's Tardis in a couple of images, and built my own interior using Bryce.

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_dodger ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 2:18 AM

JHoagland: Recommendation: detach all the faces pointing in a given direction that aren't supposed to be smoothed. Actually, I'll download this and send you an updated OBJ, okay?


_dodger ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 5:17 AM

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JHoagland: I emailed you an updated ZIP at the email in your README. Feel free to use this or discard it as you see fit. B^)


_dodger ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 5:20 AM

BTW, if you wanted to do any further modification -- a little chunk of one of my lightsabre blades could be placed inside the light with a shrink morph dial to make it able to flash on and off.


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 6:10 AM

who has the royalties.. yes this was resolved... the BBC won. the Police Box now effectively belongs tho them.. which is ironic, since the Police designed the box.. and the BBC used it without permission... nice work btw:)



melanie ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 7:47 AM

Oh, Heavens, no one could make an entire interior! It was infinite. I was really referring to just the control room, which really didn't change much, other than the old wood paneled one, but I had a weakness for the standard white room with circled walls and the dysfunctional control console. Even just the console with morphable central column, so it will go up and down, would be enough, and the background could be improvised. Patricia, did you ever have any connection with the Guardians of Gallifrey down in Florida? I had a very nice, long-distance membership going with them, way over here in Oregon. They used some of my artwork on their newsletter covers and one made the cover of one of the yearbooks, plus some of my stories got published through them. I love this thread! Melanie


melanie ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 7:50 AM

Just as an aside, Anthony Ainley saw one of the Guardians of Gallifrey newsletter covers with an image I did of him (pencil drawing) and he was so impressed, he wrote to me and sent me a little autographed picture of himself. I wrote back to thank him, and he even answered me back! I was lucky enough to meet him, also, and he's a very gracious man. Melanie


Crescent ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 9:59 AM

I'm jealous - I loved Anthony Ainley as the Master. Now that was a villain!


JHoagland ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 2:52 PM

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A big thank you to _dodger who sent me an adjusted version of the model. Now, the "reflecting" surfaces are flat... as they should be! The light on top should still be yellow, though. :) I've uploaded the adjusted model to my website, so everyone can go download it. *So, if you open the doors, is there a full TARDIS inside? :)* I tried that, but Poser gave me an error message: "Can not enclose mutli-dimensional object within Poser prop.". Oh, well, maybe in a future version of Poser... :-) --John


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_dodger ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 3:06 PM

I think Poser 7 will include the Relative Dimensions Room, along with the Scent Room B^)


_dodger ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 3:09 PM

BTW, I was actually thinking about making it posable, so you could open the doors, and adding a flat panel inside on which to place a picture of the inside (which would allow for the illusion of an inside, especially if it used a white ambience) But for the life of me I could not for some reason remember if the door opens door-style or accordiion-style.


_dodger ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 3:11 PM

Come to think of it, when I was watching DW a lot it was on a black and white telly. Hmm. Maybe the light is only blue on my TARDIS in my mind L


BeatYourSoul ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 3:45 PM

Both the outside and inside doors open door-style. They both open inwards, IIRC, the inner set opening and closing automatically.


JHoagland ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 3:52 PM

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Okay, another big thanks to Dodger for his help... I've turned my just-okay TARDIS prop into a much better-looking model! Anyway, I've updated my zip file with the latest version- this one doesn't need the base obj file. The geometry is now entirely within the pp2 prop file. Here's what the TARDIS looks like with "global illumination" lighting. And, yes, this was rendered in Poser and then exported as a jpg. P.S. The doors open to the inside, hinged at the outer edge. The Doctor only uses the door on the right (the one with the handle and without the signage), but both doors can be opened to let in larger objects. P.P.S. How can the light look "blue" on a black & white telly? Shouldn't it be gray? :-) Technically, though, the light on top should be clear most of the time. It only turned color when the TARDIS was appearing or disappearing. And even then, the color may have changed over the seasons from blue to yellow to orange to white. --John


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_dodger ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 5:03 PM

Seems to me letting larger things into teh TARDIS always led to unrest. I have a colourful imagination, what can I say B^) But if you wanted to be a purist purist, the light would have started out grey -- along with everything else grey -- all the tellys were B&W back then (and so was the BBC) B^P heheh. Just as a note JH, it's actually generally preferred to have an external OBJ file rather than the onject in the PP2. When Poser first loads up one from an external OBJ it creates a geometry RSR, which is a compiled, binary geometry. If the RSR is there after that, it doesn't need to read it in again. In a PP2, however, the CustomGeom is actually an uncompiled OBJ and it has to be read in and translated each time, not just the first. Your prop is so small it really doesn't matter, but if your next item is much bigger you may want to give some serious thought to the seperate-OBJ approach. Personally, whenever I download something with internal geometry I extract the OBJ and seperate it out if I intend to use it more than once. Oh, hey -- as a PS -- youmight want to leave a PNG thumbnail in there for the PPP and P5 folks. It doesn't bother me (I'm on 4.0.3) but I've seen long discussions in the Product Showcase forum about what people wish merchants would do, and the PNG and RSR both thing is on th top of the list.


_dodger ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 5:08 PM

the inner set opening and closing automatically Hmm, now this part I'm pretty sure on -- the inner doors, once you entered the console room, at least during Tom Baker's stay, were controlled through a thing that looked like an oversized joystick with a big red ball (okay, a big grey ball, but it seemed red to me) on the side near the door. This pushed outwards to open and inwards to close, which was useful as it was often used by people like Turlough charging into the TARDIS with some large nasty evil thing on their heels and pushing the lever in was in accordance with their direction of momentum, so they'd come crashing in, hit the lever and close the door, and then sirt of hang there on the lever like a gimp.


_dodger ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 5:10 PM

You know, now I'm going to have to try and see if Blockbuster has any old episodes for hire so I can capture stills and build the console room itself...


Little_Dragon ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 5:13 PM

I had intended to post this earlier, but was sidetracked. For future reference purposes ... images of the TARDIS interior. Check out the various generations of the console room and controls:

http://www.crosswinds.net/~tardisrooms/tardisrooms/pictures/index.html And yes, you're right about the door lever, _dodger. :)



_dodger ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 5:36 PM

Cool site. Except: Warning to anyone who goes there: turn on your anti-popup software or turn off your javascript before you go.


Little_Dragon ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 7:20 PM

Sorry about that. I suppose I've grown accustomed to popups as a way of 'Net life.

For those of us with players, a goodly number of episodes are available on DVD now, especially those from the Tom Baker era. The BBC even has the entire Key to Time saga (all 26 episodes) as a box set, complete with audio commentary tracks, production notes, and photo galleries.



JHoagland ( ) posted Sat, 18 January 2003 at 11:24 PM
  1. How do you remove the obj information from a pp2 file or make the pp2 reference an external obj file? Can you make a tutorial? :) 2) Yep, a number of episodes have been released on DVD, including episodes from almost every Doctor and the FOX TV movie (the 8th Doctor). Check Amazon.com- they may still have The Five Doctors (Special Edition) DVD. What's "special edition" about it? The other 3 Doctors, after Peter Davidson, show up- courtesy of CG effects and the magic of time-travel! Just kidding! Or am I... I suppose I've grown accustomed to popups as a way of 'Net life. No, no, no!!! We have to stop this wretched practice now! Are telemarkers something you've "grown accustomed to" during dinner?? EVERYONE needs to install pop-up blocking software so these "marketers" get the idea that Internet users DO NOT want these pop-up (or pop-under) "ads"... nor do we want cookies from them either! Stop reading this and go get Ad-Subtract or Pop-Up Blocker or something like that now! Sorry for the rant, now back to our regularly scheduled discussion... --John


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_dodger ( ) posted Sun, 19 January 2003 at 12:18 AM
  1. the easy way is to export the item as a wavefront OBJ from poser's Export menu. The harder way (which the perlscript I use uses) is to grab all the valid OBJ data in the customGeom block and place it in a text file on my own. Either way, once you have the OBJ out just look at the prop file I sent for how to point the PP2 at it -- the numbers do not change. 2) Cool! If I could only grab stills from DVD -- but my DVDRom wont let me. 3) I use Popup Killer (PUK) but it's no longer supported -- but I still have it.


Charlie_Tuna ( ) posted Sun, 19 January 2003 at 12:40 AM

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For those that want to do some tardis interiors here's the background from that site. netscape 7 lets you look at background pics :-)

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_dodger ( ) posted Sun, 19 January 2003 at 12:49 AM

Yah, so does IE4 and up. It took Netscape until 7 to implement that? Ergh. No wonder I've never wanted to use it. Though technically even Mosaic 2 did that in a way. If you can View Source you can see what the backround image is.


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