Hi, the male morphs are really great and much more realistc than the Mikes. I already wrote to the webmaster at DAZ but until now I've got no reply. So here again ... Do you think that DAZ or any of our specialists will build a "Willy" morph target or something like that which will make the male V3 become a real man - I mean give him genitals? Bernie

Dunno, but I'm sure you could give him/her a cigar B^)

You might want to check Bbay.com, they have a prop for that. Marque

Even if they do it will not be as good as the one at BBay from Digiport. http://www.bbay.com/cfwebstore/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=493 I think yop will have to sighn up at BBay to be able to buy it, but it is worth buying.

I posted a similar query earlier and was given the url of a tutorial by Storm. It works reall;y well. The url is:- http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=567839 Hope this helps Alex

There's also one available at one of the yahoo groups that someone came up with to replace Mike's. Group is called gayposerart. You might want to check there as well. Dave

I thought I could tolerate the disfigured male V3, considering that I only wanted to experiment with it for now, but it is just too disgusting, both in principle and aesthetically. Like what artist would be neutral about working with a female with her breasts chopped off? So I guess I will have to shell out for some genitals. The bbay set does look okay, but it says it is for mike 2. Right? Would there be a trick to using it with V3? Also, it is not clear from the blurb what one does about texture. How would one apply that? And if one bought a body texture such as Brad from Renderosity, then a genital texture would have to be added on? Right? Would that be difficult?

Vicki3 male is just kinda a bonus of V3. Daz is working on a Mike 3 probably be out this summer (see old threads info is there). Mike 3 will be anatomically correct just as Mike 2 is. If you own Mike 2 u can um, perform Poser surgery and add to Vicki3, there are also some "addons" over at Renderotica that can be attached, bunch as freebies too.

Hey I used the tutorial by Storm which was suggested by almck1@hotmail.com/Alex works quite good but well at least pj-bear is right it really looks very ... ugly ... a man without his best friend "Willy". But have the hope for Mike3 getting on stage this summer. Many thanks for all your kind advices! ;-) Bernie

Digiport's Digigenitals ($20) at BBay will work with any figure. It's a figure of it's own. Pose the base to the hip of the character, parent it to the hip, and you're ready. The same holds true for the free Penis "prop" (really a full figure) available to members of GayPoserArt at Yahoo. The differences between the two are: 1) Digigenitals has 7 bones for the penis shaft and head, the Ulf figure has 4. 2) Digigenitals has 3 bones for the testicles, the Ulf figure has 1. Digigenitals has 3 morphs used for fitting the hip to the character. The Ulf figure has none. 3) Digigenitals has 2 base sections, center and hip; the ulf figure has 1. 4) Digigenitals has a sharper glans on default, and no uncircumsized morphs, the Ulf prop has two uncircumsized morphs and has more variations in look. Both can be resized at any part, so endowment for the figure is under the user's control. Both are fairly easy to work with. The biggest problem with both is getting the texture maps to match the body map of the character you're fitting the figure to. The Digigenitals is easier to pose and to fit to a figure, but Ulf's figure has more realistic and variable options. Both have a limited number of testures available. Both work a LOT better than using Mike's equipment. Here's both of them, with both uncircumsized morphs on Ulf's penis figure.

uh... never thought I'd do a post like that... Side note: both have been posed to make them look flacid. The default pose on both of them would violate the TOS here, so some modification was nessasary. There are some other props/figures floating around too. These are the two best (in my opinion).

Making the genitals from digiport fit is very easy, as there are no pieces that have to match 100%. As for textures, the texture that comes with it is reasonable. I have used this item with a number of body textures, a little tweaking of the base color usually produces the needed results. Plus that part of the body never has a 100% color match to the rest of the body. A nother trick is to make the piece where it attatches a little transparent to get better blending.

I don't want to know why you need such a heavily boned genital set ....

Lyrra, There are definite variations in the way a man can look in that region, both excited and flacid. There's hundreds of combinations for a woman's breasts in the high res figures (V3 may even be thousands), and they all get used in NVIAT pics. The same holds true for a man's genitalia. Three naked men in a sauna would all look very different. Although they might look a lot more alike sitting in the snow. I do admit that a lot of those variations would violate the TOS here, but for other sites and purposes, the number of bones can be useful (especially for the humor factor). The old Milton Berle jokes come to mind... (grin)

Even without the erect morphs, I can see why one would need the "boning" -- that's an unfortunate statement. Anyway, the side to side movement is important if you really want to do male nudes-- vital, in fact, because posing genitals naturally means they are not the central focus of the work-- as all awkwardly posed figures are. Emily

Wow, this is very informative. I had no idea there were so many choices and things to consider when contemplating a penis purchase. Maybe I will have to start going to the gym again to help me decide just what I would want to do in the long run artistically, other than just correct a disfigured mammal in the short run. Pretty interesting set of options, and I guess I needed to start going to the gym anyway.

I'm well aware of the variety of male genitalia, but it just surprises me that so many segments are needed. I just think that I don't get so ah ... up close and personal... in most of my male nude images (none of which I can post here BTW... check my website if you're curious)

Boy is this confusing. We want to make Vicky 3 (woman) look like a man, but she doesn't have a "willie." I'm not surprised at that. Now I hear that testicles have bones. I do my own investigation, and find no bones. Somehow those pictures of penises seem very unsettling. Maybe it's because they have no body attached. Oh boy, was that a boner or what?! Excuse me, but... Um... bye.

Hey pdxjims (or anyone to whom this applies), do you have both versions of the Digiport genitals? If so, what's the difference between the two?

Jet, I've only got version 2. I couldn't see any real difference other than one special texture, and the second one was more flexable and had more posing abilities. There's only so many of these you really need. Right now I've got the two mentioned above, a couple of more (not very good ones), and even 3 or 4 for robots. I've also got one or two specialized static ones for a very realistic effect. Those aren't posable though, just very detailed. The robot ones are sorta neat, but there isn't that many good renders you can do with them. At least and not violate the TOS.

Ok this intrests me. From where did you download genitals for robots?

If the genitalia is such a strongly essential part of the self-identity of you menfolk, why is that part of the male anatomy given a personal name as though it has a completely separate identity? Willy, Jimmy, Johnny... so many that it must be a common thing... but why? Is this done in other cultures or is it only a "western" tradition? Oh, and would androids name theirs, too? Carolly

Attached Link: http://www.bernieloehn.de/downloads/Grale-pp2-P5.zip

Many thanks to all of you for the kind advices. Never thought that so many people think about "Willys". To show you that I am not always thinking about these guys, please find attached a little freebie. BTW: Carolly, in Germany we had a comic in the 80ties with the whole story about a man and his toon thingy. "His" name was Willy. ;-) Bernie

lol! I guess you would only need so many :) Unless you're greedy... but I won't go there. I wonder why there are the two at BBay. I've been considering getting one for awhile now and been confused. But it seems to me that #2 will, ah, "fulfill my needs". Thanks

Is it true that the boy included with Poser 5 is called Will?

Sometimes couples like the ability to talk about "personal things" without others knowing the real subject. For instance, one might say "Don't forget to say hello to Willie," rather than "touch my penis." Um, well you get the idea.

Do androids dream of electric penises?

Roger, That ability to make allusive and non-embarrassing remarks in public is a good point, but women also need that ability. I don't know of any females who have named parts of their body as though they are separate, for any reason, though. Hmm... I may have to lay this question before the ladies in my Artist's Tea Circle. Bernie, That's a lovely chalice. Thank you! Carolly

When I remeber right there was a French movie in the late seventies. Main actor was a woman who gave names to her left and right chest - sorry cannot remember the names and also the name of the movie. But possibly the dialogs - in Germany always translated - were even though made by a male???? ;-)) Bernie

I think men perhaps take a more proprietary interest in Mr. Johnson. Frankly though, I've never known anyone who went so far as to have a special name for their manhood. Willy, Johnson etc. are simply euphemisms. Of course, some would say "it" has a head and a mind of its own ans is perhaps deserving of such status. There're certainly an equal number of colloquial names for the vagina. Not being privy to the private conversations of women, I don't know waht terms they use. I think in the more reserved era of the fifties, something like "um, you know, down there" was prevelant. Today, who knows? I'd probably blush listening in on the girl's locker room.

lmckenzie, Well, having names for a part of the body, even if they are rude, is different from having personal names. I can not imagine for example a woman calling her breasts "Billie" and "Bobbie" or use "Virginia" for a vagina (appropriate or not), but I know at least 2 men who have pet names for their personal body parts. What I'm most interested in is WHY men do this? The 2 explanantions suggested don't seem adaquate to uncover the subject. Carolly

"...I know at least 2 men who have pet names for their personal body parts." Yes, and I once met a guy who the television were sending secret messages to him! Seriously though, I've never run across this and I'm not sure I'd want to. Al Bundy's wife Peg did refer to her breasts as "the girls," and I'm sure somewhere out there is a man who refers to his testicles as Frick and Frack but... I simply doubt it's common enough to rank as a cultural phenomenon. BTW, what names did these guys use and how did it come up in conversation? I have known men to name their guns (firearms). We name ships after women, thouggh I've read Russians tend to name them after men. In the end, penises have to perform on command and lie quietly when announcing their presence would be an embarrasment to the owner. Perhaps that equates to a personality. Or, as Elaine once said on Seinfeld, "I dont see how you guys walk around with those things." Now, if you'll excuse me, Seth, my liver, is telling me it's time for some sugar.

lmckenzie, Well, one evening many years ago a gentleman visitor had to use my bathroom. He trotted in there and closed the door... but not before my kitten got inside. She sat on the edge of the tub and watched the whole affair. Thinking about sharp kitten claws and dangly playthings undoubtedly rattled him into talking a bit more about that member than he would have otherwise, since we weren't intimate or anything. Maybe the reason my cat and I get along so well is that we are both inordinately curious? Carolly

Bad case of nerves eh? Should've told him a little pussy never hurt anyone.

I can't believe that you posted that... or that I didn't think of saying it at the time. He would have died and gone through the floor. :wide and not very nice grin: Carolly

":wide and not very nice grin:" Cheshire cat? Hang on to the line, the chance to use it may come again. Glad to be of service.