First 3 are Sarsa's I believe and the last one is elizabyte's.

again

oops.... s/b #4 is elizabyte's

8/9 is Sarsa's

These are all stolen from FaerieWylde. They're all recent, too. Bloody outrageous (pardon my Esperanto).

After seeing Turtles post yesterday i took a look at some of the tubers yahoo sites. this is what is posted reguarding copyright issues : 3. Feel free to share whatever tubes ect that you collect from other groups, Just because a person tubes an image, that DOES NOT give them any sort of copyright over that image ... ONLY the ORIGINAL ARTIST holds that copyright, and can say legally what can and can not be done with that image, so SHARE away folks! In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is being distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational or criticism purposes only. Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml We are not doing this for profit of any kind, it is only for fun, we are not breaking any copyrights.

This is soo sad. I know most of these beautiful images. If I find anyone stealing any of my work Not that mine is good enough for this lol I would be so pissed off and hurt. I lot of time is put into our work and to have someone take our worka nd make them into yubes for all to use is downright WRONG!!! Here is a list of most of these works and who made them. #1 is Sarsa Seen Here http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=354804 #2 seen here http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=353140 #4Seen Here http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=352340 are elizabyte's #4 she had at Poser Pros for awahile even won a contest there with it I do belive #3 is dolfijntjes seen here http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=352994 #5 is By Puntomaus Seen here http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=351573 #6 IS rjghise Seen Here http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=351452 #7 is Sarsa Seen Here http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=351178 I feel they have evry right to be know as the creators of this work and to not be ripped off also to know they have been ripped off.

BTW Look at what Puntomaus put in her image credits *Image number 5: "Image not available for tubes, websets and other stuff. " PS forgive all myy typos it has been a long day and this shit makes me soo mad. :(

The owner moderator for Cute-Tubes-4-U/ is a person with the name Woodmouse29 and one of her websites is here http://groups.msn.com/TheBearsDenCoven with this email address woodmouse22@shaw.ca The tuber Tina Gillilan email address is tina_gillilan@yahoo.com That was all i could find out about her for the moment.

So, Please tell me, what can I do? I really don't know how I can help to stop this kind of thing from going on? Genny

Yes two are mine Sadie and Areophany number 1 and 8 are Sarsa's and number 13 and 5 is from puntomaus. I think their is not much we can do. I don't want to put my work in a dark corner than it's no fun anymore if I can't share. But I hate it that people abuse my hobby ^^%&^%&%$^W#

OK, So I'm dumb, but what exactly is a tube? later jb

There's nothing you can do...if you spend hours getting one email group shut down, they'll just open up another in another name and there are hundreds out there...that;s why I said the only hope is post your images with your name across them to deter them from even wanting them in the first place...

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=1201198

They go for the ones that are easlily cut. Espeially the white background ones. I don't what the answere is. I know they steal more than Fairy stuff-Pictures, but this is what my informer likes. But you better believe they are stealing from all of us. I'll have my husband check into the copywrite law. I wouldn't trust what thoes groups print out to try and justify there Taking out work and adding to and messing it up/ Jerks don't even give us credit. My husband is now retired,but he's a former asst Attory General for the State of Michigan.

Image #4 is from Elizabyte and has been featured image of the week at PoserPros too. #5 and #13 are mine and like Blazerwiccan already said: under the Koshini image was a clear statement that my image is not available for tubes, websets and stationary. What poor morons that have to steal other peoples artwork because they have no imagination and talent to make their own.

*In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is being distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational or criticism purposes only. Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml * Haha, very funny. So they are tubing our images only for research and teaching - do they all sit in a classroom and after they've done write an article about it and post it in a newspaper?

Yahoo! respects the intellectual property of others, and we ask our users to do the same. Yahoo! may, in appropriate circumstances and at its discretion, disable and/or terminate the accounts of users who may be infringing the intellectual property rights of others. If you believe that your work has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, or your intellectual property rights have been otherwise violated, please provide Yahoo!'s Copyright Agent the following information: an electronic or physical signature of the person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright or other intellectual property interest; a description of the copyrighted work or other intellectual property that you claim has been infringed; a description of where the material that you claim is infringing is located on the site; your address, telephone number, and email address; a statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright or intellectual property owner, its agent, or the law; a statement by you, made under penalty of perjury, that the above information in your Notice is accurate and that you are the copyright or intellectual property owner or authorized to act on the copyright or intellectual property owner's behalf. If you are seeking permission to use Yahoo! trademarks, logos, service marks, trade dress, slogans, screen shots, copyrighted designs, or other brand features, please contact the permission requests department, not the copyright agent. Yahoo!'s Agent for Notice of claims of copyright or other intellectual property infringement can be reached as follows: By mail: Anthony P. Coll c/o Yahoo! Inc. 701 First Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94089 By phone: (408) 349-5080 By fax: (408) 349-7821 By email: copyright@yahoo-inc.com

mine diddn't have a white background both of them so that's not the answer to prevent this

None of these images are mine - and I doubt if mine would ever be tubed, but... Here's the deal, folks... My images are mine, and mine alone. I created them, and I get to say where and how they can be used, by what methods and in which ways. If you copy any of my images without my express written permission, you are stealing from me, and breaking any and all applicable copyright laws. Just thought I'd make that nice and clear. :)

GUH again!?! the only way I know to make it hard on someone steeling an image is to put your sig right across the bloody thing. like Linda Brkvst does {I know I spelt that wrong but sorry} and most servers will take down the work that is used. Also I hate to tell those out there that like to hide behind that fair usage thing only if you give proper credit and contact information to the creator of a piece can you hide behind that one legaly. it doesnt look like that was done.{specially if one of them said it was not to be used for tubes etc etc that is clearly stateing that it was not allowed there for negateing any fair usage} I know this past summer I spent alot of money on copyright infringment due to MSN not takeing care of crap.{retainer alone for a lawyer was 5ooo dallors that was just a retainer} They refused to take down work that I proved was mine and that I had not given permission to use. and it was NOT used to make money it was simply used with out permission.

oh P.S, they DID end up taking it down ;)

Anyone know much about watermarking pictures? I had a thing that did it at one time but it wasnt a good one and degraded the image quality quite badly, just wondering if theres something that does this a keeps the image at a decent quality. At least then we can identify the image as origanly ours?

digimark does it. it comes with ps and psp most times

I don't care if they are making a profit or not, I don't believe they can distribute your work in any form without your prior permission and I don't think some stupid "disclaimer" will protect them should someone decide to go after them about it. Plus I don't believe the USC code they site covers them in the least as they are distributing them in the same way people distribute freebies here. The code has to be read in it's entirety....they pluked out what they thought would protect them, IMO. I'll be interested in hearing your husband's thoughts Turtle. There must be someone here who is versed in copyright law. Maybe a post that asks for copyright expertise will help?

digimark can be cloned out. what you need to do is this...it won't completely fix it but will make it harder to copy and tube your image..do the edges of your figure in photoshop....go over them, amd spraypaint....when you merge it will be harder to tube. make intricate backgrounds...many tubers go for the black or white backgrounds...they are soooo easy. nag renderosity to crack down on lists. not only do they steal images, they swap programs, (driving YOUR prices up), and, vote one another into our hot 20.

That is ridiculous - I am so sick to death of people touting "fair use" as if they know what they are talking about! Fari use means you can use it to review or for educational purposes it does not meann that you can distribute it if you don't make a profit!! Tubes, email stationary, linkware and the like are not public/fair use at all. But as has been stated you can close down one group only to find dozens more like them.

The only problem is that now they will have to go out and buy Poser and then we'll have to put up with 'em here...."trolling" around!! :) Seriously sarsa, I don't blame you one whit. It is a shame that work can't be shared without having to worry that some good for nothing will steal it. I don't guess I'll ever create anything anyone would want to take, but I know I'd be angry if they did!

I just Watermark the picture I just posted. and I did it with psp and I first did it on my art computer. When I got it to this computer I said what the heck I'll do two. The psp on this computer said this image is already watermarked. Cool, I've had that program since I started and never thought I would use that feature. So at lest I know it works. I think we should all write our congressmen about this.

I really recomend you delete the personal info in your post. Whatever your reasons for posting it, it's just not cool.

The part that would really set me off - the signature implies that the original art work is by that person. She obviously thinks the tube production is more creative than what it took to do the original art since her name is larger than the credit for the original artist - infinitely larger. This is just flat out plagerism.

Yes, Kendra. Perhaps it is best I demonstrate a level of consideration somewhat above that of the thief in question. The point is, nobody should be stupid enough to redistribute another's work as their own because they think they cannot be found.

I know. I just didn't want to see you get in any trouble for it is all. I understand the frustration.

I think the idea about writing out congress men is a great idea. perhaps a petition if you will. that will show that the laws need to be changed. kinda makes you wish right click didnt exist doesnt it?

There actually is a way to disable right-click on websites, though I've only seen it successfully used once or twice. Of course, until everyone uses the exact same browser on the exact same platform you can't guarantee that the code will work properly for everyone...

It is something though, and I was able to find a link to the source code.

Take a look.

It is extremely frustrating to see this happen as often as it does in art communities across the web... I remember back in 1999 many artists and web designers closed their sites for 24 hours in honor of "Gray Day", in order to show people what the web would be like without the contributions of artists. I really hope it never has to come to that, but I agree that something needs to be done to protect people's creations.

-Molly

Attached Link: http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/iclp/hr2265.html

Tack on the fact that it is a "ring," with the expressed purpose of breaking the law, and it is racketeering. Not "I killed Guido for the Don," racketeering, but it is organized crime.

on the web sites I have built for myself and others I know the varied no right click scripts and I also know there are ways around everyone of them. it is so frustrating that it is not even funny. the fact that particularly with explorer all you have to do is mouse over most pics and you then get the icons to either save it or send it via email doesnt help either it is like they are contributing and encouraging the theft of images.

Ahhh....I knew that copyright reference had to be wrong or at the very least not quoted in its entirety! Thanks for posting the latest Migal.

Even if the artists aren't charging an admission fee to have their work seen, if they choose to display their work on specific web sites, and those web sites benefit as a result of the display, either by selling related products or by selling banner advertising based on traffic generated by the art, profit is being stolen.

Making a case isn't hard. Getting a prosecutor to pay attention in times like these is another matter. Which is why ridding the offenders of their illusion of anonymity is the quickest, least expensive way to increase their cooperation. But, as Kendra pointed out, it is rather "hardball" and probably best left as a last resort.

Then again, when they respond to requests to cease and desist with, "you can't stop us. There is nothing you can do about it," I can't help but think of them as children who need a spanking.