As someone mentioned earlier, no right click doesn't really work unless they don't know their computer well. Everything is sent to your cache anyhow and browsing your cache will get you the pictures you want. The only way to stop it is to shut them down and try to keep educating people... along with what Sarsa has sadly had to do. :(

There are Meta tags that go into the head of a webpage that disable the display of the IE6 toolbox that let you save or send and image with email. And there are Meta tags that prevent caching the webpages.

[META HTTP-EQUIV="cache-control" CONTENT="no-cache"]
[meta name="MSSmartTagsPreventParsing" content="true"]
[META HTTP-EQUIV="imagetoolbar" CONTENT="no"]
[link rel=alternate media=print href="printversion.html"]

You would have to change this [ ] to this <>. The last tag is for printing out an alternate document with your copyright information when someone hits the printbutton of their browser - only IE I think but at DynamicDrive they have often lots of cross-browser scripts although the above Meta Tags are made with Dreamweaver Extensions.

#6 is mine, but she didn't have those yucky yellow wings in my original picture!

Two of those are mine. In order to do that, this woman HAD to deliberately edit out an extremely obvious watermark/signature that identifies the work as mine. I've contacted Yahoo (not that I think that'll do any good, but I thought I'd at least make them aware of the issue) and publicized this woman's actions in a number of appropriate places. Right now I'm working on an image for her, and I'll post to this thread with the link when I'm done. At least one of those images was posted ONLY to Poser Pros and nowhere else, not even my own domain (it was a contest entry). So I'd say that's where she got at least one. The other one that she stole was a contest winner at Poser Pros (Front Page Image of the Week), so it's pretty identifiable and it's bloody easy to prove that it's mine. I can see that in the future I'll have to put the signature/watermark on my image in a way that mars the image enough that it's not as attractive to idiots like this. And you know, if you lack the talent and ability to make your own images and just have to resort to stealing other peoples' work, perhaps you should find a hobby that ISN'T graphics related. Duh. bonni

Attached Link: http://www.reasoft.com

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=383138

Attached Link: http://www.bildschutz.de

You can select between text or grafic watermark, select the transparency level, what file format (gif, jpg, png, bmp) to save the image, file compression level, save folder etc.

Shame on me, I've got this program for several month sleeping on my hard drive - but now it's definitely the time to finally make use of it!

LOL@Bonni - I love your image - it sais just what I feel.

if we could convince r'osity and the other gallery sites to allow us to upload in a format that supports layers, like psd.....we could load a transparent top layer to our graphics and that would be all that the tubers would come away with.

For the person who asked about what's a tube... PSP has a tool called the "Picture Tube". PSP users can open any image in PSP, select the part they want, place it on a transparent background (NOT A GIF) and then export it so it becomes a tube (a PSP native image format with the extension tub). Then the user can select the tube tool and start creating images with the various clipped images they have in their tubes collection. Think of them like stickers. Used with layers, the user can create almost 3d like images. I hope this answers your question.

Oh, Bonni. My goodness. That was truly enjoyable!

Disabling 'right-click' isn't going to help, except with the very non-technical sort of image thieves. There are five easy ways to copy an image from a web-page with right-click disabled, and only three of them can be code-protected against. (God, that last sentence was a grammatical nightmare!)

I'm not going to list the ways, in hopes that these jerks ARE completely computer-clueless

I mailed this person also and told her she stole my work and that she diddn't have the permission and that she should remove my images with her name on it. This is her answer: Already done! I have already been contacted about this and gave my word... No more tubing anything of the internet l.o.l. it isn't worth the trouble no matter how much I enjoy it... I have even left all the yahoo groups! I am not a hard person to get along with so please just keep your eyes open and you will see... Oh and by the way, it would appear that you got the preview of the tube, on the tube there is 2 layers and the layer that has (tube by Tina) means that I only tubed it, it isn't claiming the art work. But like I said I have spoken to Turtle about this and she did post my letter about it on the site stating that I gave my word not to touch anymore art work!!! And the thing is, I meant it.... And if someone out there in the tube lists want to continue to copy and paste my name on tubes they have done and then say I did it, well someone needs to go into those groups and see for themselves that I am not even in the groups anymore...

Well, because I know people make mistakes and because I like to give the benefit of the doubt to people when I can, I did remove her name from my weblog and from the image here at R'osity that mentioned her (but I kept the image because I like it :) ). I mean, I'm still angry about it, but I'm willing to believe that she was just misled by the morons who claim that redistribution is perfectly okay so long as "it's just for fun" (grrrrr). I have gone back and redone some watermark/signatures on some of my images, though, to try to discourage this sort of thing from happening in the future. But hey, at least I got a fun and amusing image out of it. ;) bonni

LOL Love it bonni!!

"And if someone out there in the tube lists want to continue to copy and paste my name on tubes they have done and then say I did it, well someone needs to go into those groups and see for themselves that I am not even in the groups anymore..." That right there set off warning bells for me. I must admit though, I am not a very forgiving or trusting person, it's a character flaw. :(

I'm not very forgiving, either. I just decided to remove her name because it seemed appropriate. I just read in another forum that this woman has been doing this for years and she says she's stopped or that she will stop and then turns right around and does it again. We shall see. This is annoying. I don't actually want to stop posting images to Renderosity, but I will do so if it continues to be a problem. Grrr. bonni

The thing is that some of the artists here do make money off their art in a variety of ways. Through webgaphics, prints etc. So if they are distributing the images as tubes they are most definitely open to a lawsuit for loss of income. If I make an image specifically for a web design that I sell(and I have done so) and they distribute the image as a tube I lose income because someone can make their own set or linkware more easily with the tube. Equally if I claim (and I do) that the art on the sets are original and someone sees linkware sets with the same artwork it destroys the "original" "limited editions" that I offer. Doesn't matter if they are only re-distributing something they found (The most common excuse) they didn't make it so they are liable.

..."if we could convince r'osity and the other gallery sites to allow us to upload in a format that supports layers, like psd.....we could load a transparent top layer to our graphics and that would be all that the tubers would come away with." Technical problem with that... most brosers won't know what to do wth a .psd file (unless you can have some sort of plugin available.) Also, GIMP puts layered images in .xcf or uncompressed .psd format - compressed .psd may not show up at all in Mac or Linux browsers. (err, the following applies in the US only, but check with local laws anyway.) Personally, if you find someone ripping off your artwork, find out where they live, and if it is close enough, you can file a court claim for copyright infringement. It's actually not all that expensive, and if you claim up to $1000.00 US, it's small claims. If the offending party doesn't show up, you win by default and their wages are garnished automatically. If they do show up, make sure there's a laptop with an internet connection handy, and be prepared to show the judge all of your intermediate stages, as well as a dated final stage that predates the "tube." It will cost you a day off of work plus a $35 filing fee (or so), but you will reap $1000.00 or so by judgement (and can even have the offender's wages garnished to insure you get it.), PLUS the filing fee. If they live out of state, you can file a complaint with the offender's Att'ys General office - some states will prosecute offenders for you. Me, I prefer to have their ISP cut 'em off at the knees... Of all the things I hate about the DMCA, ISPs do pay immediate attention to DMCA violation notices, and will act on them in a heartbeat - this is how you find your violator and discover where they live... and if they use something like Yahoo!, then Yahoo! can be talked (upon your showing them evidence of violation) into providing the home ISP info of the offender.You then go to the home ISP and let them know what's up, demanding a remedy to the situation. To avoid losing safe harbor protection, the ISP usually cuts the offender's account off. The expense and frustration DSL and Cable users will find in re-establishing an Internet connection (if you're lucky, they're stuck with going back to AOL on dial-up) is more than enough punishment (evil grin.) /P

tasquah, Send that to disney, they go after tubers. They close down sites. Just like the Elvis stuff is so tightly copyrighted and they just go for anyone stealing.

Great work from this Tina women that's from Harry Potter right? Saw that movie two days ago. Stupid me I just want to believe it when people talk to me but I had to know better.....

Sort of a tongue in cheek question here. ;) If Poser users are accused of not being "real artists" then what does that say about people who make tubes from Poser work? teehee! =) Image theft is rampant on the web. Right click scripts don't work and annoy people. For instance, I have a bunch of handy utilities in my right click menu that do things like disable colors, use different style sheets, increase font size, etc.. Disabling right click means I can't use any of those things and doesn't work anyway.. you can dig images out of your cache, take screenshots, etc. There are 2 major things I am concerned about, personally, as someone who posts things on the web. 1) That people will use my work in a web design that they got paid to create. 2) That someone will profit off my work by using it in a subscription type wallpaper site, selling it on zazzle, whatever. I am generally safe because I use a lot of nudity and portray "ugly" subjects quite often. I have limited resources, but if I find someone using my work, I will at LEAST write to the ISP to get their site shut down. I suggest anyone who gets ripped off do the same.

The Walt Disney Company and its affiliates are in the process of an e-Mail system upgrade so i will call and find out tomorrow who i need to contact about this.

Opps well i sent them a tinkerbell sample she uploaded as well. but i will send this one to warner brothers . Doesnt hurt to have to many big corarations on your side.

This Tina is not the "sharpest tack in the box" is she. Someone should probably notify JASC about this as well. She's using their software to perform her illegal work. JASC makes Paint Shop Pro. If she has it, they know who she is. I don't think they would approve....they're a good firm. I would also post something about this in the PSP forum here at Rendo. Get the word around about her and the issue itself. She sounds like a 12 year old....or someone with the brain of a 12 year old!

If no one objects, I would like to post a link to this message in two PSP communities forums. I won't do this until someone says it is ok. I know them and they do not tolerate this sort of thing because they would lose the backing of Jasc if they condoned such actions

I would certainly encourage you to do it BellMorte, but Turtle is the one who started the thread. Makes sense to me though....as does sending an email to JASC with the name of the offender. They may take action against her themselves since she's using their product to do this.

actually about the copyright infringment in court you can only sue for loss of income if you have your copy right actually registerd {this is not expensive to do most times about 30 dollars for me when I did it} {also for those that may not be able to afford a lawyer most states have a legal aid which works on a sliding scale and they can help you wish any questions on the matter as well} What is a pain in the arse, is that most of the time the paperwork and the legal prossess you have to go through IS expensive as you also have to go through the server that they used. {I had to do this with microsoft I had to get a court order to get records showing this person KNEW full well they were stealing and was doing it with purpose and had done so repeatedly}THAT cost a HUGE amount and I dont know about the rest of you but as a Working mother that does make income from my work {off and online} it took a healthy chunk from my income to do it all. What I find totally disgusting is that these tubers {Not all tubers mind you} that will cry bloody murder about "do not redistribute my tubes with out permisson" I mean they didnt even MAKE the art they just cut it from someone elses work. They dont want someone stealing from them but they think it is ok to steal from others.

Obsessive compulsive Tina writes:

"And if someone out there in the tube lists want to continue to copy and paste my name on tubes they have done and then say I did it,"

Yes, Tina. We understand. Everybody wants to be you, even if only through imitation. We can hardly wait for your memoirs.

Funny they must be logging into yahoo as her as well as posting in tube groups as her. Yes one day I aspire to be the great tuber legend . I tubed it all big and small. hehe now thats sad.

I went in and joined those 2 groups to get more information (links, images, etc) for the formal letter I faxed today to Yahoo with the copyright infringment complaint.....now I have to DE-join however the heck you do that..geez...BUT...when you join those stupid groups..they send you eMails with the tubes..and some of them say..."SNAGGED!, and passing it along!"...they can cry 'oh poor me, I didnt know, I'll stop!" all they want...but I aint buyin it. Their eMails brag about 'snagging'....stealing. Nice. Thanks to .maus and Darkginger for the links for the watermark options...going to look into that now...

go to the home page of the group in the upper right corner it says ( Edit My Membership ] [ Leave Group ] ) chose the later. I chose the do not mail me NADA option or when i had to i have a few mailbox's already set up that delete everything sent to them as spam.

I sent Yahoo an email with a note that I'd fax them anything they wanted once I'd heard back from them. I don't like to fax stuff unannounced (mostly because for me it's an international call). What I'd really like is to get confirmation from Yahoo of Tina's IP address and then go to her ISP directly. I've done this in the past (mostly with websites, of course). It won't ultimately stop her (she can get a different account), but it will inconvienience her. By the way, I heard from someone else who joined those groups to look around that one of the rules is that you should never put the "real" artist's name in the work, so basically they KNOW they're stealing and doing wrong and violating copyright. They're a little nest of sleazy thieves and THEY KNOW IT. They seem to take pride in stealing. I guess everyone's got to be proud of something they can do. If all you can do is steal, then, well... smirk bonni

Based on information from the headers on her Usenet posts (she seems to post daily and has done for years), her ISP is 1st.net. If you want to complain to her originating ISP, send an email complaint (cite the Digital Millenium Copyright Act) to abuse@1st.net with a Cc to root@1st.net for good measure. Her username there is "enoch". This information, by the way, was super easy to find. The server info is right in the headers of every post she makes. It's pretty much public information. I could probably find out lots more about her if I worked at it a little bit, but I won't bother. Pretty much everything you need to know is right there if you want to go to the source. bonni

Ok. I have notified four PSP communities forums and have received a "Thanks for the heads up" from two of them. They know to be on the look out now.

If we can identify who this person is on PoserPros who has stolen Bonni's faerie art, I will siteban them for it. Looking into it in the morning.

Attached Link: http://www.copyright.gov/onlinesp/list/index.html

Actually, Mehndi, I realized that the image was a different one than I thought. It could have been from here, and it probably was because of the time frame for posting. I posted a similar image (thus confusing even myself :) ) to Poser Pros sometime later. It's convoluted, I know. :D Thank you for caring, Mehndi. :) Although I can give you at least two of this woman's email addresses if you want to check the database there. ;) bonni

Bonni, if you have her email addys maybe give them to Thorne too that he can check if she's over in our Forum as well.

Just got back an email from 1st.net. They say they haven't got any customer with the username 'enoch' and that they have no Tina Gillian as a customer. They said they can't divulge if they had one in the past, but that they don't now. I take this to mean that they DID, but can't say outright. Hmmm. Might have to get after Yahoo even more. bonni

tasquah, are you still a member in those groups? Can you get a copy of one of her emails with all the headers? I'm not sure, but that should have her ISP information in it. bonni

woodmouse deleted them and posted this : "It seems here we go again with this BS copyright law stuff, and people who think they know it all, and have appointed themselves advocate of any and all artists...LOL Her post's go through her yahoo acount . Some one else here got direct email from her , they may have it .

I haven't appointed myself advocate of any and all artists. I've appointed myself advocate of MYSELF! Grrrrrrrrrrr. These people SO completely tick me off. They know they're in the wrong, they know they're ripping us off, but we're pulling BS on them?!?! bonni

I've joinded this group.She claimed not to know Tina. Here is another quote from this great group leader over there: Second of all...... I have not seen any of the poser? art from any member of my group or from anyone named Tina. I do not know this person, and I really can honestly say that I have not seen any "poser art", but then, I tend to stay away from crap and garbage as a rule. [...] Our group is Blackmarked around the net? Phuleeze....ROFL.. GOOD! PERFECT! maybe we will get some more really good members!! Yo, interesting,huh?

Well, she's obviously aware that she's being watched, and she's being as insulting as she possibly can to the people who are watching her. As for staying away from crap and garbage, well, maybe she shouldn't run a group that brags about how many images they can steal. Talk about crap. I feel like I accidentally stumbled into a nest of snakes. What a bunch of losers. bonni

Yep, I did not find any faerie tubes - I did a search but it looks like she has deleted the archive or whatever. This is all making me so sick that I just signed off there and deleted my yahoo account that I just had created. I like to stay away from crap too and this is only giving me headaches. Btw, she wasn't talking about you in that post above (advocate) but to the one that sent her the email about the stolen artwork.

I did send her a mail about stolen MY artwork but regreds no not one it is MY work and not her

Oh, I know she wasn't talking about me, specifically. It just pisses me off that anyone who tries to complain about copyright violations and artists' rights, etc. is some sort of bizarre "advocate". It just goes to her state of mind is all. The woman who runs that group is clearly a complete sleaze. bonni

Well...now that the link/graphics have been deleted...Yahoo is going to think I am off my rocker when they read the fax I sent them with all the information....ughhh