Oh, I use 1024 size and forgot to click the nudity button.

2 things: 1. just move the window to where you want it.. I did it by opening up preferences adn clicking on launch to factory state. 2. Having installed SR3, I had a hardware crash and had to reinstall all my poser stuff. I stopped after SR2.1 cos I had some art work to do. I couldn't access any of my WIP until I had reinstalled SR3, even the artwork I'd done pre SR3 install, so beware.

1. moving the window times X files is a time waster and what you are seeing is factory state. 2. Another reason to have an uninstall.

it wasn't in my case... changing to factory state restored window to its original position. logically, if this does not work 4 u then move the window to where you want it and set this as preferred state.

If you set your screen display to 1600 then the dots will be visible again (I think!). You can then drag them nearer to centre screen... and reset your display to 1024. The dots should then still be visible. A save of a UI dot and re-setting start up preferences should then sort things out (I hope!)

As an afterthought, if the above helps... then I'm wondering how others who don't have the ability to use screen resolutions of 1600 x 1200 can ever access the dots?

Glad to see I'm not the only one who had problems with SR3. And when I mentioned it before I was told I was bashing CL. So I guess you are bashers too...lol Since SR3 crashed my system to it's toes, I would like to go back to a previous release but I haven't seen them on the CL site. Haven't bothered to re-install it yet, using P4 with the Pro Pack. Marque

This is just why I took the damn 5 off the first week it was released and I refuse to put it back on. I sure would like my money back. Full upgrade price. I know right now they are never going to get this fixed. It would have been so much better if they would have made 5 a big improvement on 4. Instead they tried tied to be fancy and bring in all these other functions. When there was one big one they could have fixed with 4 and thats cross talk. Poser5 isn't even Poser. It's a piece of crap. I wish I had never bought it.

I pre-ordered p5 and received it several weeks later (via the UK to scotland, then shipped to italy). Why did I buy it? Well, for one, I figured that even if I didn't desparately need it, if nothing else, it was never going to get any cheaper. More fool me! By that time, I was already reading the horror stories, so I just didn't install it. I have no immediate use for it and doubt if my 800Mhz crapheap could handle it. So, I figured I'd wait it out for a few SRs and see what happens. And what's happening? It seems that a lot of people are uninstalling p5 and writing it off as a bad deal. I'm sure many others don't have problems, but I have no desire to wreck my computer trying to find out which group I'll be in. Sure, I can't make a judgment, since I didn't even install it, but to be honest, it looks to me like as Las Vegas gamble, and that's not my idea of how software should work. I know I'll never get my money back, and frankly, I don't give a hoot. My mistake, I pay. Not that I'm rolling in money, but adding stressing out over it to the financial loss is not my idea of fun. One of these years, I'll get a new computer, CL will be up to SR 20-something, and I'll brave it out. Until then, I try not to think about it. mac

Poser 5 is a bad deal. Even if it worked for everyone, it still isn't what was promised--a new program written from scratch. And they'll never get it right as long as they keep trying to patch a broken down structure. They need to tear down the old and build new. I see it like an old 5-storey building: the original (P4) structure was flawed but it was decent enough to hold up the 5 stories, even though a bit shakey. P5 added 5 more stories and now the danged thing is swaying like crazy and often crashing. They need to tear it all down and rebuild, starting with a good, solid foundation that can hold the program up.

I must be one of the few who's relatively happy with P5. Sure Firefly screws up some pics but since upgrading my PC and installing SR3, I've had few probs, bout the same number of crashes as with PShop 7. many of the peeps complaining bout P5 are trying to run it on a PC that's not powerful enough. In spite of what CLabs claim, I wouldn't think of running P5 with SR3 on anything less that an Athlon 2000+ or similar and 512 meg of ram with a 128 meg graphics card

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'many of the peeps complaining bout P5 are trying to run it on a PC that's not powerful enough' That's a valid point, DD, and it's one of the reasons I don't want to install. I'd only be asking for trouble, I reckon. At the time I bought P5, I was planning on upgrading puter with some expected cash. Well, the cash fell through, so I'm sorta stuck now... oh well... mac

try rendering a heavily textured scene that has verical columns in it, in Firefly... freaks engineers out

many of the peeps complaining bout P5 are trying to run it on a PC that's not powerful enough I'm one of the EVM who has a machine with more than 3 times the recommended system requirements and it's still very flakey with an incredibly slow response time for manipulating dials (even just double clicking to type in values), fuzzy firefly renders (it got worse recently, I don't know why), and problems with the material room for even simple tasks like changing out materials due to the way the node system a works. If it works for you, great. I have no reason to doubt you. But my problems are neither due to incompetance nor trying to run P5 on a Timex Sinclair. grumble

I'm just glad I didn't install SR3! I have a P-IV 1.7ghz, XP Pro, 512 DDR Ram, NVIDIA GE Force 2 video card (which I don't believe Poser 5 even uses). Works fine for most stuff. If I need more than 3 characters, I do them individually and either export as .obj's to render in Vue (which is a much better rendering software and provides an easy to create environment to place characters in) or do individual renders and set up the layers in PsP 8. I'm done wasting my time waiting for CL to do anything useful with this software. Will use it until someone else comes up with something better that accomodates the models I've purchased.

CL did this before with the interface. It was SR1.2 or something like that. They accidently released one of the programmer's preferences on screen resolution rather than the default one. There was a brief thread in there about it and a fix the next day. Why did they make the same mistake again and why is it taking so long to fix it? And I'm on a 2.1 athelon with 1g ram and ATI 8500DV with an ASUS A7M266 board. As for the work around, what if I get all screwed up and have to go back to factory state to fix it like has happened before here? That means I have to go to high resolution where I can't see anything, move it around, yada yada? CL should just fix the damn thing so that we don't have this problem. Its not an odd "gotcha" for the programmers, its a known procedure for them and just sloppy work that they don't want to fix.

I installed SR3 on top of my existing installation of SR2.1, and didn't have any problems with the interface. The dots were exactly where I left them, even when I load older PZ3 files. And I too run Poser at 1024x768.

No, I don't know why it works for me.

other than the memDots, any more know problems?

The only big issue left as far as I'm concerned, other than memory leaks and potential speed optimizations, is the raytraced reflection bug. I've discovered a workaround, but I'd still like to have reflections with shadow maps enabled.

No problems for me except, now it runs slower since I installed the SR3 :o(

Kevin suggested I try a risky procedure, rerun SR 2.1 over SR3. I did, it worked. The only caveat is to do it when you have nothing else going because it reboots without giving you the option to wait. Guess CL thinks they are so important that they can command your system to shut down and restart without the option of saving your work. Again, amature programming. But what can I say, I have an interface that works now and even if I'm back to the 2.1 bugs, at least I can work with P5.

Poser 5 is great, but it is DIFFERENT. One thing it does differently is that if you launch Poser 5 by double clicking a .pz3 (or .pzz) file, it will NOT read the document settings, but will launch to the previous window state or to the default state. In order to get P5 to read the document preferences stored in a file made on Poser 4, you must first launch Poser 5 and THEN load your file using the File>Open dialog. It will then properly adjust the workspace to whatever was saved in the file.

Bryce has a nasty habit of crapping out when you double click a bryce file. It doesn't work all that well in Vue either. Not sure why these aps are so quirky about it, but they all seem to have that in common. Thus, I never double click these files, but do as ronstuff suggests and open the app first.

Ye gods and fishes... opening the application and THEN opening or loading the file is and has been "standard operating procedure" since the days of 2d sprites and proprietary graphics tools! If you don't load the application first and allow it to install everything, it causes conniptions on Amigas and Macs as well as PCs. Clicking on a datafile (image or name) and expecting things to all load up properly is asking for a bad case of hiccups in the middle of a concert. This isn't just Poser. Vue and Bryce have been mentioned. PhotoShops's native .psd files will open in Quicktime's Picture Viewer if I simply click on them. Since this behavior is fairly universal, across platforms and programs, I wouldn't describe it as a quirk of any particular program or release. Take the time to do things in their proper order. After all, you are dealing with a machine which only understands a series of numbers one following another in order. Get out of order, and get a snitfit. Carolly

Carroly is right if you foolishly let each application fight for ownership of your file types, but if you know how to manage your file types, OLE (Object Linking and Embedding) works just fine except on a few products that were designed for Macintosh and ported to Windows such as Bryce, Photoshop and especially those very aggressive MacAbominations called QuickTime and Stuffit. If you just keep these last two things off your Windows system, most things will work fine (except for Photoshop and Bryce which are still worth the aggravation).

There is another point here, that I forgot to mention above: I have installed cacheman, which as the name suggests, manages the windows cache. In essence, it manages memory and the amount of disk space required as virtual memory. Since installing it, Poser and other apps have become far more stable and I don't get the memory leaks I used to. It's shareware, free for personal use, widely available on the 'net.

Yes, DigitalDreamer, Cacheman is very good for Win98, but not necessary on Win2K or XP. I have several machines on my LAN and some of the older ones are still doing quite well on Win98 with Cacheman running. It helps Poser a lot!

latest release of cacheman seems to help Win2K, which is on my desktop. Not sure 'bout its uses with Xp

Here's some advice for users experiencing distorted UI in lower resolutions: Either: Choose 'Launch to preferred state'. If the problem persists, delete your non-default UI prefs as the SR3 readme suggests (EricOfSD, I think I've proposed this to you here already: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=1233483). Or: If you need to use 'Launch to factory state', go to Runtime/Prefs and create a directory called 'English'. Move your default prefs to that directory. Deleting the non-defaults shouldn't be needed here. Let me know if this helps.