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Poser - OFFICIAL F.A.Q (Last Updated: 2024 Oct 06 11:30 am)
hahaha, no insults... looks really good. I have to agree with you on V3... its all in how you use the morphs. You can end up with a bad tranny job or a really cool character... all up to you. I think the deal is use the morphs that are not just specific to men too... and use magnets when you're missing a morph that you may want. I'm so glad I know how to use magnets now... they make all the difference. I did a similar thing when I was fooling with Aiko, I started using Stephanie's muscularity morphs on the Aiko guy, he turned out really swell, also. Added some mags on his waist to make it less pinched... and wham... its a pretty cool guy, with some cool muscles, and not so beefcake like Mike.
Ah, yes, the famous Talosians, Roddenberry's spin on "Greys" years before "Greys" became popular. While I tweaked the cranial shape, I thought about them as well. However, you can't achieve their well known butt-crack like cranial cleft with the morphs alone. From the front it would be decent, thought. Speaking of trans-gender characters, did you know the Talosians were all played by middle-aged and elderly women? Roddenberry thought they had the frail features he wanted. Of course, if he had the budget and time to have gone with his initial description, they would have been crab-like creatures, not unlike the Garthem from "The Dark Crystal." Sincerely, Bill
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Pretty damn good take on Davros, even if I remember the original version, where the Dalek Cyborgs were developed by Yarveling and Zofian. Oh well, I'm showing my age, so I'll shut up. :) Apart from this comment... If Mike 2 can replicate me (5' 8" and not too muscly) there's no reason why it can't be used for a whole hell of a lot of "non-Mike" type characters.
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thinks about it a while *
Doesn't he have little hoses or cables and some sort of VR headpiece thingy sprouting out of his skull? I definitely recall a boom microphone.
I haven't seen Davros (or watched any Dr. Who) in over ten years. I'm waiting for the complete run of Tom Baker episodes to become available on DVD.
Oooh! So you saw it during it's initial airings in England, eh? Yeah, November of this year, it'll be the 40th anniversary of its debut. I didn't start seeing until August of '82, starting, as did many American, with tom Baker. So my introduction to the Daleks was with Davros. For me, I saw that as simply part of the continuity. But for a long-time viewer it England, this change in their origin must have been absolutely scandalous. Since Davrose was depicted with two rather different make-up designs, I kinda' mixed and matched what I liked from both Michael Wisher's and Terry Molley's features. Yeah, I know a little bit about the production history. Not much, but a little. ;-) Sincerely, Bill
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Hi, LD! You're quite correct! A pair of tightly coiled wires branched away from the cyber-eye and fed to a bio-feedback array crowning his skull. A boom microphone wrapped from the left side to his mouth. Plus, he had a curled I-beam type brace shaped almost like a question mark that steadied his head. The top section of his seat back curled over the front of his shoulders, suggesting another kind of brace. This is definitely a WIP. I will have to model the rest of his appliances. Good memory! Sincerely, Bill
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Yup, Baker was the best. Absolutely barking mad, too - which always helps. :)
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I don't know if you've got Boris from Capsces, but he HAS a scull that can be retracted, as well as forehead wrinkles. And he's based on Mike. Great work btw :o)
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aaah Davros.. very very good work so far! there is a Poser Dalek out there... I think at one point, it was in the freestuff here.. I'll see if I can find where I got it from.. any plans to put this in freestuff later? I can already see a few scenes I'd like to do.. now.. all we need is an Ogron, Cyberman (all types), Sontaran, Rutan, Ice Warrior, Time Lord Robes, Callestans Guard Uniforms, at this point Kai was led off to take his medication and a lie down
I want to thank everyone who provided reference addresses for Dalek models. Truth is, I have several of those models. My initial statement about "stealing" a Dalek actually meant I would load the mesh into a modeler (TrueSpace in my case) and delete the upper sections, leaving the bubble festooned "skirt." Will I release as a freebie? You guys actually want my feeble efforts?! Er, I can save it as a face or pose file, thereby keeping legal in the eyes of DAZ. Which one, the V3, Michael or both? Sincerely, Bill
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hehe, good stuff. Yeah, I first watched Doctor Who in the 80's on PBS with Tom Baker. Best stuff ever! Used to come on Saturday nights. My friends would go out... I was like, are you kidding? Doctor Who is on!!! What the hell happened to PBS - had some really great Brits stuff on when I was growing up: The Avengers, The Prisoner, UFO, The Invaders, Fawlty Towers, Benny Hill and DOCTOR WHO!!! Man, I think I have every techo and rock version of the Dr. Who theme song ever made. Including the infamous "Doctoring the Tardis" by the Jam (aka KLF).
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Thought I'd try Mimic on the ol' psychotic geezer. This clip is using the Michael 2 geometry. I created it in "current display" mode without textures and shadows for a quick render. You can see a bit of the magnet in the background. I think this is Terry Molloy's voice instead of the earlier Michael Wisher. You'll need DivX to view the clip. Sincerely, BillTempt the Hand of Fate and it'll give you the "finger"!
Attached Link: http://www.mzzkiti.com/Davros-3.AVI
Here's the V3 version. Same monologue. I forgot to state each clip is just over 500 KB, so even someone on a dial-up shouldn't have to wait terribly long. I goofed the first time and Davros ended up with a neutral expression and open eyes. I spawned a morph, reset the features and then spun the spawned morph before adding the Mimic pose. This time, he retained his scowl. Again, DivX. Hey, it's got a fantastic compression ratio. Sincerely, BillTempt the Hand of Fate and it'll give you the "finger"!
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Ah, yes, "Resurrection of the Daleks," the first of several serials with Terry Molloy as the Kaled genius. Slightly different from the Michael Wisher mask, both both had multiple wrinkles above his brow bone and surrounding his cyber-eye. I freely admit my version lacks these features. I can't achieve that with the supplied dials. If I really want to do him justice, I'll have to break down and buy "Extreme Morph 3D" by Konan. Then he'll really become a prune face! Sincerely, Bill
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We could always attempt some custom morphs to help out further... I'd have to examine the V3 mesh but what do we need? Multiple forehead wrinkles? I'll have to try snapping some reference images from Resurrection of the Daleks, see if I can create some custom morphs in Cinema4d or even Poser (a couple of tricks shoudl make doing forehead wrinkles slightly easier). Cheers, Cliff Bowman PS can you supply a wireframe image to help judge whether the mesh is dense enough to do under-third-eye wrinkles using mesh deformations rather than displacement mapping? Oh yeah - in Poser 5 we could displacement map a certain amount of extra detail in...
Please do a tut :o 9I loved your Fluffy tut and it is always great to learn something new :o)
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Sure, Cliff, I'll send you what you need. However, it'll have to be this evening as I have just arrived at work. As for the zombie texture, you can find that at DAZ. It's not labeled as a zombie pack as there are other characters included, but the undead brain eater is displayed prominantly for all to lose their lunch. ;-) RHaseltine, that's a clever use of the horn pack, but the lobes of tissue surrounding the cyber-eye are not so symmetrical. Still, it could be enhanced and shaped further with magnets (which I've yet to learn) Sincerely, Bill
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Well I started a tutorial over at: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=1322689 I took a quick break, mostly to sort out my kid and get him a snack, but it suddenly occurred to me - ernyoka1, how have you been getting on with displacement maps? I'm far from the greatest painter in the world, but do you want me to attempt to tack on a quick displacement painting comment or two for a Poser-5 specific set of victoria3 forehead wrinkles if I get time? Or let you paint white wrikle lines fading down to a black base? (that's all that's needed). Cheers, Cliff'Ah, yes, "Resurrection of the Daleks," the first of several serials with Terry Molloy as the Kaled genius. Slightly different from the Michael Wisher mask, both both had multiple wrinkles above his brow bone and surrounding his cyber-eye. I freely admit my version lacks these features. I can't achieve that with the supplied dials.' actually.. thats the same mask. the Beeb were to cheap to make a new one when Wisher was unable to play Davros again. the extra wrinkles are where the mask was folded.. it was moulded to Wisher you see :( damn you BBC.. bring back the Doc with a decent budget! oh btw.. did you all realise.. it's the 40th birthday this September!
i grew up with the doctor (late pertwee and all of baker : ) i was even in the doctor who fan club at the time..... it'[s great to see somebody doing characters from the show (it has even inspired me to maybe produce a cyberman : ) ps did anybody see top gear last week when they had a race between all the nasty critters in the universe (the klingon won , mind you he cheated and cloaked his little honda r type : ) the poor dalek couldn't even get in the car (so it's not just stairs that confuse them : )...... I had expected vader to place a bit higher by using some dastardly dark force moves on his competitors tho ........ the doctor came a respectable 3rd........
Bill has long since provided me with the Davros settings BTW - the delay in getting forehead/third eye wrinkles done is entirely down to me, my customers, and my immediate family. We're hoping to set aside a couple of hours this weekend for me to actually DO stuff, during which I hope to add what little I can to Bill's sterling work.
Hehe you're using too much time to ponder over the next caption for my likkle contest! THAT'S what you've been doing ;o)
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You just can't put the words "Poserites" and "happy" in the same sentence - didn't you know that? LaurieA
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Looks great :o) And yes, Boris is a great character, there are so many possibilities that can't be achieved with the normal Mike (or even V3 for that matter) Boris is different :o)
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You just can't put the words "Poserites" and "happy" in the same sentence - didn't you know that? LaurieA
Using Poser since 2002. Currently at Version 11.1 - Win 10.
I'll admit I'm rather happy with my Michael/Boris version. I completely understand about the domestics concerns. Don't feel obligated to create the wrinkles for me, though I admit to a certain amount of professional and artistic curiosity. I certainly won't refuse them if offered. If you think others will benefit, then by all means, knock yourself out! Glad to hear you're still with us! Sincerely, Bill
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Still with you but fighting - I found out that the latest Windows patch (SR4) installed on all my Win2k C's... killed 'em dead. Oh they LOOKED ok, until you try and run Poser of Paint Shop Pro or...urgh. So I've been recovering the PC's and now kid is home. I WANT to get the wrinkles right, if on;y because it's something I've already determined to do... and it'd be nice to do wrinkles that go the right way above and below an eye (and hey, it'd be nice to show how little talent you really neeed to do some of this stuff!). Time is as ever my enemy, but I'm determined . Oh - kid is now 2 years old (birthday yesterday) and my, don't they get the hang of presents REALLY WELL even at this stage? . I'm pleased at how well he says "Dinosaur!" (even if sometimes that really should be "Lion"). Cheers, Cliff
Finally this evening I got some time. I admit that having seen the Mike/Boris (Boris is a set of Mike morphs I'm assuming?) that I'm a bit dispirited with the idea of furthering the V3 version. Plus unravelling the "crease" on the V3 head to re-do as wrinkles has been trickier than expected, but mostly I've been out of time and low on "oomph" (especially after Windows 2K SP4 knackered several PC's here). But how's this going? I've worked on the top two "wrinkles", done almost nothing on the lower two (which need dropping down and bending around the "eye". thoughts, comments? A "with lines" screen capture of the Mike version so I can see what vertices are around the eye and I'll tackle that instead? Cheers, Cliff PS any offers to do stuff are "as when when it happens". A sad comment to include :(
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