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Subject: Magical Pink Pony?
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It was before my time, but here is an explanation, of sorts. "The people of C&D (Complaint and Debate) decided to vote this image into the top 20 images in the Poser Art Gallery for fun. Once it hit #1, the sparks really started to fly with the people who were used to being #1." The links to the Pink Pony images don't go anywhere, but then neither will any discussion about the Pink Pony.
I believe Doc created the Magic Pink Pony as a protest of the Poser Hot 20 which he (and a lot of other members) believe is nothing more then a popularity contest. From what I recall he created a series of images and his friends and others who may not have been his friends but agreed with his POV voted them all into the Top 20 which ticked a lot of people off. I could be wrong though, I don't claim to speak for Doc Legume ;) I think he used the Poser horse with a pink texture and added some wings.
i can't remember the full story but creepy was a clown made in the early days of P3 and he got a cult status with folks thinking up new images to include him in, you know he'd like pop up flying an F16 or something LOL...he was created by a chap called Don Tatro??? (sorry i'm terrible with names) and Legume had a lot to do with him...you can still see him now and then on the poser newsgroup...heres his gallery http://www.creepyclown.com/...pink pony was a pink horse made up by legume at a time when everyone was up in arms about the hot top 20 it looked a bit like "my little pony" and basically took over the poser hot top 20 much to soime amusment and other's disgust...i'm staying neutral ;o).....anyway thats like the short version i'm sure someone will expand ;o)......Steve
I know that, Sharen (too bad...it would be funny to see them all again), but jade_nyc is right, the pink pony was just a pink horse with wings, rather poorly arranged so they stuck through the body. This all goes to show that the complaints about popularity contests and the Hot 20 have been around for a long time (as far as this community goes).
By the way, I don't think the Pink Pony is necessarily related to beating a dead horse (could be---I don't know Legume well enough to say how his mind works), which is an ancient cliche. The Internet joke that circles endlessly about dead horses: Dakota Indian tribal wisdom says that when you discover you are riding a colloquial dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount. However, in modern organizations, we often try other strategies with dead horses, including the following: - buying a stronger whip - changing riders - saying things like "This is the way we always have ridden this horse" - appointing a committee to the study the horse - arranging to visit other sites to see how they ride dead horses - increasing the standards to ride dead horses - appointing a tiger team to revive the dead horses - creating a training session to increase our riding ability - comparing the state of dead horses in today's environment - passing a resolution declaring: "This horse is not dead" - blaming the horses' ancestry - harnessing several dead horses for increased speed - declaring that "No horse is too dead to beat" - providing addtional funding to increase the horse's performance - do a study to see if contractors can ride it cheaper - declare the horse is better, faster and cheaper dead - form a quality circle to find uses for dead horses - revisit the performance requirements for dead horses - say that this horse was procured with cost as the independent variable - promote the dead horse to a suprvisory position Seems strangely applicable to many situations, doesn't it?
Snide remark my arse... :) Though I'm gratified to be called an "oldie" "I'm ready for my close-up now Mr DeMille" :P But yes, it did reference the fact that a lot of people got very sniffy about the fact that Legume, annoyed with having his "art" deleted from the galleries, posted sacherine sweet fluff, we all voted it to the top, (at one point he had 15 of the top 20) people left, came back again, hilarity ensued. I believe he may still be found, or at least his ghost may, (praise Bob!) at renderotica, some of us you see don't take this very seriously at all. later jb
OK, I think I understand, now. Thank you, everyone! I should have known that it was a Legume creation. :-) Yes, Legume is still at 'Rotica, and is active in the Church of the SugGenius. He was on their radio show not too long ago. praxis22, sorry if my choice of words was poor, I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, no offense intended. Steve, your memory for names is apparently very good! Don Tatro created Creepy Clown several years ago for the Bryce newsgroup. He's now very much alive and well at the alt.bianries.3d.poser newsgroup. "Cult of..." was my own verbage. Creepy has taken on a life of his own, which must be very strange for Don! Remember that "dancing baby" screensaver that was everywhere a few years ago? The running joke is that Creepy is the enemy of the "db," because his goal is "utter pervasiveness." Recognizing the pervasiveness of the db's, Creepy set out to destroy them. He's still doing that to this day. Several anti-Creepy people have rendered the dancing baby's revenge on the Clown, but he keeps coming back. The other thing to know is that Creepy has magical ways of seduction with sexy women, much to the consternation of many men. This is why when many people see a new Creepy render, their only response is "damn clown..." :-) The pony pictures are probably gone because when Legume left this site, he deleted his gallery and most of his postings.
Damn, I'm glad I downloaded them when I did. The only one I missed was Mr. Fluffer's Airplane, which apparently lasted about five minutes before the mods removed it. The Pink Pony stuff? Brilliant, as far as I'm concerned. Not only was the Hot 20 a popularity contest, it was decidedly boring to the extreme, with everything done with massive amounts of post work and subject matter that would have put Xerox to shame. Doc shook it up for a while. I haven't been back to the Hot 20 in a while, but I imagine it's back to the same old same old.
What happened to Doc anyway? Did he leave here? I haven't seen or heard from him since shortly after--or during--the P5 release battles. I think Legume came up with the pink pony as a protest of reactions to his other artwork. But yeah, the pink pony is his brainchild, then came a green pony whose name I don't remember, then Mr. Fluffers the rabbit, then the armadillo. Jesus and Hitler also appeared. Rosity closing the C&D forum was a direct result of the Pink Pony, I believe. They replaced it with the "Off-Topic" forum.
....I miss the Pink Pony. Dr. Legume made some excellent and absurd points here. And I for one miss his profound input and viewpoint. His work could never be called classic, but it was always interesting in some strange and magical (and sometimes corrupt) way. I raise my glass to the good Doctor Legume! Long may his Pink Pony wave! Now, someone pass me more bourbon, please.
Doc Legume made art. Technically his stuff was often seriously lacking, but the ideas and the way he expressed them were indeed ART. Often his images were controversial and deliberately so. He caused people to think about their assumptions. This is an extremely uncomfortable thing for a lot of people who got really upset whenever he posted an image. Many of his images were pulled from the gallery by the mods... just because people complained. They didn't violate the TOS... they just violated people's sense of what was right and pretty with the world. The image of Hitler in the nude with an armadillo under his arm or Jesus Christ racing on an armidillo didn't break any laws. If anybody died of apoplexy, we never heard about it, and it probably wouldn't be his fault anyway. After too many of his images were pulled, he decided to mock the establishment with the Pink Pony series. Unfortunately for him, these were ART too in many cases. Despite his attempts to not be serious, the points he was making shoved them over the boundary into artistic consciousness, and even more people got upset with him. I seldom look at the galleries unless somebody has called my attention to an image. But when the Doc was creating, I'd check daily to see what had sprouted. And, yes, I miss him. Carolly
xoconostle ... Creepy would have reason to be afraid of me, very afraid. ;) Carolly...I doubt if I would agree with you about Legume's position as an artist, but I do agree with you that Legume provoked thought and passion (so does graffitti and there's a lot of graffitti that is just vandalism and not art at all). There is a lot of what is on the galleries (including my stuff, I admit) that induce a sleepy "that's nice" and a yawn. But Legume's stuff forced one to make a decision...pretty hard to be neutral about Legume. You could have a lively discussion about whether or not it was art...which is more than you can have about the latest pinup. I know people love their pinups...but aside from being able to say, "good lighting" or "nice postwork," it's hard to get really excited to see yet another go up because there are so many that look alike. Legume's stuff you might hate, but you had something to talk about, and his stuff looked like no one else's. I don't really miss Legume the same way as the people who knew him better, but I do admit he added spice around here. Sometimes it made me gag but it was interesting.
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I **told** EA that his comment would resurrect the annoying thing. It was a **menace** I tell you, a ***menace***.;) 'gume even had a cafepress store for the magical pink pony but it's gone now. The magical pink pony is dead. LONNNNG may it rest in pieces.
(ah, it wasn't that bad. one of those things you love to hate. :))
...... Kendra
Doc's like the Howard Stern of this community. Some like him, some don't. He wanted attention and he got attention. I didn't necessarily agree with him, but I didn't condone his methods either. Afterall he proved his point. The Hot 20 was and is still a popularity contest. Those of us who'd been here for awhile just shoved it aside and get on with out lives. And we don't miss that pink dead horse a bit. Just my 1 cent (bad economy yanno). JV >:D
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It started after I joined, so I remember well. I looked every day to see what was new, didn't want to miss anything. Quite often you had to be quick before it was gone. Always a story behind the render. Always a controversy. I had a good laugh at the uprisings it caused. Maybe we need another shake-up. It didn't hurt/maybe needed, last time.
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Howard Stern? Nah, I've always considered him more of a Frank Zappa. Sometimes smart and on-target, sometimes shocking just for the sake of being shocking, sometimes just plain silly, usually controversial, always entertaining, and mostly misunderstood. After an ugly incident where the AOY voting was "mistakenly" open to the members, then pulled when Legume started winning, he finally gave up, deleted everything, and left here (and unlike most, he's stayed gone). I doubt you'll ever see him here again, and R'osity is far less fun for the loss. (*sniff* Damn, I miss Mr. Fluffers!) Unfortunately, he's having health problems so I'm not sure how much you'll see him ANYWHERE these days, though Renderotica would probably be the first place to look.
Creepy is still around..Don Tatro is a regular at the Delphi Bryce Forum, and (I think--3D Commune..) and still manages a few pics of Creepy from time to time. He also does many many other off-beat humorous renders with several other characters in weird situations, including a guy called 'Bill the Bumbler'.
RosemaryR
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"This...this is magnificent!"
"Oh, yeah. Ooooo. Aaaaah. That's how it starts.
Then, later, there's ...running. And....screaming."
Maybe Diane or someone should nab this thread and send a copy to him? People with health problems are sometimes depressed (having to give up cheeseburgers or other favorite food would depress anybody even without other problems), and it might cheer him up to realize that he is missed, and that the impact he made remains. Carolly
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OK, I can't stand it any more. What is/was the Pink Pony, and what does it signify? Is there a model I can download somewhere, and if so, is there some way I can "get to know" what this figure's significance is? I'm already very well aware of the Cult of Creepy Clown...maybe it's time to pony up to the Equus Pinkus. I can only remember seeing one Pink Pony image. It was by Doc Legume, part of an intentionally provocative image on the theme of clean hypodermic needles. People laughed, people said "U R Sick," people groaned, and the good Doctor was probably satisfied that he'd gotten what he was looking for. Is the pony the same as the proverbial oft-beaten "dead horse?" That appears to be one referential context. Someone starts a thread on a theme that has been re-hashed a few times, and some Rosity oldbie steps in to make a snide remark about the pony without any explanatory comment. Am I on the right track, here, so to speak? Please cure my ignorance on this important subject. Or move the thread, if I've unwittingly committed the sin of off-topic-ness. :-)