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Subject: The only way you are ever going to see these questions...


_Audrey ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2003 at 1:55 PM · edited Fri, 06 December 2024 at 2:39 AM

if is they are posted somewhere other than Tim's spotlightm, because if they are only submitted there they will be ignored altogether. However, if I post them here, at least you will see the questions, and maybe, just maybe, someone will feel more inclined to answer them. So this is what I asked: Regarding site and speed improvements: My husband, the infamous Dodger, is capable of and has duplicated and improved on the basic design of the Renderosity forums in an amazingly small amount of time. IN other words, he recreated what is here from scratch, then added features and functionality to his scripts such as automatic image resizing so that attachment images weren't ever rejected, true threading with no speed decrease, and so on. This was one man programming away on Linux. If he could do his beta stage in only one week (the server was lost) why does every change to Renderosity take so long? Regarding Renderosity's policies: Renderosity as an entity seems to have an alarming habit of asking everyone's opinions on upcoming policy changes and then disregarding the results altogether. Will this ever change? Regarding application of TOS and policy's: The fact that I stated in the first question here, the development time thing... that was why my husband was really targeted, wasn't it? Because he was building a competing brokerage, and he was doing it from whole cloth, not by sticking up a PHP or ASP package -- which meant that his site could actually be a theeat. Regarding merchant sales: Does Renderosity care at all that a merchant cannot possibly match the sales they would receive on DAZ when selling at Renderosity? Your level playing field comes out less as an example of evolution and more as an allegory for cold war era Russia. By forcing this 'level' playing field, you create a situation where it takes a tremendous amount of effort to be noticed among the throng. Regarding Renderosity's attitude in general: This site as a whole isn't really capable of admitting it's wrong ever, is it? That's why this question is going to be disregarded, isn't it? As a matter of fact, posting this message in another forum will be the only way the questions in it will ever be seen, right?


SAMS3D ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2003 at 2:02 PM

Not to worry, I have seen it and read it. I am not really sure I understood all the implications due to the fact that I am not up to speed on what happened to Dodger. I am assuming it has to do with his store that was here and the store he had on the net. I wish I could comment, just not sure what to say given the facts that I am not sure of what happened. But I did read your quesiton. Sharen


TalleyJC ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2003 at 2:11 PM

These are not the droids I am looking for.....I'll move along.............there is no spoon


dialyn ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2003 at 2:19 PM

I read it and this is all I have to say. Sharen is one of the nicest merchants and community members around. If everyone had Sam3d's generosity of spirit, the world would be a better place. That's all for me.


PandaPride ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2003 at 3:12 PM

Well you k now if you really think about it if you have a die hard question and it doesn't get answered you tend to get very frustrated. Minus the few times this has happened to me here, I have had nothing but a happy experience here. Prehaps the set up could use a little work, but I'm rather happy with it. I do however feel that maybe there should be a seprate thread for die hard in need of poser help ASAP....


ScottA ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2003 at 5:23 PM

Talk is cheap. Put up or shut up. Show me the money!


JeffH ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2003 at 7:10 PM

Where might we see this master work of duplication?

Anyway, you're not making much sense. Have Dodger e-mail me and explain it if he likes. He's still got my address right?

-Jeff


CyberStretch ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2003 at 7:30 PM

"Where might we see this master work of duplication?"

Do I sense some blatant hostility in this remark? It surely does not sound member- nor family-friendly. As a representative of R'osity, I would hope that there would be more tact and professionalism involved wheras that is what is expected of the members.


JeniferC ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2003 at 9:14 PM

It was simply a question to find out the site address. Renderosity is a large site in which there are hundreds of change request, so the delay is often getting to the request when the "to do" list is so long. Also, each change can effect other areas of the site or the way it performs for users, so it's important for us to take time to make sure we do things right. Renderosity's policies are updated at least once a year and are based on requests from members. Your husband wasn't attacked for working on a competitive site. Your husband was banned for TOS violations. Merchant sales vary at any online store. Some merchants claim we offer them the best sales, other merchants say we don't. I'm sure it very per individual. We are reviewing ways to improve the quality issues that have been raised, while still be able to be an open Marketplace instead of selective based on our opinion of "quality". I'm sorry that you perceive our attitude to be "always right". We haven't always handled things correctly and we've been wrong--we do not claim to be perfect. We are constantly trying to improve. Jenifer

 


_Audrey ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2003 at 11:44 PM

My husband was NOT banned for TOS violations. That is an outright LIE. No, my husband was banned for saying he could see up someone's nose. Someone who had repeatedly goaded him. Someone who I expect to show up in this thread and try to goad him by proxy, actually. Someone who has a REPUTATION for goading people as the IMs he and I received show -- a troublemaker who gets away with it. Why you keep Paul around and bar Dodger is not only beyond me, it's beyond a lot of other people's comprehension, too. Saying he could see up someone's nose. That's not a TOS violation. Spike was trigger happy and looking for any reason he could get, and went with a stupid excuse instead. My curiosity is whether this was something personal on spike's part or a targeted attack for building a competing site. Jeff, the site -- XFX3d -- is down because the ISP where the server was colocated spontaneously went out of business and Dodger hasn't been able to get the machine back with all his code on it. However, there are a number of members here -- including TrekkieGirl, who many people know well -- that were beta testing the forum and gallery system before this happened. As far as handling things incorrectly and being wrong, you bet your asses you have. Dodger's case being an excellent case in point.


aggelos ( ) posted Wed, 22 October 2003 at 12:14 AM

At the risk of getting banned myself, Audrey I have noticed a good ol boys attitude when it comes to who gets the bann and who doesnt. I have thought well maybe thats just my own perception, but apparently, there are a few others who see this as well.


TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Wed, 22 October 2003 at 3:10 AM

I'll not get involved in the discussion as such, but yes, I have seen - and tested Dodger's "master work of duplication" and it worked just fine, before the server went away.

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bikermouse ( ) posted Wed, 22 October 2003 at 5:13 AM

_Audrey, I think you and _Dodger already know how unfair I feel that it was that _Dodger had to take the heat for that unfortunate statement given the circumstances of it's occurance and I couldn't agree with you more ... but still as I understand it, it was only a seven day time out not a permanant banning, not so? I look forward to seeing this so called "master work of duplication"(LOL-thats a mouthful) in action someday, and wish the two of you the best with it, but I also think that implicating anyone on a public forum in relartion to your softwares isn't the proper thing to do. Again my best regards, - TJ


pakled ( ) posted Wed, 22 October 2003 at 12:38 PM

hi..
Actually, the competing website thing never entered my mind as a reason for banning/competing/whatever. I like Dodger just fine, no matter how many __'s preceded his name..;) I think I even went out to this mysterious site, but it was still in the beta stage, or something to that effect.
I know for a fact that 'rosity was 'wrong' the day they locked out picture downloads..that mysteriously 'righted' itself in one day (bet they still have headaches over that one..;)..and when they started with the 'new colors'(new Coke) scheme for the web site, a simple message from me (and no doubt many others) allowed for changing of the links and visited links attributes as wellDon't know what 'ol Dodger's up to, but I miss the rayguns..and I know someone around here was looking for his 'ultimate light saber' pack recently. Tell him hello from his friends, and maybe someday we'll see his stuff around here in print. If not, he can 'IM' me, hope he's doing ok.

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


bikermouse ( ) posted Wed, 22 October 2003 at 1:07 PM

Well you can say what you want about _Dodger, but he is one of the few people who took the time to explain to me the concept of hotpoints and composition in detail. My conversation with him took about 3 days and spanned three or four forums. He had the patience it took to get the ideas across to me and stuck with it until he was sure that I had grasped the concepts. There are very few people so generous with their time and knowledge on this personal a level. I'm sure he had other things to do at the time too. Personally I wish he'd come back to renderosity; he was more of an asset to this community than one unfortunate, and in my opinion, baited, remark could ever derail. - TJ


nnuu ( ) posted Wed, 22 October 2003 at 1:13 PM

if im not mistaken i think i saw him at cgtalk if anyone is interested


_Audrey ( ) posted Wed, 22 October 2003 at 2:39 PM

Dodger is active at PoserPros By the wat the point of DOdger's site was not this whole "master work of duplication" thing so much as it was to make the point that if one person can create a site as complex as or more complex than Renderosity from scratch in only a week than certainly Renderosity can get off its ass and make some improvements to the system.


CyberStretch ( ) posted Wed, 22 October 2003 at 9:31 PM

"*It was simply a question to find out the site address.

  • "

Beta stage does not make a "master work of duplication". Why not just ask for the address if that was what was intended?

It just goes to show that the R'osity Admins/Mods stick up for each other at the expense of its membership. Not a good face to the public, IMHO.


pakled ( ) posted Wed, 22 October 2003 at 9:48 PM

well...uh...I...uh..forgot the web page..kinda embarrasing to ask for it now..;) I think the Internet's big enough for the both of 'em..

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


aggelos ( ) posted Thu, 23 October 2003 at 3:01 PM

pakled that would be me. I was looking for his "lightsabers". I finally found them on his own private page. But yeah thats what I am talkinga bout pakled, dodger has contributed alot of things like that in the free stuff. When he probably could have sold them as in my opinion those products I have that he created are just as every bit o good as some of those I see in the market place here.


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