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Subject: New character In free stuff.


thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 2:24 PM · edited Sun, 02 February 2025 at 10:11 PM

Hay I just wanted to let you know that you can find my new character "Teen Jenny" In the free stuff ;)

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SWAMP ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 2:52 PM

Thank you,but..... That DL is over 26 MEGABYTES!!...what is in it? SWAMP


thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 2:57 PM

Hi res Textures for the mat pose I think they are the 22 MEGABYTES !!! The rest is the character and mat poes ;)

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FishNose ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:09 PM

It appears that the textures in this package are based on one of Zrincx's commercial packages. Is this correct? If so, why are you offering it as a freebie? :] Fish


SamTherapy ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:11 PM

Oh, Christ. I just downloaded and installed the damn thing. I'll delete it. Damn damn damn damn and damn.

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thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:16 PM

No fish It is based on a free tex that I found on a Jap site for some time a go :)

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thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:18 PM

SamTherapy whats wrong with it Im new in this tell me so I can fix it ....

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:19 PM

Ok, another question... DO you have permission from the Japanese site to redistribute?

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:21 PM

What's wrong is that if it is a copyright infringement, I don't want it on my HD. That's what I meant.

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thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:22 PM

It have a free copyright at least on the readme so it shuld be ok to use it .... ?

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:23 PM

Another thing about basing a texture on someone else's, even if you have permission... It's considered polite to at least credit the original creator.

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FishNose ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:23 PM

No it is NOT a free tex. That tex is created from original photos by a good friend of mine - Zrincx. If you found it on another site for free, then THEY have infringed copyright. I am in the process of trying to get hold of Zrincx to bring him over here and look at it. But I have already been able to identify all the details in both the body and headtexs as uniquely Zrincx's. Please give us the URL to that site so we can go chase them. :] Fish


thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:24 PM

SamTherapy can you tell me what you think is wrong wit the character ???

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:24 PM

Please post a link to the original. I'd like to read it for myself.

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SWAMP ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:27 PM

Could you post that readme here?


thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:31 PM

Well if I think It is best if I stop the download of this character untill we know if this tex is mad by your friend Zrincx. I go and delete it on my site now And Ill see if i can find that Jap site my bookmaks I have abaut 5000 so it will take some time.

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FishNose ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:38 PM

file_84592.jpg

Okay..... Here's a comparison of Z's original (LEFT tex) and the one included in Jenny (RIGHT tex). ONLY difference is that Z's copyright text has been removed. The texs are otherwise EXACTLY the same in size and appearance. (This is a heavily reduced size I've posted here and defaced w Specimen text) You would be wise to remove this freebie immediately. It may well be that the rest of the package is perfectly fine - but then without the textures. :] Fish


thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:39 PM

Im looking thrug my hd now I dont know if I still have that readme but if I still have it I,ll post it here And I have stoped the down load I dont want to step on any ones copyright.....But I Think I have that Jap site in my bookmaks so wait a bit it takes time to look thrug so manny sites !!!

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thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:48 PM

Well I have deleted the download for now and Ill delete the texture I have used as a base from my hd to as I have not payed for it... then Ill post the character at a latere time when I have finis my oven texture ... It is a good thing that this was found out so soon and Im realye sorry that I posted this package now instead of waithing untill my texture was finished !!!

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fauve ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:49 PM

file_84593.jpg

I downloaded this freebie a little while ago and opened it up to try it out. All of the mat poses for "Teen Jenny" were searching for a texture that wasn't included in Wishmaster's zip file. Guess what that file, and file path, was?

Case closed. zaps file and empties recycle bin


FishNose ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:52 PM

Attached Link: http://secure.daz3d.com/shop.php?op=itemdetails&item=867

Just confirmed it. One of the most beautiful tex packages ever created in my opinion. :] Fish


SamTherapy ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:53 PM

Gone from my HD, too.

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FishNose ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:55 PM

... Immediately. More than 250 people did. :] Fish


dlk30341 ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 3:58 PM

Will it EVER end......


thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 4:12 PM

Im sorry Fish I did not know that It had a copyright as I downloaded it copyright free I have deleted the texture from my hd so I cant say if this is the texture but the folder name in my texture was Zrincx so I can only say that Im so sorry and as soon as I find that site ore readme Ill send it to you I think that you will know what to do with it Im realye sorry I did not intent to do somthing wrong I hope you understad....Well I will go and look for that jap site and Ill get back when I know more.

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thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 4:16 PM

Well that is a lesson I have lerand I did realye think that it was ok to use this tex ore I would never have used it...

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PheonixRising ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 4:17 PM

NEVER NEVER NEVER make anything from what you FIND on the web. You can NEVER assume someone else is ethical. Only ever use your own work if you are not 100% sure.

-Anton, creator of ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the face of truth is concealment."



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thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 4:19 PM

Well that is a lesson I have lerand I did realye think that it was ok to use this tex ore I would never have used it...

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PheonixRising ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 4:25 PM

Respectfully there are some points I would like to mention that I do not understand. 1) You have to have had his goddess texture under his name or else that MAT would give you an error message. 2) You had to edit the file for the MAT Pose and his name is right there???? I assume all the other lines you replaced have his name on those lines too? Lastly is your version of Poser valid? why is there a Metacreatiions tag in your listing? That was so many years ago??? Not to make a hard time for you but it looks very suspicious.

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FishNose ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 4:28 PM

Hey, wishmaster - I'm NOT pickin' on you..... believe me, I am well aware that one can make mistakes. It's really easy to miss an issue like this especially if you're fairly new. Even experienced and well known people here have made this kind of mistake..... The most important thing for me here is to INFORM both you and everyone else about the situation as quickly as possible - first and foremost to protect a really nice guy's copyright. And to try and persuade everyone who D'Led to throw it away ASAP. As far as I'm concerned you are MOST WELCOME to post stuff - freebies, images, whatever, show us what cool stuff you can do. But you need to be careful...... So hey, chill, guy :o) :] Fish


Penguinisto ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 4:30 PM

Hrm - I already have (that is, bought) the texture package in question long ago, so it makes no sense to dload 26 MB for something I basically have already. You can re-release it w/o any texture package, but something kinda creeped me out: If I may suggest, in the future don't put up a thumbnail of some semi-adult with her legs splayed out in an erotic pose... not saying it to be a prude, just saying it to prevent the other potential firestorm that's sure to come once enough folks see it. /P


Crescent ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 4:30 PM

I deleted the link in the Free Stuff area. I don't know who approved the file but I'll let everyone know about the problem in the back room. Thanks so much, FishNose, for catching that!


thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 4:41 PM

Well My poser is valid it is old but i have payed for it I have the orginal laying Yes the name was on the folder but dum smock as I am I dident think that it had a copyright I have downloaded manny things from the web and I havent looked at Daz to see if there is a tex that have the same name but maby it would be a good idea to do so I did not know the name Zrincx It is first now the last 5 md i realy have had the time to use poser so I havent a big know how about names in the fild but as i said I`M sorry and I have deleted the download and the tex and every thing else from my hd sorry again

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fauve ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 4:44 PM

file_84594.jpg

I deleted the Teen Jenny zipfile from my hd, then started to clean out the character files, tex files etc from my folders (I'd already installed it.) I decided to have another look at the character before I deleted it, and guess what I found? Looks like this freebie also rips off "Eva", a MP item by soccer-coach, for the body and head morphs.

soccer_coach, as some of you may remember, landed in hot water a while back for his blatant pirating of Blackhearted's "Nia" character.

Zrincx certainly didn't deserve to be the victim of a theft, but I can't feel too bad for soccer_coach. What goes around comes around, I guess. :-)


thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 4:53 PM

Thanks Fish Im glad you say this I hope this will be a lesson not only to me but to all folks I know I will Never use any thing found on the web ever again.... Holly shit I almost shit in my pant...And again Im sorry And I hope you all will forgive me because I made a mistake and on Im not going to make again !!!

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mondoxjake ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 4:55 PM

I came over here immediately as soon as my d/l attempt on the file bombed. One question is, why was the thumbnail not removed when the file was? Does this mean if the pack is realeased w/o the Goddess texture it is okay? [I have the tex pack]. As to the Metacreations tag someone mentioned, I bought my Poser 4 b4 I ever heard of Curious Lab, so I think that is a valid path. As to the refs to zrincx in the PZ2 files, I had seen that name many times on posts when I first started using Poser and had no idea what/who it referred to...maybe everyone is not familiar with the name? I am not trying to defend anyone, I don't know most of the folks making the comments...my point is: Pointing the finger and making even subtle accusations w/o having all the facts is not democratic.


thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 5:08 PM

No fauve Its me I thought that I removed all The Eva morps with morphmanager I did start to model from her and when I finised her I liked her so much that i would giv her to all as thanks for the free stuff I have gotten here I used morphmanager to delet morps This shuld be okay to do ore is this not alawed ???

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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 5:08 PM

'Lastly is your version of Poser valid? why is there a Metacreatiions tag in your listing? That was so many years ago??? Not to make a hard time for you but it looks very suspicious. ' actually if you have the original Poser 4 by Meta, thats the path you get... even if you apply the patches from CL. that 'tag' is actually the path to the program... the path don't change with the patches.....



Blackhearted ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 5:11 PM

"soccer_coach, as some of you may remember, landed in hot water a while back for his blatant pirating of Blackhearted's "Nia" character. Zrincx certainly didn't deserve to be the victim of a theft, but I can't feel too bad for soccer_coach. What goes around comes around, I guess. :-) " unfortunately, given his history i doubt that whatever material of SC's thats in this ripoff was his own to begin with, so its likely that some other poor merchant is probably being ripped off by conduit here. as for him being in hot water? well, he was for a day or two, but hes back selling here in the marketplace again as if nothing had ever happened. at the time when i asked why rosity didnt freeze his merchant cheque since it was such a glaring ripoff of both the morph and texture, stated that unfortunately it was too late to do anything because the cheques had been mailed the day before. well, since SC has been selling in the MP ever since then, theyve had ample opportunity to deduct the stolen profits from his account and refunt the purchasers of his ripoff product. but apparently thats too much of a bother, and hes making them some money so i guess it makes little difference as to where their profit comes from. all hail fucking capitalism.



FishNose ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 5:17 PM

wishmaster - the morphs in hip, chest , lcol and rcol named 'Jenny' all contain the original morph names - 'Eva' or 'Eva1'. I had a quick look through the cr2. So the original morphs by soccer_coach are still there, just renamed 'Jenny'. Right click on the morph's name in Morph Manager and choose properties - you'll see the original name there in all it's glory. There's more info in a Poser file than you may be aware of :o) :] Fish


thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 5:33 PM

Well Fish I have deleted it and Ill for one can say that it will be a long time before I make a character again Ill take me the time and lern every thing by hard ... Ill cant say Im sorry to manny times ...

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Lyrra ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 5:39 PM

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thewishmaster ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 5:52 PM

Its lete her and Ill go to bed have to go to work but Ill see you after work..

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XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 6:13 PM

I think that I believe thewishmaster. This looks like a newbie mistake.

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Zarabanda ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 6:36 PM

I can't understand why anyone would post something in free stuff that they didn't make. What's the point?


Stormrage ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 7:25 PM

"Lastly is your version of Poser valid? why is there a Metacreatiions tag in your listing? That was so many years ago???" Ehmm Phoenix my poser is very valid and the path to it has Metacreations in it. Does this make me look suspicious too? My copy of poser came from Metacreations, My copy of Poser Pro pack as well, but it is still under Metacreations. All the patches have been applied and guess what it's still under Metacreations. That does NOT look suspicious.


JoeyAristophanes ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 7:51 PM

That was so many years ago??? Uhm, no, not really. And like SR's, mine came from Metacreations. Let's reserve the suspicions for the things that matter, like the textures. Insofar as "I can't understand why anyone would post something in free stuff that they didn't make", look at it from the newbie's perspective: he put together what he thought was an original character. Yep, using stuff from the web, but don't a lot of us do that as well at first? How many times have any of us seen a freebie come with a catalog of required pieces from somewhere else? Is this so different?


XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 8:13 PM

Someone truly intent on a rip-off would most likely sell the character. Not post it in freestuff. I am aware of the fact that freestuff items are sometimes stolen, for whatever reason, but I don't think that is the case here. Thewishmaster comes across as a person GENUINELY unaware of the issues involved. At least, that's the way that I read the situation. He knows better now.

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shogakusha ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 8:17 PM

Just a quiet lurker here. I think Phoenix is saying if Wishmaster is all new to Poser and the forums, how did he get a MEtacreations copy of Poser 4. Returning to Lurker mode...


JoeyAristophanes ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 8:25 PM

As bizarre as it sounds, there are some folk around here who think that if you give something away, you're not violating anyone's copyright because you're not making money off it. Hey, I never said it would make sense.


DCArt ( ) posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 8:26 PM

why is there a Metacreatiions tag in your listing? Anyone who purchased Poser 4 before the Metacreations breakup in 2000 has a valid copy of Poser that is installed in the MetaCreations folder by default. When you upgrade to version 4.03 by using the download available by Curious Labs, your program still resides in the MetaCreations folder even though the shortcuts for them say Curious Labs. I can't remember what happens when you install the Pro Pack over the MetaCreations installation because this time around I changed the path to Curious Labs when I did my fresh install of P4. But I would think it also updates everything in the MetaCreations folder so that your runtime stays intact. Am I correct in that assumption?



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