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Subject: Looking for one piece thong suit


ruckstr ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 11:34 AM · edited Tue, 21 January 2025 at 11:21 AM

Anyone know where I might find a one piece thong like this that will conform to Vicki 2?


ruckstr ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 11:35 AM

Backside view...


biggert ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 12:31 PM

did she have to be that huge man?


ruckstr ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 12:37 PM

LOL! I was hoping people would ignore the model as the intended emphasis was on the suit. couldn't find a pic with a more petite model.


PhilC ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 12:43 PM

Attached Link: http://www.philc.net/VlingerieSetB.htm

There is one like that in my V2 lingerie set. Comes with morphs too.

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randym77 ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 12:57 PM

"I was hoping people would ignore the model as the intended emphasis was on the suit." Fat chance. ;-) Try searching for a leotard. There are a lot of them out there, for sale or for free. If you need exactly that cut, maybe you could make your own with a trans map, applied to a leotard, a swimsuit, or even a bodysuit.


biggert ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 1:23 PM

dude....how could someone ignore her? how could you miss? lol =)


Crasher ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 1:48 PM

I personally don't see anything wrong with the model. But then again, I'm a woman, and I don't mind unpetite people. ;)


randym77 ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 2:07 PM

I'm a woman. In an ideal world, looks wouldn't matter. In this world, anyone, old or young, male or female, fat or thin, who dresses on an outfit that revealing invites comment about their body. I'm certainly not going to rip into anyone about it. Especially since it seems to be a pic from a commercial porn site. People are paying money for pics like that, so they can't think she's too ugly.


FishNose ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 2:59 PM

Yeah people who like 'plumpers' are likely to think she's absolutely tiny :o) It's a pity she's carrying so much extra weight, she has enormous potential, good proportions, potentially excellent if she lost about 30 kg and was voluptuous istead of LARGE. I mean, look at her beautiful ankles - that tells you what a nice figure is under all of that. Also a decent waist, and a very nice face. :] Fish


FishNose ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 3:05 PM

Attached Link: Taruru's site

As to the question - check out Taruru's site (Japanese but in English) - he has an excellent thong leotard freebie for Vicki. Also loads of other fantastic clothes. Look under 'Archive' 'Character', at the bottom (scroll) - It's called "Individual Costume" :] Fish


DarkStarRising ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 3:40 PM

also try looking on Specs2 free stuff on here, he has a thong thingy, lol! oh and the model in pic, she aint that big, im slightly bigger then her, nowt wrong with more meat ;)

In the words of DarkStarRising:
"Sadness within sadness,
Darkness within darkness,
a shadow of a form lays upon the floor,
looking at herself
looking at her own shadows of loneliness"


ruckstr ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 3:45 PM

Thanks for all of your input. My apologies if I've offended or repulsed anyone with the photo. Didn't mean to spark a debate over what the ideal female body type should be. I was only after recommendations on the suit. I started a thread requesting this many months ago and people turned it into a discussion about siamize cats. So I figured I wasn't specific enough in my request so I searched the web for the first photo I could find that resembled the suit I was after. I will delete the image.


FishNose ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 5:12 PM

Offended? Repulsed? Hardly lol - she's just a person like the rest of us. Bigger than most but so what? Don't delete the image - that would be silly. :] Fish


Phantast ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 6:21 PM

Creating a transmap for the catsuit to give EXACTLY that cut would not be difficult, and it's a knack worth mastering.


seeklight ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 7:28 PM

oi leave her alone me i love big woman so ner ner ne ner ner


Sydney_Andrews ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 9:28 PM

If this is one of thoes threads that gets locked because it ends up being a 100 post debate about the size of a woman and what people think about it, Id like to go ahead and get my post in now. I have been here for a little over a year, and I always miss the "locked" threads. :) E


vulcanis ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 10:47 PM

Take a look in freestuff. Search for "GaryT". He has a babydoll that comes pretty close to your pic. He has, also, contributed some teddies as well.


geep ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 10:51 PM

ALL women are beautiful !!! She's just a "full figured gal." cheers, dr geep ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019



soulhuntre ( ) posted Sat, 20 December 2003 at 11:55 PM

Umm.... ah. Umm.... Oh never mind. The mind simply boggles. Suffice to say that there is some evidence that there is a in built preferance for humans to find certain charateristics attractive. The woman above is not an example of them :)


mondoxjake ( ) posted Sun, 21 December 2003 at 12:13 AM

I like some meat on my women and am going to check out the site.


Mariamus ( ) posted Sun, 21 December 2003 at 12:37 AM

Soulhuntre: Suffice to say that there is some evidence that there is a in built preferance for humans to find certain charateristics attractive. The woman above is not an example of them :) Are you saying that she's not attractive to anyone? and by certain characteristics, you mean the ype of woman we see in magazines all the time these days? the "twiggy" type? O_o! ever seen old painting of what men in the old days thought as beautiful? she would be one.. and a magazine from today would be the perfect example on how NOT to look..


randym77 ( ) posted Sun, 21 December 2003 at 5:41 AM

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The woman in the thong IS an example of them, actually. I bet Rubens would have loved to have painted her.

Over the decades, the average weights of Miss America winners and Playboy centerfolds have gone down...but their proportions have remained the same. That "hourglass" shape seems to be what men find sexy, perhaps because it's produced by estrogen, and thus signals fertility. That woman may be heavy, but she's very shapely. I could gain 100 pounds, and not look like her -- because I wouldn't gain it in the right places.


Lyrra ( ) posted Sun, 21 December 2003 at 6:25 AM

She looks like a real woman to me, and not an emaciated 13 year old boy with plums in his shirtfront pockets. You people who like skinny breakable women can keep 'em .. I like the solid, padded kind. As for the suit a transmap should modify any fullbody bathing suit nicely, and depending on your model there should be a suit available. I should scold you about posting a photo without permission ... you do know thats a copyright violation, yes? Lyrra



Blackhearted ( ) posted Sun, 21 December 2003 at 8:55 AM

goddamn, you guys are being incredibly harsh and judgemental. "offensive"???? everyone knows i like petite women, but as a full-figured woman 'southernbelle' is very shapely. i dont see sagging, not a hint of cellulite - if youre here bashing her, let me tell you if you gained 60 lbs you could only hope to look as good as her. i happen to think shes a very attractive woman. in fact, id prefer a woman like her over a bonerack like cameron diaz type anyday. cameron diaz epitomizes whats wrong with women these days - you can count all her ribs from the front and back, even under her breasts - she needs to be force-fed some bigmacs. yet shes glorified as an ideal woman. shes no 'ideal woman' in my book. cheers, -gabriel



Rio ( ) posted Sun, 21 December 2003 at 9:03 AM

i dont see sagging, not a hint of cellulite - if youre here bashing her, let me tell you if you gained 60 lbs you could only hope to look as good as her. damn straight. smooth as silk.


Phantast ( ) posted Sun, 21 December 2003 at 9:44 AM

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It occurred to me that the recent free ballet leotard from runtime dna would make an excellent base for duplicating the costume shown above. Unfortunately it turns out to have a non-split UVmap, which makes doing transmaps a little bit more tricky, but by no means insuperable. About an hour's work resulted in the picture posted here.


ruckstr ( ) posted Sun, 21 December 2003 at 10:00 AM

Phantast, that's precisely what I'm looking for. Unfortunately, I have neither the skill nor the patience to attempt what you were able to produce. I'm clueless when it comes to creating transmaps. As for the photos of the full figured gal, I think I'll go ahead and delete them from this thread due to copyright. I never intended for model in the photo to become a subject of debate.


Phantast ( ) posted Sun, 21 December 2003 at 10:34 AM

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Here you go ruckstr - as long as you have the runtime dna leotard this will work.


ruckstr ( ) posted Sun, 21 December 2003 at 12:09 PM

My friend I'm very appreciative of your generousity, but again I have no clue what to do with it. No experience with transmaps whatsoever. Can you talk me through what to do?


PapaBlueMarlin ( ) posted Sun, 21 December 2003 at 4:33 PM

If you have the runtime dna leotard, go into your material settings and increase the transparency (dial settings) to 100%. Then in the lower right corner there is a button where you can load a transmap. When you exit the menu, it will appear as though the leotard is completely gone, but when you render the image the leotard will appear on the figure with the appropriate parts taken out.



Phantast ( ) posted Sun, 21 December 2003 at 4:58 PM

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... like this.


ruckstr ( ) posted Sun, 21 December 2003 at 10:50 PM

Got it. Thanks again all of you for your responses.


soulhuntre ( ) posted Mon, 22 December 2003 at 5:08 AM

Are you saying that she's not attractive to anyone?

Nope, that is why I used the term "preference". It means just that. If you take a broad sampling of the human population most of them will find a fairly consistent set of traits preferable in the opposite sex. As with all studies of trends and large scale population preferences this will allow for dramatic variationsin individual taste.

and by certain characteristics, you mean the ype of woman we see in magazines all the time these days? the "twiggy" type?

The currently popular figure is not, and never has been, the extremes of the fashion world. "Twiggy" was an extremely thing girl - she never made it to the status of pin up or sex symbol in general and her body shape bears no resemblance to those shapes generally considered "hot".

Much better indicators are to be found in pop music, non "high fashion" advertising and the like. Hell, the easiest way to find the trend these days is to look at MTV, the Victoria's catalog and movie "babes" in comedy films.

It has been only the rare fashion model who is also conventionally attractive and recognized as such. Though this is happening more and more as the fashion embraces the trim, healthy and athletic body type that has always been the general preference.

O_o! ever seen old painting of what men in the old days thought as beautiful? she would be one.. and a magazine from today would be the perfect example on how NOT to look..

There are many other factors to consider. For instance the great painters were no more representative of the general preference in their day as a fashion photographer is today. 500 years from now someone may decide we were all simply mad for "Twiggy" when in reality she never achieved mass appeal.

Add to that the need to please their patrons, and the secondary pressures in finding corpulent women attractive because for a short period it indicated a lack of disease and an ability to provide food (wealth) and you get aberrations like that... but it is just that, an aberration in a more common trend.

In general, the preferred "classical" shape has changed little... the Greek statues (male and female) would be right at home on MTV and in advertising. They are trim, athletic and in good health.

When you feed a human body correctly, work it till it achieves a good measure of it's potential and are free of most disease the human form ON AVERAGE takes on a fairly specific shape in it's prime. This shape is the one humans have (naturally) evolved to prefer.

You people who like skinny breakable women can keep 'em

Breakable? Hell, Gabby Reece (one of the hottest properties around for modeling in general) is an athlete that would break most men in a physical contest. Ana Kournikova could out run and perform most people she will ever meet. Britney (and the other pop types) generally do more physical work to get those bodies than the people who think they are fragile will do in their whole lives :)

Again, fashion model != popularly attractive "sex symbol" :)

Over the decades, the average weights of Miss America winners and Playboy centerfolds have gone down...but their proportions have remained the same.

Actually it has fluctuated. As they have lost body fact they have generally gained muscle as a group. I you look at the numbers (I only have them for playboy from 78-94 right now) you will see that the individual playmates vary quite a bit... as the proportions are the same this is usually a measure of muscle mass.

That "hourglass" shape seems to be what men find sexy, perhaps because it's produced by estrogen, and thus signals fertility. That woman may be heavy, but she's very shapely.

It is one trigger to be certain and it is one of the things that distinguishes her from the women it he painting (further indication what an aberrant time that was) however she does lose "points" in a number of other ways common to larger women who are still shapely. For instance her skin was rippled (what they call cellulite on TV) by fluctuation of the fat depositing  and smooth skin is also a trigger. The pull in at her waist was too dramatic (she has serious "back") and that throws off the normal preference for a smooth curve as a sign of youth. Nature is not so easily fooled :)

All in all your right, she does fairly well for her size though :)

"yet shes glorified as an ideal woman"

By who? Certainly she is popular enough but she isn't the sex symbol that her co-star Drew is, and Lucy Lu has them both beat for popularity if a quick 'net search is any indication. Of course Cameron will attract a following - she (liek the large woman above) hits certain triggers pretty hard (in Cameron's case it is the long legs, wide eyes and mouth and blond hair - a fairly extreme set of feminine traits facially).

Ah well, people are funny and nature is cold! Anyway, I suppose we have drifted off topic so I'll drop it :)

 

FYI - anyone interested and since I am the kind of weirdo who has this stuff handy...

Centerfold Data Averages 78-94

BUST

WAIST

HIPS

HT

WT

Raw

35.32 23.45 34.46 66.59 113.48 Adjusted

35.32 23.44 34.46 5' 6" 113.45(the raw data for all centerfolds in that time frame is on my blog)


randym77 ( ) posted Mon, 22 December 2003 at 6:16 AM

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"If you take a broad sampling of the human population most of them will find a fairly consistent set of traits preferable in the opposite sex."

Yes, but the only traits that seem truly universal are bilateral symmetry and smooth skin. Weight and shape has little to do with it. There's a lot of human variation when it comes to secondary sex characteristics...and it seems to be because there's a lot of variation in human taste in that area.

"Add to that the need to please their patrons, and the secondary pressures in finding corpulent women attractive because for a short period it indicated a lack of disease and an ability to provide food (wealth) and you get aberrations like that... but it is just that, an aberration in a more common trend."

Given human history, I'd say that the aberration is periods such as our own, when food is plentiful. See the neolithic "Venus of Willendorf," one of the earliest known depictions of the female form.

In ancient Hawaii, fat was definitely beautiful. Queen Liliuokalani weighed 300 pounds or more, and worked hard to keep her figure, getting special massages to help her eat more. Women tend to carry more fat than men - is it so surprising that some might tend to fix on this as something that separates men from women, and is thus sexy?

I mean, if you just look at the human variation that exists in the world today, much of it of ethnic derivation -- it's strong evidence that what you think are universal standards of beauty are not so universal. It's also not a coincidence that so much of this variation centers on secondary sexual characteristics: breast size and shape, buttock size and shape, patterns of body hair, genital size and shape, etc.

Remember the so-called "Hottentot Venus," whose steatopygia so fascinated European men? She was normal for her ethnic group. Similarly, Asian women tend to have smaller breasts and flatter butts than European women. Are Asian men just unlucky? No -- that's what they like, so that's what they got.

We're all the product of millennia of sexual selection. We all look the way we do because somewhere, somewhen, it was considered pretty hot, even if it no longer does.

That was brought home to me once when I met an Asian art professor. I'm of Japanese descent, but my family's been four generations in the U.S. (so don't ask me to translate any of those Japanese Poser sites - I haven't a clue ;-). She commented that physical traits I consider flaws now would have been considered quite beautiful in the days of "The Tale of Genji." For example, short legs were desirable, because they made such a elegant line when you were kneeling on the floor in Japanese fashion. My ears - long, flat against the head at the top, sticking out at the bottom - were considered the ideal, because they looked good with the hairstyles of the time. Unfortunately, they look awful with earrings. Darn, I could've been a knockout, a thousand years ago! ;-)


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