keep us posted... Is the horse "High" on the list????

Do you mean that you are subdividing them so that they have a higher polycount and regroup and rejoint them, or they will be new meshes? My personal favourite would be a photorealistic lion and tiger, so detailed that one could morph them into fantasy creature too. Is this something you are considering? Thanks in advance.

They are all new meshes - rethought from the ground up. The mesh layout and groupings of the P4 models was not very conducive to animation - these new models will be a dream to animate and will be higher rez for more morphing possibilities. All of the animals are currently being worked on - some are closer to completion than others. Next up is the Cubed Lion. This is going to knock your socks off- trust me! :') Followed by the Wolf, then the Raptor and horse. The order of the rest is still uncertain.

The horse should be at the top of the list. The horse would be used more often and in more situations. I would like the Lion(with lots of Morph), but would use it on limited occasions. The wolf ...maybe,I just purchased DAZ dog and it comes with wolf morphs, and the Raptor I would use it even less. Just my thoughts. Niles

This is fantastic and just beautiful, but if it follows the same pricing structure as the Babies, they won't be gracing my Poser libraries. I can see shelling out $50+(USD) for a humanoid that I'll use again and again, but animals are much more specialized and I can't justify the money. Again, gorgeous work.

Lookes great but like the babies much to expensive for me

How have you derived that it is too expensive?!?! I haven't mentioned any prices yet. BTW, If you haven't been following the babies thread - we will be offering the babies as separate products for 24.99 each as of tomorrow. The animals will be cheaper because it takes a lot less work to create them than it does a human figure.

BTW, we had planned on introducing the horses a little later because there are already a few horses on the market. There are no other lions, however. Once people realise that our products are of the highest quality, we will release the horse and even people that own another horse will want one because they know that it will be the best horse on the market. We need to build that reputation first.

I want it NOW!! Keep us posted, Thanks ;)

Thank you for clarifying that. When you said that you were remaking the Poser 4 content I misunderstood. If the lion is of the same quality of the baby than Im looking forward to it! Could you post a preview? Thanks again.

I went to the site I love the babies I see there are more options then a credit card (don't have one) Do I understand it right that paying with my regular Dutch bankaccount is also a option Chris? Sorry for my to expensive followed the babies treath but diddn't see that it will be cheaper from tommorrow and thought to read the dolphin will also be 49,99. It's not to expensive for the quality that's not what I meant but for me personal it's much money that's all

No one would buy a dolphin for that amount of money unless they had a specific use for it. Most people would buy a horse for that price (well, a Poser horse... a real one would be a tad more expensive...) but I think we will keep the price on all of the animals low to encourage everyone to buy them all. Yes dolfijntes, your Dutch bank account should be no problem. We are in Ireland but the merchant that handles our payments is RegNow in the US. However, they accept a very wide variety of payments. Sorry guys, no preview of the lion until we have a complete mesh ready for public viewing. It's in the early stages of revision at the moment but trust me - it actually looks like a lion! :')

As a buyer of your babies, I really look forward to your animals :)

Great! We love having customers, especially happy customers - especially happy repeat customers! We will be striving to release new products as quickly as we can while maintaining our high standards and our sanity. :') Chris

I vote for the horses. There have been several attempts to improve the Poser Horse and others, but a real good horse is something I essentially miss for a long time. All those fantasy, medieval and western scenes besides others are in bad need of good horses. Good posing abilities and a good UV map is essential. With P5 it should also be possible to give them a realistic texture. Count me in as a customer for your horse!

:Alla impatiently strumming her fingers: Please, please make a realistic lightweight riding horse, with poseable ears, eyes and a built in trans mapped mane and tail and I'll be first in line to buy it. Also a variety of different styles of tack, modern english, western, fantasy, horse racing....you get the idea g One with the usability of Bloodsong's Heavy Horse would be great, those extra neck joints and all the morphs really make the difference. Hopefully Alla :)

Mmmmmmm...sounds really interesting. I'll def keep my eyes out for these (esp the horse). Just as an aside..what about textures for the horses ?? I can see that a dolphin, lion, raptor..well..the one texture would prob suit most folks. But a horse..they need variety. What are the chances that many of the currently available textures would work? If we have to shell out more money for new horse textures..that may get folks to thinking if it's all worth it ? After all...many of us that currently like working with the horses that are ALREADY available (with their well -known shortcomings) have prob expended some cash on them. It may limit the take up of yet another horse, if we have to start collecting textures yet again.

Good gracious gopher guts, but we already have horses, lions, and dolphins. They could be improved a bit, but why not make something we do NOT have, but need? Where are the ferrets, badgers, ermines, weasels, groundhogs, hedgehogs, llamas, alpacas, hippos, (etc.)? I can more readily justify spending money on a badger or hedgehog than yet another horse (I own 4?). It is hard to do a jungle scene without hippopotomi and crocodiles, or an adventure in the Andes with no pack animals, or fairytales without talking animals, or westerns without prairie dogs. Packrats, gophers, weasels, and groundhogs are useful metaphors as well as adding to the reality of a scene. Frankly, I'm tired of rewarmed and rehashed figures. Carolly

See- here's our dilemma... It's the same problem we faced when deciding the spec for the Poser 5 default figures. On the one hand, we know that we can create a far superior model than any currently on the market but it needs to be a radically different design and setup than the previous versions. That would please people greatly. However, as freyfaxi pointed out - many people have invested in the previous models and want to protect their investment. With the Poser 5 figures, we tried to go halfway. We created the mesh and joints in a way that would function better than what was available but made them compatible with the Millennium figures joints (to a point...) and made the UV's compatible with them as well so Michael and Victoria textures could be used on them. All of this was more work than I feel it was worth. My gut instinct is to create all new figures that work as perfectly as possible and people will just have to buy new textures or adapt their own to suit our models. This way, we don't have to compromise our quality for the sake of being backwards compatible. Also, considering the fact that you have all been very vocal about the horse, I will move it up the list. Chris

freyfaxi, if its at all possible when the cubed horse comes out i could convert my current textures in the marketplace and do an update(addon). that way it will have additional textures and anyone who bought my texture set(s) might be interested more in buying the cubed horse. so looking forward to the new animals :D lol

"My personal favourite would be a photorealistic lion and tiger, so detailed that one could morph them into fantasy creature too." Me too staby

Yes, we plan on doing LOTS of different animals. However, we planned on first offering new versions of the Poser 4 animals since these were meant to be updated for Poser 5. Curious Labs told people that they were coming but they were never built in the end. This disappointed a lot of people. We decided to create the animals that should have been in Poser 5 but we are free to do however we like, so we are! After that, we will create a menagerie of other animals!

I think I'm going to wait and see what you guys come up with before buying any more DAZ animals! Since they are the one thing that I can use my "DAZ Original" $5 on each month, I have a bunch of them lined up in the wish list. However, these are all relatively old models from what I can tell, highly priced for starters and only affordable if you happen to be a Platinum Club member (which a lot of people aren't)! Their Walrus, for example, sells for $27.96. I got $8.39 off as a Platinum club member and my monthly $5 off on top of that. I ended up paying close to $15 for the Walrus at the end of it all. Is he worth it??? Well.......he's ok for an "extra" in a scene, but probably not as the "star" :) Up to now, I think VIP and noggin have some of the nicer animal "stars" :) A badger would be wonderful!! I think Noggin has a croc hauksdotter and VIP has a nice prarie dog!

Actually....that Walrus is on sale at $27.96. The regular price is $34.95!!

If you can overcome this major problem, I am really looking forward to buying new and improved animals. People are interesting, but animals make a scene.

I'd like a croc too...would work well in doing swampy type scenes.....I'm with Carolly. We need NEW & DIFFERENT animals that no one has done yet... Thanks

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Tygercub, Fear not - all of our animals are anotomically correct - right down to the muscle structure - if we have the anatomy reference (which is hard to come by for certain animals.) Not only will they look correct, they will move and animate correctly. We are spending a lot of time trying to figure out solutions to difficult problems that arrise due to the way Poser handles bending - for example, the way a lions shoulder blades move when walking. I'm going to be out of town all weekend so don't take my silence for ignoring you. I'll visit again on Monday. Bye for now! Chris

Not just lions! Most animals have vertical shoulder blades. Only we brachiaters (I think that's the word for tree-swinging ape-types) have flat shoulder blades. You guys made the Sea Serpent, right? I'll look forward to what else you make, then... but really hope for animals we don't already have. Carolly

Carolly...I think we should start an animals wanted list ;) I can name so many right away that I "need" to make a "realistic" scene.

Ferret! Ferret! Ferret!

Llama ! Llama! Llama !! :)

ChrisD, thanks for all of the hard work by your company and yourself. I appreciate your thoughtfulness in posting your progress reports. Keep up the good work. I'm looking forward to seeing your future products :)

Attached Link: http://www.cubed.ie

I know this thread is sorta dead atm... but I just wanted to voice the fact that I'm looking for someone else to produce figure models for Poser - and who is supporting P5 (which obviously Cubed will). This goes for Human as well as Animal and Clothing models (and textures). If your models are great - trust me, I'll buy them. Basically, if I don't have to go to Daz to get a Poser model that I like the look of... (and which works, unlike that goddarned horse with its bowlegged cannons and the fold-up neck and the diabolical mane...) If it's there and available... I'll grab it. So will many others, I'm sure. By now I have a feeling that if there is a valid alternative to Daz Figures... people will get them just to get away from Daz. This feels a bit like MS / Linux LOL So get cracking! Chop chop!! Silke

I'd pay decent money for a good horse

I too would very much like a good horse, and would be willing to pay for it. "Help me, Obi-wan Kenobi. You're my only hope." ;)

Make that 3!

Is there a line? :)

I, too, think giving the horse priority would be a good idea. And please make its mane and tail conforming! It'd be so fun to see add-on packs with different mane styles (wild and windblown, plaited up for show, etc)---I still can't believe DAZ squandered such a golden opportunity to sell add-ons... Although myself, I'd be most in ecstasy over a fox. ^_~

Attached Link: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.j.bowman/animations/croc_swim_test_4_compressed.avi

Hi all, I'll have some more info on our animal plans in about 2 weeks - please bear with us until then. Chris

Sorry, can't. Don't have a good bear model :( Unless a toon bear will do? Cheers, Cliff (ta for the heads up)

Hmmmmmmm...I'd like to sound a note of caution here. I'm sure the folks at CUBED have been following the saga of the MIlHorse at DAZ and seen just how much PASSION has been expended by folks who weren't totally impressed by the MIL Horse. As much as I would just love to see another horse model, I just hope CUBED have done all their homework so they don't fall into the same pit as DAZ has. I know lots of folks want another horse..but please, don't rush it into production just to satisfy the demand..at least, not until it's RIGHT ! Maybe DAZ goofed by trying to create a 'Universal' - "One Size Fits All" creature. I think folks would be happy just to have a GOOD, well conformed 'Average' Horse of a non-specific breed as a starting point.